Ahahahahah, Viagra is generally perscribe to men who are past the age of wanting to procreate, so I call bullshit!
Better get a helmet yourself, SF, you are crashing all over this thread.
Ahahahahah, Viagra is generally perscribe to men who are past the age of wanting to procreate, so I call bullshit!
Better get a helmet yourself, SF, you are crashing all over this thread.
Wow, Darla. That was a weak ad hom... He called nobody a prostitute "like Rush Limbaugh," he asked you about something that you likely would find morally objectionable and whether you would provide such under government force or maybe object a bit. Shoot he didn't even say what sex the prostitutes would be...
Side note: thank the goddess!
I personally think that if the church applied the "natural" restriction it would refuse any and all impotence drugs. Wouldn't impotence just be God saying you shouldn't procreate? Using outside drugs like that would be circumventing God's will...
A bit of a hypocrisy problem for them, IMO.
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Darla
You know, I actually have to work. I have written on this issue in depth, and again, I am very knowledgeable about it. There is no such thing as womensplain SF, and that you think there is, and that you do not understand mansplainin, really shows that just because you are good on sex assault, doesn't mean that you are not a clueless sexist. Which you have really revealed yourself to be here, much to my disappointment. But perhaps that's all to the better as well. You and damo hope to pretend win this by arguing me to sheer exhaustion. With pure stupidity.
1) Are you forced to work for anyone that provides insurance that doesn't cover birth control? Yes, many women may be. You may have heard about the recession? That there is only one job for every five people out of work? Further, this law if passed, would have allowed companies to call women in who had worked there for years, and strip them of their birth control coverage. Not only humiliating for the woman, and rife with potential abuse, but places an undue burden upon them to find new employment. This is the same exact argument Libertarians used to fight against sexual harassment laws - if you don't like it work somewhere else! Uh, NO. We dont' like it and so we will legislate against it and thus put the burden upon the actual problem; the harasser. Same idea here. We don't like it, so we passed a law mandating that insurance companies cover birth control just as they are often mandated to cover other basic, preventative health care. Women's health is not up for a vote or a religious veto. Sorry. It passed. Over 60% of Americans support it. Adjust or be cast out.
2) Are you forced to stop using birth control? No one in my socioeconomic class would be, nor would the women you are dating be forced to stop using birth control. As I've written on this very thread, it is the height of privilege and entitlement for you to come on here and make this claim that no woman would be prevented. This is false. In fact, as we know, when birth control is not fully covered by insurance companies, many women go without some months. Many of those, end up pregnant. This is why full coverage actually saves insurance companies money. Now why do these women go without? Answer: Because they are lazy whores too busy fucking to get down to the pharmacy!
BUZZzz, wrong answer Rush! It's because for many women, the cost of birth control is prohibitive. Some months they may have to choose between heat or food and birth control. So they take a chance.
3) Are you prohibited from buying birth control on your own? This is the same question as you asked above.
1) Are you forced to work for anyone that provides insurance that doesn't cover birth control? Yes, many women may be. You may have heard about the recession? That there is only one job for every five people out of work? Further, this law if passed, would have allowed companies to call women in who had worked there for years, and strip them of their birth control coverage. Not only humiliating for the woman, and rife with potential abuse, but places an undue burden upon them to find new employment. This is the same exact argument Libertarians used to fight against sexual harassment laws - if you don't like it work somewhere else! Uh, NO. We dont' like it and so we will legislate against it and thus put the burden upon the actual problem; the harasser. Same idea here. We don't like it, so we passed a law mandating that insurance companies cover birth control just as they are often mandated to cover other basic, preventative health care. Women's health is not up for a vote or a religious veto. Sorry. It passed. Over 60% of Americans support it. Adjust or be cast out.
2) Are you forced to stop using birth control? No one in my socioeconomic class would be, nor would the women you are dating be forced to stop using birth control. As I've written on this very thread, it is the height of privilege and entitlement for you to come on here and make this claim that no woman would be prevented. This is false. In fact, as we know, when birth control is not fully covered by insurance companies, many women go without some months. Many of those, end up pregnant. This is why full coverage actually saves insurance companies money. Now why do these women go without? Answer: Because they are lazy whores too busy fucking to get down to the pharmacy!
BUZZzz, wrong answer Rush! It's because for many women, the cost of birth control is prohibitive. Some months they may have to choose between heat or food and birth control. So they take a chance.
3) Are you prohibited from buying birth control on your own? This is the same question as you asked above.
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Darla
Uh, prostitutes are not health care services. Maybe you should try to come up with an standard preventive health care services that you think Darla may not approve of.
No, I get what you were aiming at. It's just the stupidest fucking thing I've read in a long while. And I read most of bravo's stuff.
No. He did not. He asked you about something he thought you would find morally objectionable and whether you would provide it without question.
Intellectually it is possible to argue that they are in order to prevent mental health issues.
I think he should have used a different analogy to avoid the straw man attack that he's just "like Rush"...
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Darla
You misstated something. Had you written:
Retardely, it is possible to argue they are...
you might have a point.
