Say his name

christiefan915 said:
Bullshit. Metcalf had no right to take matters into his own hands. If he didn't like to see Anthony in his tent, get someone with authority to handle the situation.
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Exactly. FL, Toxic, Vols, etc. seem to not be able to understand that telling someone "Touch me and see what happens" is not an invitation, but a warning to back off. They think it's a threat. Which the law defines as a statement of imminent harm to another person, not a "leave me alone" statement. They also don't seem to understand that the dead kid, right to be there or not, had no authority to remove other people he didn't think belonged there. As you said, he should have contacted a teacher or other adult with that authority.
 
TOP said:
What happened that warranted stabbing someone in the heart?
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Perhaps nothing but misdirected aggression, but we don't have many details.

TOP said:
I can tell you that since this happened many conversations are happening in homes and in locker rooms and in schools... With the hope that our kids learn to make better decisions...
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The problem with these conversations is that they are being filled with omniscience fallacies, i.e. writing their own fictional accounts and going heavy on the tabloid hype and fabrication.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Exactly. FL, Toxic, Vols, etc. seem to not be able to understand that telling someone "Touch me and see what happens" is not an invitation, but a warning to back off. They think it's a threat. Which the law defines as a statement of imminent harm to another person, not a "leave me alone" statement. They also don't seem to understand that the dead kid, right to be there or not, had no authority to remove other people he didn't think belonged there. As you said, he should have contacted a teacher or other adult with that authority.
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If the races were switched, they'd be singing a different tune.

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christiefan915 said:
Bullshit. Metcalf had no right to take matters into his own hands. If he didn't like to see Anthony in his tent, get someone with authority to handle the situation.
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ThatOwlWoman said:
Exactly. FL, Toxic, Vols, etc. seem to not be able to understand that telling someone "Touch me and see what happens" is not an invitation, but a warning to back off. They think it's a threat. Which the law defines as a statement of imminent harm to another person, not a "leave me alone" statement. They also don't seem to understand that the dead kid, right to be there or not, had no authority to remove other people he didn't think belonged there. As you said, he should have contacted a teacher or other adult with that authority.
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@TOP - please note the above. Most conversations, especially those amongst leftists, fabricate accounts of events that are not known. Notice how christiefan915 and ThatOwlCoward pretend to have been right there witnessing the event first hand. Nobody knows whether Metcalf took any matters into his own hands. Nobody knows that Metcalf didn't like to see Anthony in his tent. Nobody knows whether or not Metcalf sought someone with authority. Nobody knows that either Metcalf or Anthony said "Touch me and see what happens." Nobody knows that Metcalf tried to remove anyone. Nobody knows much beyond Anthony having stabbed Metcalf and that Anthony was in the wrong tent. Anthony's being in the wrong tent might not have had anything to do with why Anthony stabbed Metcalf. For all anyone knows, the two of them were practicing a knife-throwing act for an upcoming carnival. Nobody knows ... except for the omniscients here on JPP and around the world engaging in stupidly wild speculation.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I know it's difficult, Twinkie, but please try to stop being so stupid.
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Why do u ignore this part of the law

Under Texas law u cant claim self defense if u provoke the use of force



There are certain situations where self-defense is not a defense strategy. These include when the defendant:
  • provoked the victim’s use of force and did not abandon the encounter.2



Because the killer is black?
 
volsrocks said:
Why do u ignore this part of the law

Under Texas law u cant claim self defense if u provoke the use of force



There are certain situations where self-defense is not a defense strategy. These include when the defendant:
  • provoked the victim’s use of force and did not abandon the encounter.2



Because the killer is black?
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Why do you want to lynch this kid instead of wait for the court to arrive at a judgment? Is that how you do it in Canada?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Exactly. FL, Toxic, Vols, etc. seem to not be able to understand that telling someone "Touch me and see what happens" is not an invitation, but a warning to back off. They think it's a threat. Which the law defines as a statement of imminent harm to another person, not a "leave me alone" statement. They also don't seem to understand that the dead kid, right to be there or not, had no authority to remove other people he didn't think belonged there. As you said, he should have contacted a teacher or other adult with that authority.
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Under Texas law Anthony should have withdrawn from the situation not escalate it. He won't be successful claiming self defense.
 
christiefan915 said:
Bullshit. Metcalf had no right to take matters into his own hands. If he didn't like to see Anthony in his tent, get someone with authority to handle the situation.
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That does not give Anthony the right to claim self defense. Anthony escalated the dispute he is going to get convicted. Who brings a knife to a track meet? Anthony should have said "My bad" and moved.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Doesn't matter, Kleaglette. If one person touches another without consent, under the law that's considered assault. That gives the right to self defense. If you were actually a "doctor" and an "advanced practice nurse" before that specialty existed, as you've claimed, you would know this. All of us as patients sign a permission to treat, which includes language permitting touching (even to help) by someone else. It's surprising that with all of your alleged years as a licensed health care professional, you are ignorant of this.
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Show me where I claimed , bird brain. Anthony had a duty not to escalate the situation. He didn't do that he escalated the situation. It's like a home intruder being told by the homeowner to leave and saying "touch me" then saying "punch me and see what happens" then stabbing the home owner. Metcalf had every right to be where he was and was defending that space Anthony was an intruder. Anthony escalated the situation by not moving and being confrontational. That isn't allowed by state self defense law.
 
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