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SF, so clear this up, when you made this post, you were just trying to show me what it feels like to be you? But you already knew that churches were originally exempt from this?
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Awesome.

So Darla, clear this up, when you made your posts, you were just bitter?

Maybe you should be fit for one of those special helmets???

Or are you going to read what I am actually writing???

I was stating that you didn't like others telling you what you said or thought... yet you continue to tell us 'menz' that we are just 'hatin' on women' because we disagree with your position.

It is fucking ignorant of you to continue projecting your animosity onto others. The church has a right to run its organization and its businesses in a manner that adheres to their moral code. They HAVE THAT RIGHT. That right does not violate any right of yours. Period. Because no one is forcing you to work for them, no one is forcing you to abstain from using birth control, no one is preventing you from buying birth control on your own. The Dems are just trying to stir up hate and are obviously doing a good job with their whole 'Reps are attacking women' line of bullshit. Obviously some very weak minded liberals are falling for that... which isn't really all that shocking.
 
So Darla, clear this up, when you made your posts, you were just bitter?

Maybe you should be fit for one of those special helmets???

Or are you going to read what I am actually writing???

I was stating that you didn't like others telling you what you said or thought... yet you continue to tell us 'menz' that we are just 'hatin' on women' because we disagree with your position.

It is fucking ignorant of you to continue projecting your animosity onto others. The church has a right to run its organization and its businesses in a manner that adheres to their moral code. They HAVE THAT RIGHT. That right does not violate any right of yours. Period. Because no one is forcing you to work for them, no one is forcing you to abstain from using birth control, no one is preventing you from buying birth control on your own. The Dems are just trying to stir up hate and are obviously doing a good job with their whole 'Reps are attacking women' line of bullshit. Obviously some very weak minded liberals are falling for that... which isn't really all that shocking.


Actually, they don't HAVE THAT RIGHT. Just ask Justice Scalia.
 
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As far as the Catholic Church goes, since Damo insists on talking about them, of course they are against birth control! Did you know that medical plans in most Catholic institutions cover viagra? Do you know why?

cause when you are fucking little boys in the butt, you don't need birth control... but viagra comes in handy.

Ah look, the one truly full of hate is quite evident in the above. Just say you hate Catholics and that they should bow down to your views and be done with it.

Now you go and project the actions of a minority of Catholic priests (which was obviously abhorrent) and the cover up (again done by a very small minority of the Catholic faithful) onto all Catholics?

FYI... there are many drugs the Catholic church covers. You do realize the difference between Viagra and birth control? One aides in procreation, the other prevents. I wonder which the Catholic church is against... but no... you want to make it about men vs. women.
 
As I said, churches were exempt from the start, and the religious institutions that weren't, like hospitals and universities, were later dealt with under a compromise based on what is known as the hawaii solution.

The Blunt Amendment was about all employers.

I do not know what is difficult about this.

If Bishops still aren't happy it's because the Catholic Church is and always has been hostile to women, and to their sexuality. I don't give a flying fuck who doesn't like the facts. You can't say that because SF or you are going to have a hissy fit? FUCK YOU.

God forbid Planned Parenthood had 1 tiny little half of a percent of the crime that the catholic church had. You sick bastards put Acorn out of business because of one employee and one highly edited video tape. Yet you march on here and shrilly scream that I must respect the Catholic Church! The Catholic Church should be indicted, and you want them having veto power over my health care...but not yours.

All of that high hypocrisy aside: Churches were always exempt. Bishops cried anyway. A compromise based on the Hawaii solution was reached.

Are we done here yet? Or do I have to deal with every two-incher in this country (outside of the church head cases who, as stated above, and ONE HUNDRED OTHER TIMES, were already either exempt from the get-go, or fall under the hawaii compromise) who discovers a "moral objection" to one of his employees fucking someone who isn't him?

You are angrily building a straw man.

First I don't believe you would choose to go to a school run by the church, nor work for any entity that was run by them as you are fully aware of their beliefs and thus limitations you seem to find objectionable; nor do I believe they do or should have the power to stop you from obtaining birth control, only that they cannot be forced to provide it for others as it is against a basic precept of their religion and easily obtainable by other means.

No church should have the "veto power" over your contraception, I would fight that as vehemently as I would fight for their right to follow their own beliefs, however silly I may find them.
 
So Darla, clear this up, when you made your posts, you were just bitter?

Maybe you should be fit for one of those special helmets???

Or are you going to read what I am actually writing???

I was stating that you didn't like others telling you what you said or thought... yet you continue to tell us 'menz' that we are just 'hatin' on women' because we disagree with your position.

It is fucking ignorant of you to continue projecting your animosity onto others. The church has a right to run its organization and its businesses in a manner that adheres to their moral code. They HAVE THAT RIGHT. That right does not violate any right of yours. Period. Because no one is forcing you to work for them, no one is forcing you to abstain from using birth control, no one is preventing you from buying birth control on your own. The Dems are just trying to stir up hate and are obviously doing a good job with their whole 'Reps are attacking women' line of bullshit. Obviously some very weak minded liberals are falling for that... which isn't really all that shocking.

