Poor "picked on" Joe the Plumber

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This guy is SO fair game; he didn't just "innocently ask a question" as the right keeps whining. He has inserted himself into the election & the political process, and as such, is subject to all of the scrutiny and attention that anyone in that realm gets; he's even mulling a bid for Congress now.

“When I was face to face with him, my honest first impression was that I expected something more,” wrote Wurzelbacher, in response to a question from “Thomasville, AL.” “I had heard so much about ‘his presence’ in the media that I was surprised to find that he seemed very average. My gut feeling as he answered my questions? I was scared for America.”

“What worries me is that he is deciding that $250k is rich right now, but what's to stop him from changing his mind? As we all know, politicians change their minds at the drop of a poll. Personally, I think it will have to go lower. How else will he pay for all he wants big government to do?”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/joe-the-plumb-1.html
 
Cannibal?

The guy made all kinds appearnce appointments right after he asked this question and MCCAIN mentioned him a million times in the debate. Then when the media looked at his life it turned out his anme wasnt Joe , he wasnt a plummer, he wasnt about to buy the business, it didnt make 250,000 profit a year.

He lied you idiot just like the crazy little girl who scratched a backwards B on her face.

When you ask a candidate a question in front of a camera and then the opponent bases his whole floundering campaign on that one question you better make sure hter is a little truth involved or it may backfire.
 
amazing, the dems are supposed to be for the 'common man' but will turn cannibal in an instant when they get outed by one.

Part of being for the "common man" entails not letting a clear McCain surrogate misrepresent himself in order to spread lies about Obama's tax plans, which are much better for the common man than McCain's.

Quit your whining.
 
“I had heard so much about ‘his presence’ in the media that I was surprised to find that he seemed very average. My gut feeling as he answered my questions? I was scared for America.”
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Ah, yes. I judge presidential candidates by their surrounding aura also.
 
When has 250K NOT been fucking rich?

What's going to be the next "not rich"? A million dollars?

To make $250k for a year or two does not make one rich. To a 19 year old in Mississippi yeah $250k seems rich. To someone in San Francisco where to afford the median home price one must make $178k annually $250k does not qualify one as rich.
 
When has 250K NOT been fucking rich?

What's going to be the next "not rich"? A million dollars?

I'm 36. When I was young I envisioned what my million dollar house would be like when I was older and it was a mansion. Today $1 million gets you a two bed/two bath condo. Nothing like I dreamed about.
 
waterturd burn
but I guess obama is saying suck it frisco middle class.
At least u friscans have access to some bad ass herb.
 
I find it humorous, hilarious even, that your boy got made about wealth redistribution (socialism) and instead of trying to repudiate THAT, you go after the messenger, even if he set you up. Anything to throw off the hounds of the socialist track.
 
the Nazi run is over, even socialism would be better than the dry ass ducking the republicans gave the public.
 
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Obama Supporter Thugs At Work. Do not dare ask questions directly to the messiah, otherwise face the wrath of having your life turned inside out.


Government computers used to find information on Joe the Plumber
Investigators trying to determine whether access was illegal
Friday, October 24, 2008 8:57 PM
By Randy Ludlow
The Columbus Dispatch

"State and local officials are investigating if state and law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they were tapped for personal information about "Joe the Plumber."

Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher became part of the national political lexicon Oct. 15 when Republican presidential candidate John McCain mentioned him frequently during his final debate with Democrat Barack Obama.

The 34-year-old from the Toledo suburb of Holland is held out by McCain as an example of an American who would be harmed by Obama's tax proposals.

Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher's driver's license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate.

Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.

It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver's license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.

Paul Lindsay, Ohio spokesman for the McCain campaign, attempted to portray the inquiries as politically motivated. "It's outrageous to see how quickly Barack Obama's allies would abuse government power in an attempt to smear a private citizen who dared to ask a legitimate question," he said.

Isaac Baker, Obama's Ohio spokesman, denounced Lindsay's statement as charges of desperation from a campaign running out of time. "Invasions of privacy should not be tolerated. If these records were accessed inappropriately, it had nothing to do with our campaign and should be investigated fully," he said.

The attorney general's office is investigating if the access of Wuzelbacher's BMV information through the office's Ohio Law Enforcement Gateway computer system was unauthorized, said spokeswoman Jennifer Brindisi.

"We're trying to pinpoint where it came from," she said. The investigation could become "criminal in nature," she said. Brindisi would not identify the account that pulled the information on Oct. 16.

Records show it was a "test account" assigned to the information technology section of the attorney general's office, said Department of Public Safety spokesman Thomas Hunter.

Brindisi later said investigators have confirmed that Wurzelbacher's information was not accessed within the attorney general's office. She declined to provide details. The office's test accounts are shared with and used by other law enforcement-related agencies, she said.

On Oct. 17, BMV information on Wurzelbacher was obtained through an account used by the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency in Cleveland, records show.

Mary Denihan, spokeswoman for the county agency, said the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services contacted the agency today and requested an investigation of the access to Wurzelbacher's information. Cuyahoga County court records do not show any child-support cases involving Wurzelbacher.

The State Highway Patrol, which administers the Law Enforcement Automated Data System in Ohio, asked Toledo police to explain why it pulled BMV information on Wurzelbacher within 48 hours of the debate, Hunter said.

The LEADS system also can be used to check for warrants and criminal histories, but such checks would not be reflected on the records obtained by The Dispatch.

Sgt. Tim Campbell, a Toledo police spokesman, said he could not provide any information because the department only had learned of the State Highway Patrol inquiry today.
 
To make $250k for a year or two does not make one rich. To a 19 year old in Mississippi yeah $250k seems rich. To someone in San Francisco where to afford the median home price one must make $178k annually $250k does not qualify one as rich.

You are rich if you make 178k a year. I'm sure millionares don't consider themselves rich either. But you are simply being delusional if you think you experience anything close to what the average American does.
 
Only the rich, young and/or dumb live in the city. The rest live in the outlying areas and a 2 br condo can be had for far less than a million there, ca.
 
250 k a year makes you rich in SF. Not as rich as it would in Tampa, but you'd have to be pretty bad with your money not to be doing very very well on that in SF. If you choose to spend it on a home in the city, where the rich people live, that does not make you poor.
 
250 k a year makes you rich in SF. Not as rich as it would in Tampa, but you'd have to be pretty bad with your money not to be doing very very well on that in SF. If you choose to spend it on a home in the city, where the rich people live, that does not make you poor.

it don't make you rich. I have friends that have made $250k one year and less than $100k the next. That by no means makes them poor or struggling but it sure don't make them rich.
 
Only the rich, young and/or dumb live in the city. The rest live in the outlying areas and a 2 br condo can be had for far less than a million there, ca.

if you want to live in Burlingame, San Mateo, Hillsborough, Atherton, Menlo Park, Marin, Piedmont, Morga, Orinda etc. you are paying out the ass for housing.
 
We are not talking about 100k a year or even a 175k a year (avg in your example). You said 250k a year does not make one rich. Rich is really more about wealth to me than income, but if you are making 250k a year you should be amassing some considerable wealth.

And the person in your example apparently would pay less under Obama, if reports are accurate.
 
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