Neoclitorus
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the president has power over trade deals.
keeping jobs is a national interest.
what's confusing you?
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keeping jobs is a national interest.
what's confusing you?
Scott
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You live in the same physical world.Rest assured, I live in the same world you do. I suspect that our reading material is different though. Tell me, did you read the article I used to back up my point? You know, this one:
‘Parents Have Waited for 30 Years’: NIH to Study Causes of Autism
According to The Washington Post, the NIH is still finalizing plans for the new multimillion-dollar research program. “We will leave no stone unturned in our mission to figure out what exactly is happening,” an HHS spokesperson said. HHS oversees the NIH.childrenshealthdefense.org
Are you implying that we live in another one at the same time?
No, it means that RFK Jr., who is currently the Secretary of Health and Human Services, has decided that it's a disease that's worthy of study.
Do you know why RFK Jr. decided that the causes of autism deserved special attention? I think the article I linked to in the post you're responding to gives some good clues:
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An HHS spokesperson said:
“As President Trump said in his joint address to Congress, the rate of autism in American children has skyrocketed. We will leave no stone unturned in our mission to figure out what exactly is happening. The American people expect high-quality research and transparency and that is what we are delivering.”
[snip]
In a proclamation issued April 2 for World Autism Awareness Day — as part of World Autism Month — Trump said his administration “is prioritizing gold-standard research and increasing transparency to gain new insights to aid those with ASD” — or autism spectrum disorder.
In a post on X, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that Trump directed him “to address and find out what is causing the autism epidemic and what we can do about it.”
The proclamation also referred to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showing that 1 in 36 U.S. children are diagnosed with autism — “a staggering increase from the 1980s, when the disorder was found in only 1 to 4 out of every 10,000 individuals.”
“Autism is an epidemic of unknown cause, increasing exponentially in the American population — the incidence rate doubling every 10 years,” said Karl Jablonowski, Ph.D., senior research scientist for Children’s Health Defense (CHD). “If you do not know the cause, you cannot avoid autism.”
According to the proclamation, efforts to identify what’s causing the increase form part of the administration’s Make America Healthy Again — or MAHA — agenda.
The MAHA Commission, launched in February, will “investigate and address the root causes of our escalating health crisis, with a focus on childhood disorders like autism.” Following Trump’s congressional speech, his administration asked the CDC to study the possible link between vaccines and autism.
“There’s something wrong,” Trump told Congress. “So, we’re going to find out what it is, and there’s nobody better than Bobby [Kennedy] and all of the people that are working with you.”
Research scientist and author James Lyons-Weiler, Ph.D., called the NIH’s new initiative “overdue.”
“Finally, a forward-facing NIH that isn’t afraid of difficult questions,” Lyons-Weiler said. “The Biden administration spent years pretending the science was settled. Now, under new leadership, NIH appears poised to embrace actual science — defined by open questions, not manufactured consensus.”
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Source:
‘Parents Have Waited for 30 Years’: NIH to Study Causes of Autism
According to The Washington Post, the NIH is still finalizing plans for the new multimillion-dollar research program. “We will leave no stone unturned in our mission to figure out what exactly is happening,” an HHS spokesperson said. HHS oversees the NIH.
childrenshealthdefense.org
Scott
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fuck your globalist idiocy and bullshit.If only it were so simple. The fact of the matter, though, is that there are real serious problems with Trump's new system. Some people here have made some threads on it. Here's one:
Politics
'Due process does look different': DHS official defends deportation of Maryland man
By Luke Garrett
Published April 7, 2025 at 11:03 AM PDT...
Articles such as these also show that this doesn't just apply to people coming from south of the U.S. border:
New Canada Travel Advisory For The U.S. Effective April 4
New Canada travel advisory for the U.S. is now in effect. Expect border scrutiny, device searches, and possible detention.immigrationnewscanada.ca
Insulting someone when you disagree with them is hardly the way to promote productive discussions.
Scott
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I don't consider this to be a problem. Dire times require dire measures.If only it were so simple. The fact of the matter, though, is that there are real serious problems with Trump's new system. Some people here have made some threads on it. Here's one:
Politics
'Due process does look different': DHS official defends deportation of Maryland man
By Luke Garrett
Published April 7, 2025 at 11:03 AM PDT...
Articles such as these also show that this doesn't just apply to people coming from south of the U.S. border:
New Canada Travel Advisory For The U.S. Effective April 4
New Canada travel advisory for the U.S. is now in effect. Expect border scrutiny, device searches, and possible detention.
I agree that dire times require dire measures, but that doesn't mean that any dire measure will do. There are many times when certain dire measures actually make things worse- I definitely think that this is such a case.
Scott
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So if someone called you a "fucking moron...a nut-case", you would consider the insult refined or something along those lines?
Scott
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True according to who?
Scott
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Are they? I decided to see what family members of his have said about him. While I did find 3 family members who were against his stance on vaccination, they certainly didn't say that he was "an insult to his family". Here's what they -actually- said, according to an article written by the aforementioned 3 Kennedy family members:
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We love Bobby. He is one of the great champions of the environment. His work to clean up the Hudson River and his tireless advocacy against multinational organizations who have polluted our waterways and endangered families has positively affected the lives of countless Americans. We stand behind him in his ongoing fight to protect our environment. However, on vaccines he is wrong.