Okay, so you weren't playing dumb earlier.

You don't understand that the churches themselves were exempt all along. There's nothing I can do about this demonstrated inability to read here.

As for the sustained assault against women coming from the Republican party...it doesn't require your "belief". I don't care about your mansplainin why these policies really aren't hostile to women. I am a woman. I'll decide that for myself, as will all other women. We will see how you make out with independent suburban women on this. So far, it don't look good for you. :(
 
As I said, churches were exempt from the start, and the religious institutions that weren't, like hospitals and universities, were later dealt with under a compromise based on what is known as the hawaii solution.

The Blunt Amendment was about all employers.

I do not know what is difficult about this.

If Bishops still aren't happy it's because the Catholic Church is and always has been hostile to women, and to their sexuality. I don't give a flying fuck who doesn't like the facts. You can't say that because SF or you are going to have a hissy fit? FUCK YOU.

God forbid Planned Parenthood had 1 tiny little half of a percent of the crime that the catholic church had. You sick bastards put Acorn out of business because of one employee and one highly edited video tape. Yet you march on here and shrilly scream that I must respect the Catholic Church! The Catholic Church should be indicted, and you want them having veto power over my health care...but not yours.

All of that high hypocrisy aside: Churches were always exempt. Bishops cried anyway. A compromise based on the Hawaii solution was reached.

Are we done here yet? Or do I have to deal with every two-incher in this country (outside of the church head cases who, as stated above, and ONE HUNDRED OTHER TIMES, were already either exempt from the get-go, or fall under the hawaii compromise) who discovers a "moral objection" to one of his employees fucking someone who isn't him?

Such hatred for the Catholic Church. You are right that the pedophiles should have been kicked out of the Priesthood and handed over to the cops. The cover up was atrocious. That said, your pathetic 'you want them to have control over my health care' is nothing short of absurd. Do you work for the Catholic church? Do you work for an organization run by one? No, you do not.

But YOUR employees... what do YOU allow in your health care plan for your employees? Or do you even provide one for them?
 
You are building a straw man.

First I don't believe you would choose to go to a school run by the church, nor work for any entity that was run by them as you are fully aware of their beliefs and thus limitations, nor do I believe they do or should have the power to stop you from obtaining birth control, only that they cannot be forced to provide it for others as it is against a basic precept of their religion.

No church should have the "veto power" over your contraception, I would fight that as vehemently as I would fight for their right to follow their own beliefs, however silly I may find them.

I believe your posts state otherwise, but it's irrelevant. Why is it irrelevant? You know, the really advanced students can answer this question now before I post the answer, because I've posted it 102 times previously. However, for the kids who get here on the short bus. It is irrelevant because:

Churches were always exempt. Religious organizations such as hospitals and universities were addressed in the compromise Obama reached which is based on the "hawaii compromise".

Okay, how are we doing now? Are we there yet?
 
Such hatred for the Catholic Church. You are right that the pedophiles should have been kicked out of the Priesthood and handed over to the cops. The cover up was atrocious. That said, your pathetic 'you want them to have control over my health care' is nothing short of absurd. Do you work for the Catholic church? Do you work for an organization run by one? No, you do not.

But YOUR employees... what do YOU allow in your health care plan for your employees? Or do you even provide one for them?

That said????

The cover up still goes on. That said? LOL

Our insurance covers birth control, of course. Most insurance policies do. It only became controversial when the Republican party decided to wage an assault against women.
 
Okay, so you weren't playing dumb earlier.

You don't understand that the churches themselves were exempt all along. There's nothing I can do about this demonstrated inability to read here.

As for the sustained assault against women coming from the Republican party...it doesn't require your "belief". I don't care about your mansplainin why these policies really aren't hostile to women. I am a woman. I'll decide that for myself, as will all other women. We will see how you make out with independent suburban women on this. So far, it don't look good for you. :(

LMAO... I don't care about your nonsensical womansplannin either.

As for the exemptions... clearly you are incapable of comprehending what was written, so you are going to stick to your nonsense about my 'not understanding'. Seriously, get that special helmet fitted... you are going to need it.

Side note... I am not running for any office.
 
I believe your posts state otherwise, but it's irrelevant. Why is it irrelevant? You know, the really advanced students can answer this question now before I post the answer, because I've posted it 102 times previously. However, for the kids who get here on the short bus. It is irrelevant because:

Churches were always exempt. Religious organizations such as hospitals and universities were addressed in the compromise Obama reached which is based on the "hawaii compromise".

Okay, how are we doing now? Are we there yet?

Which is irrelevant to the wholly intellectual argument as to why the church objected, and whether it was an attempt by the Administration to circumvent their First Amendment rights through force.

I don't personally object to the "hawaii compromise"... but then I don't find it morally objectionable to tell a woman where to get contraceptives, even the so-called "abortion pill"... Has the church continued to object? Yes, because the compromise forces them to act against their belief system.
 
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That said????

