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Your Federal Tax Dollars at Work
by Robert S. McIntyre
The American Prospect magazine, May 20, 2002


Tax day has come and gone, and about 100 million Americans have filed their income-tax returns. For all the grumbling about complexity-fair enough, tax filing is way too complicated-most of us understand that taxes pay for defending our country, protecting our environment, building our roads, educating our children, and all the other essential things we depend on government to do. One thing most people probably don't realize, however, is that almost a fifth of the income-tax dollars we send to Washington aren't spent on these kinds of important programs. Instead, this year more than $170 billion of our money will be paid out in corporate welfare.

If big corporations actually paid 35 percent of their U.S. profits in federal income taxes, as the tax code ostensibly requires, corporate income taxes this year would total at least $308 billion. But actual corporate-tax payments this year are expected to be only $136 billion. In other words, this year (and next), for the first time since the early 1980S, corporate-tax loopholes will actually cost the U.S. Treasury more than the amount companies pay in income taxes.

The recent surge in corporate welfare reflects, in part, the enormous new tax breaks adopted in the so-called stimulus bill. But even before this year's new loopholes, corporate-tax welfare had been expanding rapidly. Tax breaks for stock options, congressional indifference to offshore corporate tax shelters, and an array of other tax breaks have allowed many companies to earn billions in profits yet pay little or nothing in federal income taxes.
What has this meant for specific companies? From 1996 through 2000,10 large profitable companies enjoyed a total of $50 billion in tax breaks.

That brought their combined tax bills down to only 8.9 percent of their $191 billion in U.S. profits over those five years. In the most recent two years for which data are available, these 1o companies received $29 billion in tax welfare, and paid a mere 5.9 percent of their profits in federal income taxes.

Microsoft enjoyed more than 51: billion in total tax breaks over the past five years. Microsoft, in fact, actually paid no taxes at all in 1999, despite $12.3 billion in reported U.S. profits. Microsoft's tax rate for the past two years was only 1.8 percent on $21.9 billion in pre-tax U.S. profits.

General Electric, America's most profitable corporation, reported $50.8 billion in U.S. profits over the past five years, but paid only 1l.5 percent of that in federal income taxes. That low tax rate reflected almost $12 billion in corporate-tax welfare.

Ford enjoyed $9.1 billion in corporate-tax-welfare over the past five years. It reported $18.6 billion in U.S. profits over the past two years but paid a tax rate of only 5.7 percent.

WorldCom paid no taxes at all in two of the last three years, despite reported U.S. profits of $15.2 billion. WorldCom's total tax rate over the three years was only 1.6 percent.

IBM reported $5.7 billion in U.S. profits in 2000 but paid only 3.4 percent of that in federal income taxes. In 1997, IBM reported $3.1 billion in U.S. profits; instead of paying taxes, it got a tax rebate. Over the past five years, IBM enjoyed a total of $4.7 billion in corporate-tax welfare.
General Motors paid no taxes at all in three of the last five years, despite $12.5 billion in reported U.S. profits. GM's tax rate for the past three years was negative 1.3 percent.

Enron paid no income taxes at all in four of the past five years, despite $1.8 billion in reported U.S. profits. Enron's total taxes over the five years were a negative $381 million. Its corporate-tax welfare totaled $1 billion.
Rounding out the list of 10 are the El Paso Corporation, ColgatePalmolive, and the Navistar International Corporation, all with similar stories.

Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona and House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt of Missouri want to do something about corporate tax avoidance. They've introduced legislation to establish a "Corporate Subsidy Reform Commission" to provide recommendations about corporate taxes and spending subsidies that ought to be eliminated.

Of course, the McCain-Gephardt proposal faces many roadblocks-and not just in getting enacted. Getting a commission appointed by President Bush-and getting congressional leaders from both parties to agree to condemn tax breaks that benefit some of their biggest political supporters- seems difficult if not impossible. But McCain and Gephardt argue that recent experience with military base closings, where the narrow constituency interests of particular senators and representatives have frequently been overridden by the common good, offers a promising precedent.

Couple that with McCain and Gephardt's plan to introduce further legislation-that proposes to use the revenues raised by corporate-welfare reductions to pay for individual tax reform and simplification, bolster Social Security, pay down the national debt, and strengthen essential programs- and, well, maybe they're on to something. ~

Ya shut the fuck up Republican apologist!

CK
 
Getting a little pissy because SuperFreak humiliated you in your previous thread??
 
Solitary,

Can you explain why Enron paid no taxes for 5 years in a row and actually got a $350M tax rebate....even while making $1.8 billion in profits???