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Source:
Scott
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I'm younger than you are, 49, but since I started posting in internet forums at around 19, I still have around the same amount of time posting in forums as you
. In any case, I fully agree that posters rarely change their views on major issues. That being said, of the changes I have seen, I've found that trying to reason with posters has always worked better than insulting their beliefs and the people they admire.
Neoclitorus
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Neoclitorus
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Good arguments combined with insults is the true best approach, ass-wrinkle.I'm younger than you are, 49, but since I started posting in internet forums at around 19, I still have around the same amount of time posting in forums as you
Neoclitorus
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there's no problem with trumps new system, cornhole minister.
Not at all. I would consider it standard Internet talk.
I'd laugh about it...probably brag to my golf buddies the next day.
According to me and to many of my fellow countrymen. And to most of his family. Thought I made that clear.
Okay.
Have you?I'm younger than you are, 49, but since I started posting in internet forums at around 19, I still have around the same amount of time posting in forums as you
Okay.
ZenMode
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Yes. Not a different physical world, obviously.
"Do you know why RFK Jr. decided that the causes of autism deserved special attention?"No, it means that RFK Jr., who is currently the Secretary of Health and Human Services, has decided that it's a disease that's worthy of study.
Do you know why RFK Jr. decided that the causes of autism deserved special attention? I think the article I linked to in the post you're responding to gives some good clues:
**
An HHS spokesperson said:
“As President Trump said in his joint address to Congress, the rate of autism in American children has skyrocketed. We will leave no stone unturned in our mission to figure out what exactly is happening. The American people expect high-quality research and transparency and that is what we are delivering.”
[snip]
In a proclamation issued April 2 for World Autism Awareness Day — as part of World Autism Month — Trump said his administration “is prioritizing gold-standard research and increasing transparency to gain new insights to aid those with ASD” — or autism spectrum disorder.
In a post on X, HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that Trump directed him “to address and find out what is causing the autism epidemic and what we can do about it.”
The proclamation also referred to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) showing that 1 in 36 U.S. children are diagnosed with autism — “a staggering increase from the 1980s, when the disorder was found in only 1 to 4 out of every 10,000 individuals.”
“Autism is an epidemic of unknown cause, increasing exponentially in the American population — the incidence rate doubling every 10 years,” said Karl Jablonowski, Ph.D., senior research scientist for Children’s Health Defense (CHD). “If you do not know the cause, you cannot avoid autism.”
According to the proclamation, efforts to identify what’s causing the increase form part of the administration’s Make America Healthy Again — or MAHA — agenda.
The MAHA Commission, launched in February, will “investigate and address the root causes of our escalating health crisis, with a focus on childhood disorders like autism.” Following Trump’s congressional speech, his administration asked the CDC to study the possible link between vaccines and autism.
“There’s something wrong,” Trump told Congress. “So, we’re going to find out what it is, and there’s nobody better than Bobby [Kennedy] and all of the people that are working with you.”
Research scientist and author James Lyons-Weiler, Ph.D., called the NIH’s new initiative “overdue.”
“Finally, a forward-facing NIH that isn’t afraid of difficult questions,” Lyons-Weiler said. “The Biden administration spent years pretending the science was settled. Now, under new leadership, NIH appears poised to embrace actual science — defined by open questions, not manufactured consensus.”
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Source:
‘Parents Have Waited for 30 Years’: NIH to Study Causes of Autism
According to The Washington Post, the NIH is still finalizing plans for the new multimillion-dollar research program. “We will leave no stone unturned in our mission to figure out what exactly is happening,” an HHS spokesperson said. HHS oversees the NIH.
Because he is still trying to show that vaccines cause autism, despite the fact that the topic has already been studied and no connection found:
Here is how we know that vaccines do not cause autism
Vaccines do not cause autism. You’ve almost certainly read that before — but often without a full explanation of how we know it to be true. Here's how we know.
www.statnews.com
Scott
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Scott
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Scott
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Well, as I posted later, I've seen no evidence that any of his family has considered him to be either of the epithets you've used on RFK Jr. I did find an article that 3 of them consider him to be mistaken on vaccines- I'll get into that in replies to your other posts.
Scott
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Because he is still trying to show that vaccines cause autism, despite the fact that the topic has already been studied and no connection found:
Here is how we know that vaccines do not cause autism
Vaccines do not cause autism. You’ve almost certainly read that before — but often without a full explanation of how we know it to be true. Here's how we know.
I'm not sure if he's ever said he is -sure- that vaccines can cause autism. Note that I added the word can here. I have heard of no one argue that vaccines are the -sole- cause of autism. Anyway, a paywalled article that cuts off in the middle of the third paragraph is hardly a persuasive argument that they don't cause autism. As to the study that the CDC plans on conducting, I haven't actually seen any evidence that they have already come to any conclusions as to what all the causes of autism are. Here's what an Associated Press article had to say about it on March 9th:
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Kennedy’s anti-vaccine views have drawn concern among some Republicans. During Kennedy’s confirmation hearing Senator Bill Cassidy, a Louisiana Republican and physician, suggested that the nominee disavow any links between vaccines and autism.
Kennedy denied that he was anti-vaccine, but did not acknowledge that such a link had been debunked.
This week Cassidy questioned Trump’s nominee to lead the National Institutes of Health, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, over his stance on investigating a potential link between autism and childhood vaccinations.
"I don't generally believe there is a link, based on my reading of the literature," Bhattacharya said. "But we do have a sharp rise in autism rates, and I don't think any scientist really knows the cause of it. I would support a broad scientific agenda based on data to get an answer to that."
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Source:
So, how about we see what the study finds?