The cover up still goes on. That said? LOL

Our insurance covers birth control, of course. Most insurance policies do. It only became controversial when the Republican party decided to wage an assault against women.

again Darla... there is NO assault against women... that is simply the line the Dems drummed up to con stupid people into attacking the Rep.

Again... try answering these simple questions...

1) Are you forced to work for anyone that provides insurance that doesn't cover birth control?

2) Are you forced to stop using birth control?

3) Are you prohibited from buying birth control on your own?

Try answering those Darla.

As for your insurance plan... are you going to add everything your employees want to the coverage?
 
again Darla... there is NO assault against women... that is simply the line the Dems drummed up to con stupid people into attacking the Rep.

Again... try answering these simple questions...

1) Are you forced to work for anyone that provides insurance that doesn't cover birth control?

2) Are you forced to stop using birth control?

3) Are you prohibited from buying birth control on your own?

Try answering those Darla.

As for your insurance plan... are you going to add everything your employees want to the coverage?

All of your questions have been addressed previously on this thread.

WHat I do with my employees is none of your fucking business...I abide by all regulations, both state and federal and I do not find them burdensome.
 
again Darla... there is NO assault against women... that is simply the line the Dems drummed up to con stupid people into attacking the Rep.

Again... try answering these simple questions...

1) Are you forced to work for anyone that provides insurance that doesn't cover birth control?

2) Are you forced to stop using birth control?

3) Are you prohibited from buying birth control on your own?

Try answering those Darla.

As for your insurance plan... are you going to add everything your employees want to the coverage?

It seriously shows how arrogant you are that I have spent days writing about this issue, and have addressed every aspect of it, in depth, in this thread and others, but you waltz in here and start throwing up hostile and bs questions without even bothering to read my posts. Because you don't care what I say. You don't even care that churches were exempt from the start. You just think you're going to come in here, the big daddy, and yell and scream and change something.

You have already proved you have no idea what you are talking about with your previous posts. You didn't even understand the mandate.

Take your mansplainin and shove it up your ass.

My posts on this address everything. I am extremely knowledgeable on this subject but you've dismissed that, including by LAUGHING IN MY FACE, when I correctly stated that churches were always exempt. That's sexist. Your position on this is as well. Your behavior is absurdly sexist.
 
Which is irrelevant to the wholly intellectual argument as to why the church objected, and whether it was an attempt by the Administration to circumvent their First Amendment rights through force.

I don't personally object to the "hawaii compromise"... but then I don't find it morally objectionable to tell a woman where to get contraceptives, even the so-called "abortion pill"... Has the church continued to object? Yes, because the compromise forces them to act against their belief system.

Yeah, okay, whatever.

Law passed, exceptions granted, now in effect.

Wank off about your so-called "intellectual" points to your heart's content. You know what they say about self-described intellectuals...

And you've posted nothing intellectual on this thread. You've wanked, and now you've got the more emotional wanker SF in here. Intellectualism? Permit me to laugh!
 
Yeah, okay, whatever.

Law passed, exceptions granted, now in effect.

Wank off about your so-called "intellectual" points to your heart's content. You know what they say about self-described intellectuals...

Yeah, they say we're sexy. I agree with they in that respect.
 
All of your questions have been addressed previously on this thread.

WHat I do with my employees is none of your fucking business...I abide by all regulations, both state and federal and I do not find them burdensome.

Please, tell us which post # answered those questions...

So, as a private business owner, it is none of my business what your plan offers to your employees... but it is your business what other private business owners offer?

If the government comes in and states, you must provide prostitutes as part of your health plan... would you blindly abide or would you object?
 
Please, tell us which post # answered those questions...

So, as a private business owner, it is none of my business what your plan offers to your employees... but it is your business what other private business owners offer?

If the government comes in and states, you must provide prostitutes as part of your health plan... would you blindly abide or would you object?


Hilarious. You'll get really far with this one, SF. Fucking dumbass.
 
Hilarious. You'll get really far with this one, SF. Fucking dumbass.

It is an issue I know she does not approve of, similar to the Church not approving of birth control.

That said, I understand you are too fucking ignorant to comprehend that on your own. In the future, perhaps you should stick to your straw men.
 
Please, tell us which post # answered those questions...

So, as a private business owner, it is none of my business what your plan offers to your employees... but it is your business what other private business owners offer?

If the government comes in and states, you must provide prostitutes as part of your health plan... would you blindly abide or would you object?

No, it's none of your business what I do here, but I abide by all regulations and don't have a problem with them either. So the taxpayers as a group tell me what to do, which is what happened with the birth control mandate which over 60% of americans support. When you get over 60% of americans who want to know what I do here, let me know.

My posts from yesterday and today, and in fact, from friday as well, have all addressed all of your stupid questions, oh and they are stupid, at length.

Prostitutes? You sound like Rush Limbaugh now. That's perfect. I knew if you went on long enough you'd reveal the ugly underbelly here. That was quick.
 
It is an issue I know she does not approve of, similar to the Church not approving of birth control.

That said, I understand you are too fucking ignorant to comprehend that on your own. In the future, perhaps you should stick to your straw men.

Untrue. I believe prostitution should be legalized.
 
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