Intellectually? Someone's been lying to you Damo.
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Darla
Boy, you know you have beaten the colorado boys on points when they start wanking like they just made wanking an Olympic event.
If by "intellectually" you mean "entirely lacking in any support whatsoever" then yes.
I think he should have used one that wasn't jaw-droppingly stupid.
http://www.alternet.org/newsandview..._installs_his_bust_in_the_capitol/#paragraph3
Why Rush's audience consists of mostly men and women who hate women.
Sheesh, this guy must want to no longer be on the air!
Why Rush's audience consists of mostly men and women who hate women.
Sheesh, this guy must want to no longer be on the air!
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Darla
Here is the bottom line:
The reactionaries lost the day. Women and people who care about women's health won this battle. What is going on here is a lot of wanking.
To even attempt to compare prostitution to birth control coverage is one of the most extraordinary claims I have seen made. Birth control is a woman's health issue because without it, women are forced to bear children often on a yearly basis. This destroys their health over a lifetime, and often, early in that lifetime. It kills them. It robs them of any quality of life.
Now, many women can afford birth control on their own. These are not the women that women's groups and feminists advocate for. We advocate for the majority of women. See, the majority of women are not in the professional class and they are not sitting across from SF peddling financial services. They work as domestics, they work in hotels, they work in factories, they are clerical workers, administrators, etc. Many of them, like many men especially now, live pay check to pay check. Studies have shown that when insurance companies fully cover birth control, more of these women are not forced to forgo it and thus become pregnant when they do not wish to. This saves the insurance company money, and protects women's health at the same time. Mammograms would be much more analogous to birth control...certainly more so than prostitution.
This battle has been won. Insurance companies now must pay for birth control and other preventative health care. Preventative health care saves all of us money by lowering health care costs. It's a good thing! It also saves lives! All good stuff. Churches were always exempt, and other religious institutions were dealt with under the Hawaii compromise.
It's over. The only thing left is the wanking, crying, and personal attacks of the reactionaries who lost. And that is what you are seeing here, and all over tv and radio stations. It's good because it strips the masks from misogyny and affords independent women a good close look. They are recoiling. It's not so good because, damn...it just beats you down and makes you feel like shit after a while. And the only thing that gets you back up is this; that's what it's meant to do. So that there's no one left to fight tomorrow's battles. And that we cannot allow. But this one, this battle, is done. And won.
The reactionaries lost the day. Women and people who care about women's health won this battle. What is going on here is a lot of wanking.
To even attempt to compare prostitution to birth control coverage is one of the most extraordinary claims I have seen made. Birth control is a woman's health issue because without it, women are forced to bear children often on a yearly basis. This destroys their health over a lifetime, and often, early in that lifetime. It kills them. It robs them of any quality of life.
Now, many women can afford birth control on their own. These are not the women that women's groups and feminists advocate for. We advocate for the majority of women. See, the majority of women are not in the professional class and they are not sitting across from SF peddling financial services. They work as domestics, they work in hotels, they work in factories, they are clerical workers, administrators, etc. Many of them, like many men especially now, live pay check to pay check. Studies have shown that when insurance companies fully cover birth control, more of these women are not forced to forgo it and thus become pregnant when they do not wish to. This saves the insurance company money, and protects women's health at the same time. Mammograms would be much more analogous to birth control...certainly more so than prostitution.
This battle has been won. Insurance companies now must pay for birth control and other preventative health care. Preventative health care saves all of us money by lowering health care costs. It's a good thing! It also saves lives! All good stuff. Churches were always exempt, and other religious institutions were dealt with under the Hawaii compromise.
It's over. The only thing left is the wanking, crying, and personal attacks of the reactionaries who lost. And that is what you are seeing here, and all over tv and radio stations. It's good because it strips the masks from misogyny and affords independent women a good close look. They are recoiling. It's not so good because, damn...it just beats you down and makes you feel like shit after a while. And the only thing that gets you back up is this; that's what it's meant to do. So that there's no one left to fight tomorrow's battles. And that we cannot allow. But this one, this battle, is done. And won.
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Darla
I'd recommend to any woman to never be alone with a man who professes he is a rush fan, and I am dead certain serious.
LOL.
Interesting. I usually regard a victory when you start saying things like "You're just like Rush". I read what he said, and it wasn't what you want it to be.
Well, you are the only one who sees it that way.
He compared supplying birth control pills to supplying prostitutes, it is a Limbaughesque quote. You are the one trying hard not to see the likeness.
Gawd, people who give themselves pats on the back and claim victory for themselves are irritating to me.
I'm sorry, Darla was the one with the pats and the claim. She didn't say anything like that to me so I certainly wasn't claiming it.
He pointed out two things that can be seen as morally wrong by different entities and asked "if the government told you to would you"... He did not say that Sandra Fluke was a slut and a whore. There is a difference between these two things. I personally, would have used a different analogy to avoid exactly that comparison if I were to use this argument.
Where? because she said you were going wankers? Did you use the words, "I usually regard a victory" or was that your alter ego, again?