The Single Payer Scam
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Robo
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Here, ya' go, Robo.....
The lefty ain't tellin you Fuddy that the feds and especially Obama regulated and taxed the majority of the COMPETITION out of business and or out of the country. Therefore the remaining domestic corps. have no incentive to pay Americans more. America's CRONY CAPITALIST BRIBERY SYSTEM is among the worst in the western world.
Obama has had 7 plus years to reestablish the American dream, what has he done to promote that goal Fuddy?
Your video is simply an indictment of your FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT Fuddy.
Robo
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Make up your mind Fuddy, here's what you posted earlier,
“Waiting Your Turn
Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada[20] is the Institute's annual report on hospital waiting times in Canada, based on a nationwide survey of physicians and health care practitioners. The twentieth annual survey, released December 2010, found that the total waiting time between referral from a general practitioner and delivery of elective treatment by a specialist, averaged across 12 specialties and 10 provinces surveyed, had risen from 16.1 weeks in 2009 to 18.2 weeks in 2010.[20]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute
Robo
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Make up your mind Fuddy, here's what you posted earlier,
“Waiting Your Turn
Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada[20] is the Institute's annual report on hospital waiting times in Canada, based on a nationwide survey of physicians and health care practitioners. The twentieth annual survey, released December 2010, found that the total waiting time between referral from a general practitioner and delivery of elective treatment by a specialist, averaged across 12 specialties and 10 provinces surveyed, had risen from 16.1 weeks in 2009 to 18.2 weeks in 2010.[20]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_Institute
Robo
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Still talking to yourself, huh Sot?
Robo
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More than 52,000 Canadians travelled abroad for health care last year, study finds
The number of Canadian patients who travelled abroad in 2014 to receive non-emergency medical treatment increased 25% from 2013, according to a study conducted by the Fraser Institute, a Canadian independent research and education organization.
In 2014, 52,513 Canadians travelled beyond our borders to seek medical treatment, compared with 41,838 in 2013. The numbers suggest that the Canadian health care system could not comply with the needs and demands of a substantial number of Canadian patients, according to the study.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...oad-for-treatment-increased-by-25-study-finds
Robo
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Considering the state of the VA healthcare system in America and the absurd waiting times for vets to get healthcare, and considering the size and population of America as compared to the other nations that have single payer healthcare, and considering the proven incompetency within the Washington political system, it's my opinion it doesn't take a genius to understand that America would be insane to adopt a single payer healthcare system.
300 plus million people, 20 trillion dollars in debt, expected by the western world to keep the peace worldwide, provide the world's police force, build nations, provide the United Nation's military arm and execute an unconstitutional Drug War can't even take care of it's veterans with it's incompetent single payer system.
Now let's take a look at the candidates for the Presidency. A clueless idiot who's talent is bribing public officials and filing bankruptcies and then there's the incompetent creator of ISIS, the pathological lying Benghazi Bitch who has no respect for America's security. An incompetent Bitch who's only talent is an addiction to power and money from highly suspicious sources and promising Wall Street Bankers she'll do their bidding as President. These are the crooked folks that only morons would hand over their healthcare system to.
300 plus million people, 20 trillion dollars in debt, expected by the western world to keep the peace worldwide, provide the world's police force, build nations, provide the United Nation's military arm and execute an unconstitutional Drug War can't even take care of it's veterans with it's incompetent single payer system.
Now let's take a look at the candidates for the Presidency. A clueless idiot who's talent is bribing public officials and filing bankruptcies and then there's the incompetent creator of ISIS, the pathological lying Benghazi Bitch who has no respect for America's security. An incompetent Bitch who's only talent is an addiction to power and money from highly suspicious sources and promising Wall Street Bankers she'll do their bidding as President. These are the crooked folks that only morons would hand over their healthcare system to.
evince
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cancel2 2022
Canceled
The NHS is free at the point of use, it's not perfect but it has been ranked the best in the world by the Commonwealth Fund.
http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/po...alth-system-in-the-world/20007019.fullarticle
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Robo
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Tell us why you're just a trash-mouthed drunk!
