Religion causes war.

Truth Detector said:
That isn't something condoned or preached by the Church you willful retard on steroids. You don't impugn an entire religion, police force, Government etc. for the acts of a few lunatics.

That would be like using you as an example of how fucked up and lunatic the human race is. :laugh:
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the entire church structure knew about it

how did their religion keep them from molesting children?
 
Grugore said:
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?
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Religion didn't stop any of those mass murderers,
 
Truth Detector said:
It is only religion that provides a small deterrent to a higher level of human depravity in my opinion. Imagine man without religion. Rome, feeding people to lions for sport. Liberals!
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A Godless culture is to be feared more than any thing on Earth. Imagine a car, running towards a cliff, with a stuck gas pedal and no brakes, and the doors welded shut. God is the glue that holds society together.
 
evince said:
the entire church structure knew about it

how did their religion keep them from molesting children?
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Lunatic translation:
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Grugore said:
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?
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No, none of that is mutually exclusive to religious based slaughter. Nothing to question other than your ignorance.
 
Grugore said:
I hear this a lot. Well, let's dig a little deeper and see if this is true.

Joseph Stalin: over 42 million killed
Mao Zedong: over 37 million killed
Adolf Hitler: almost 21 million killed
Chiang Kai-Shek: over 10 million killed
Vladimir Lenin: 4 million killed
Hideki tojo: 4 million killed
Pol Pot: over 2 million killed.

All of these wars were the result of non-religious dictators, with over 100 million people killed. Many of them murdered and not just war casualities.

Any questions?
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really? stalin was brought up a christer and attended the seminary

Stalin as a Theological Student

https://politicaltheology.com/stalin-as-a-theological-student/

hiltler: To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and forever bar yourself from understanding the source of German anti-Semitism and how the WWII atrocities occurred.

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther.

And subhuman goyim filth such as yourself are becoming smaller and smaller in the world, good riddance
 
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Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. (The German Christian Social movement, remarkably, resembles the Christian Right movement in America today.)

Many have questioned Hitler's stand on Christianity. Although he fought against certain Catholic priests who opposed him for political reasons, his belief in God and country never left him. Many Christians throughout history have opposed Christian priests for various reasons; this does not necessarily make one against one's own Christian beliefs. Nor did the Vatican's Pope & bishops ever disown him; in fact they blessed him! As evidence to his claimed Christianity, he said:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders.

How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

https://www.nobeliefs.com/hitler.htm
 
The population of Germany in 1933 was around 60 million. Almost all Germans were Christian, belonging either to the Roman Catholic (ca. 20 million members) or the Protestant (ca. 40 million members) churches. The Jewish community in Germany in 1933 was less than 1% of the total population of the country.

How did Christians and their churches in Germany respond to the Nazi regime and its laws, particularly to the persecution of the Jews? The racialized anti-Jewish Nazi ideology converged with antisemitism that was historically widespread throughout Europe at the time and had deep roots in Christian history. For all too many Christians, traditional interpretations of religious scriptures seemed to support these prejudices.

The attitudes and actions of German Catholics and Protestants during the Nazi era were shaped not only by their religious beliefs, but by other factors as well, including: Protestant Churches in Nazi Germany
The largest Protestant church in Germany in the 1930s was the German Evangelical Church, comprised of 28 regional churches or Landeskirchen that included the three major theological traditions that had emerged from the Reformation: Lutheran, Reformed, and United. Most of Germany's 40 million Protestants were members of this church, although there were smaller so-called "free" Protestant churches, such as Methodist and Baptist churches.

Historically the German Evangelical Church viewed itself as one of the pillars of German culture and society, with a theologically grounded tradition of loyalty to the state. During the 1920s, a movement emerged within the German Evangelical Church called the Deutsche Christen, or "German Christians." The "German Christians" embraced many of the nationalistic and racial aspects of Nazi ideology. Once the Nazis came to power, this group sought the creation of a national "Reich Church" and supported a "nazified" version of Christianity.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-german-churches-and-the-nazi-state
 
Grugore said:
A Godless culture is to be feared more than any thing on Earth. Imagine a car, running towards a cliff, with a stuck gas pedal and no brakes, and the doors welded shut. God is the glue that holds society together.
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The Crusades lasted almost 200 years, from 1095 to 1291. The initial spark came from Pope Urban II, who urged Christians to recapture the Holy Land (and especially the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem) from Muslim rule. Like the promise of eternal life given to Muslim martyrs, Crusaders were promised absolution from sin and eternal glory. Militarily, the Crusades were at first successful, capturing Jerusalem in 1099, but eventually a disaster; Jersualem fell in 1187. Successive Crusades set far more modest goals, but eventually failed to achieve even them. The last Crusader-ruled city in the Holy Land, Acre, fell in 1291.

Along the way, the Crusaders massacred. To take but one example, the Rhineland Massacres of 1096 are remembered to this day as some of the most horrific examples of anti-Semitic violence prior to the Holocaust. (Why go to the Holy Land to fight nonbelievers, many wondered, when they live right among us?) The Jewish communities of Cologne, Speyer, Worms, and Mainz were decimated. There were more than 5,000 victims. And that was only one example.

Tens of thousands of people (both soldiers and civilians) were killed in the conquest of Jerusalem. The Crusaders themselves suffered; historians estimate that only one in 20 survived to even reach the Holy Land. It is estimated that 1.7 million people died in total.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...60b1144cbc1_story.html?utm_term=.50dfb5298797
 
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