CK
 
Getting a little pissy because SuperFreak humiliated you in your previous thread??

I can only deduced by the amount of "CanadianKid This user is on your Ignore List. "s that I see, SF handed him his @$$.
 
Solitary,

Can you explain why Enron paid no taxes for 5 years in a row and actually got a $350M tax rebate....even while making $1.8 billion in profits???

CK

I haven't looked at the specifics, but there are many, many reasons for a corporation to have tax breaks and tax credits.

And, as I said in the previous tax thread, if we DO tax corporations they simply pass them on to the consumer as a cost of doing business.

Taxing corporations has always sounded like a great plan. But its a shitty idea when you look at the effects of such taxation.
 
I haven't looked at the specifics, but there are many, many reasons for a corporation to have tax breaks and tax credits.

And, as I said in the previous tax thread, if we DO tax corporations they simply pass them on to the consumer as a cost of doing business.

Taxing corporations has always sounded like a great plan. But its a shitty idea when you look at the effects of such taxation.


So you rather like the fact that your getting price gouged at the pumps by Exxon....

I love Republican voters!

CK
 
Your Federal Tax Dollars at Work
by Robert S. McIntyre
The American Prospect magazine, May 20, 2002


Tax day has come and gone, and about 100 million Americans have filed their income-tax returns. For all the grumbling about complexity-fair enough, tax filing is way too complicated-most of us understand that taxes pay for defending our country, protecting our environment, building our roads, educating our children, and all the other essential things we depend on government to do. One thing most people probably don't realize, however, is that almost a fifth of the income-tax dollars we send to Washington aren't spent on these kinds of important programs. Instead, this year more than $170 billion of our money will be paid out in corporate welfare.

If big corporations actually paid 35 percent of their U.S. profits in federal income taxes, as the tax code ostensibly requires, corporate income taxes this year would total at least $308 billion. But actual corporate-tax payments this year are expected to be only $136 billion. In other words, this year (and next), for the first time since the early 1980S, corporate-tax loopholes will actually cost the U.S. Treasury more than the amount companies pay in income taxes.

The recent surge in corporate welfare reflects, in part, the enormous new tax breaks adopted in the so-called stimulus bill. But even before this year's new loopholes, corporate-tax welfare had been expanding rapidly. Tax breaks for stock options, congressional indifference to offshore corporate tax shelters, and an array of other tax breaks have allowed many companies to earn billions in profits yet pay little or nothing in federal income taxes.
What has this meant for specific companies? From 1996 through 2000,10 large profitable companies enjoyed a total of $50 billion in tax breaks.

That brought their combined tax bills down to only 8.9 percent of their $191 billion in U.S. profits over those five years. In the most recent two years for which data are available, these 1o companies received $29 billion in tax welfare, and paid a mere 5.9 percent of their profits in federal income taxes.

Microsoft enjoyed more than 51: billion in total tax breaks over the past five years. Microsoft, in fact, actually paid no taxes at all in 1999, despite $12.3 billion in reported U.S. profits. Microsoft's tax rate for the past two years was only 1.8 percent on $21.9 billion in pre-tax U.S. profits.

General Electric, America's most profitable corporation, reported $50.8 billion in U.S. profits over the past five years, but paid only 1l.5 percent of that in federal income taxes. That low tax rate reflected almost $12 billion in corporate-tax welfare.

Ford enjoyed $9.1 billion in corporate-tax-welfare over the past five years. It reported $18.6 billion in U.S. profits over the past two years but paid a tax rate of only 5.7 percent.

WorldCom paid no taxes at all in two of the last three years, despite reported U.S. profits of $15.2 billion. WorldCom's total tax rate over the three years was only 1.6 percent.

IBM reported $5.7 billion in U.S. profits in 2000 but paid only 3.4 percent of that in federal income taxes. In 1997, IBM reported $3.1 billion in U.S. profits; instead of paying taxes, it got a tax rebate. Over the past five years, IBM enjoyed a total of $4.7 billion in corporate-tax welfare.
General Motors paid no taxes at all in three of the last five years, despite $12.5 billion in reported U.S. profits. GM's tax rate for the past three years was negative 1.3 percent.

Enron paid no income taxes at all in four of the past five years, despite $1.8 billion in reported U.S. profits. Enron's total taxes over the five years were a negative $381 million. Its corporate-tax welfare totaled $1 billion.
Rounding out the list of 10 are the El Paso Corporation, ColgatePalmolive, and the Navistar International Corporation, all with similar stories.

Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona and House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt of Missouri want to do something about corporate tax avoidance. They've introduced legislation to establish a "Corporate Subsidy Reform Commission" to provide recommendations about corporate taxes and spending subsidies that ought to be eliminated.

Of course, the McCain-Gephardt proposal faces many roadblocks-and not just in getting enacted. Getting a commission appointed by President Bush-and getting congressional leaders from both parties to agree to condemn tax breaks that benefit some of their biggest political supporters- seems difficult if not impossible. But McCain and Gephardt argue that recent experience with military base closings, where the narrow constituency interests of particular senators and representatives have frequently been overridden by the common good, offers a promising precedent.

Couple that with McCain and Gephardt's plan to introduce further legislation-that proposes to use the revenues raised by corporate-welfare reductions to pay for individual tax reform and simplification, bolster Social Security, pay down the national debt, and strengthen essential programs- and, well, maybe they're on to something. ~

Ya shut the fuck up Republican apologist!

CK


Once again the cannuckistani kid opens his mouth and makes a fool of himself.

IF everyone paid the stated tax brackets (individuals AND corporations) then of course revenue to the government would be higher. HOWEVER dumbshit, if the idiots in DC provide deductions, loopholes, subsidies etc.... then only a fool would not take advantage of those to reduce tax liabilities.
 
Once again the cannuckistani kid opens his mouth and makes a fool of himself.

IF everyone paid the stated tax brackets (individuals AND corporations) then of course revenue to the government would be higher. HOWEVER dumbshit, if the idiots in DC provide deductions, loopholes, subsidies etc.... then only a fool would not take advantage of those to reduce tax liabilities.

So wait...... your advocating the corporations trying to rip off the government.... Classic, you know if the big corporations dont pay the taxes, than somebody else has to pay....

That would be YOU the dumb Republican voter...

CK
 
Yes lets everybody try to hide all our income in offshore havens....

The US tax system will collect 0 money....Than who pays for your military, medicare, schooling?

CK
 
For somebody who advocates the free market system....

Who pays for your roads? Not the private sector

Who pays for your medicare? Not the private sector

Who pays for your parks? Not the private sector

Who pays for your schools? Not the private sector

CK
 
So wait...... your advocating the corporations trying to rip off the government.... Classic, you know if the big corporations dont pay the taxes, than somebody else has to pay....

That would be YOU the dumb Republican voter...

CK

Are you really this ignorant?

IF the government is providing loopholes, deductions etc... and the corporation uses them, the corporation is not "ripping off the government" you idiot. It is no different than an individual using the standard deduction or itemizing deductions. NO different you ignorant little twit.
 
So wait...... your advocating the corporations trying to rip off the government.... Classic, you know if the big corporations dont pay the taxes, than somebody else has to pay....

That would be YOU the dumb Republican voter...

CK

Wow, that is quite an interesting interpretation of what he said.

The government sets the laws that corporations are to follow and when corporations follow them they are 'ripping off the government'.
 
Are you really this ignorant?

IF the government is providing loopholes, deductions etc... and the corporation uses them, the corporation is not "ripping off the government" you idiot. It is no different than an individual using the standard deduction or itemizing deductions. NO different you ignorant little twit.

But, if a republican were to say, in the course of a campaign, or even here, that the US "has the highest corporate tax rate in the world" well then, that would really be misleading, to the point of lying, wouldn't it?
 
So you rather like the fact that your getting price gouged at the pumps by Exxon....

I love Republican voters!

CK

Wait, rather than try and change the topic and throw insults instead of info, why don't you explain how what I said was wrong??



Lets say I own X Corp, and I manufacture widgets. Lets say these widgets cost $100 to produce. In order to make a 10% profit, I am going to charge $110 for each widget.

Now if you, in your infinite financial wisdom, decide to tax me $10 on every widget I make, do you honestly expect me to continue to only charge $110???

Corporation exist to make a profit. THey do not exist as a service to the people. Get that idea thru your head and it will be easier to understand.

If the federal government gives tax loopholes to corporations, then the corporations are going to continue to use them.

Taxing the corporations is one sure way to make sure that they move their businesses overseas. And THAT certainly doesn't do us any good.



And CK, it might do you good to remember that most of these corporations are publically traded. This means all those retirement accounts are tied to the profits of these corporations. Its not some fatcat sucking up all the money, its thousands of middle class workers socking away money for retirement.
 
Wow, that is quite an interesting interpretation of what he said.

The government sets the laws that corporations are to follow and when corporations follow them they are 'ripping off the government'.

You picked a bad thread to post on Cawacko. I'm on this thread. You might want to run off holding your ass now, and save yourself some time.
 
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