Robo
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The Ugly Truth About Canadian Health Care
Mountain-bike enthusiast Suzanne Aucoin had to fight more than her Stage IV colon cancer. Her doctor suggested Erbitux—a proven cancer drug that targets cancer cells exclusively, unlike conventional chemotherapies that more crudely kill all fast-growing cells in the body—and Aucoin went to a clinic to begin treatment. But if Erbitux offered hope, Aucoin’s insurance didn’t: she received one inscrutable form letter after another, rejecting her claim for reimbursement. Yet another example of the callous hand of managed care, depriving someone of needed medical help, right? Guess again. Erbitux is standard treatment, covered by insurance companies—in the United States. Aucoin lives in Ontario, Canada.
When Aucoin appealed to an official ombudsman, the Ontario government claimed that her treatment was unproven and that she had gone to an unaccredited clinic. But the FDA in the U.S. had approved Erbitux, and her clinic was a cancer center affiliated with a prominent Catholic hospital in Buffalo. This January, the ombudsman ruled in Aucoin’s favor, awarding her the cost of treatment. She represents a dramatic new trend in Canadian health-care advocacy: finding the treatment you need in another country, and then fighting Canadian bureaucrats (and often suing) to get them to pick up the tab.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/ugl...are-13032.html
Mountain-bike enthusiast Suzanne Aucoin had to fight more than her Stage IV colon cancer. Her doctor suggested Erbitux—a proven cancer drug that targets cancer cells exclusively, unlike conventional chemotherapies that more crudely kill all fast-growing cells in the body—and Aucoin went to a clinic to begin treatment. But if Erbitux offered hope, Aucoin’s insurance didn’t: she received one inscrutable form letter after another, rejecting her claim for reimbursement. Yet another example of the callous hand of managed care, depriving someone of needed medical help, right? Guess again. Erbitux is standard treatment, covered by insurance companies—in the United States. Aucoin lives in Ontario, Canada.
When Aucoin appealed to an official ombudsman, the Ontario government claimed that her treatment was unproven and that she had gone to an unaccredited clinic. But the FDA in the U.S. had approved Erbitux, and her clinic was a cancer center affiliated with a prominent Catholic hospital in Buffalo. This January, the ombudsman ruled in Aucoin’s favor, awarding her the cost of treatment. She represents a dramatic new trend in Canadian health-care advocacy: finding the treatment you need in another country, and then fighting Canadian bureaucrats (and often suing) to get them to pick up the tab.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/ugl...are-13032.html
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The Ugly Truth About Canadian Health Care continued
What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people. When HillaryCare shook Washington, I remember thinking that the Clintonistas were right.
My health-care prejudices crumbled not in the classroom but on the way to one. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute. Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care. I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic—with a three-year wait list; or the woman needing a sleep study to diagnose what seemed like sleep apnea, who faced a two-year delay; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/ugl...are-13032.html
What I knew about American health care was unappealing: high expenses and lots of uninsured people. When HillaryCare shook Washington, I remember thinking that the Clintonistas were right.
My health-care prejudices crumbled not in the classroom but on the way to one. On a subzero Winnipeg morning in 1997, I cut across the hospital emergency room to shave a few minutes off my frigid commute. Swinging open the door, I stepped into a nightmare: the ER overflowed with elderly people on stretchers, waiting for admission. Some, it turned out, had waited five days. The air stank with sweat and urine. Right then, I began to reconsider everything that I thought I knew about Canadian health care. I soon discovered that the problems went well beyond overcrowded ERs. Patients had to wait for practically any diagnostic test or procedure, such as the man with persistent pain from a hernia operation whom we referred to a pain clinic—with a three-year wait list; or the woman needing a sleep study to diagnose what seemed like sleep apnea, who faced a two-year delay; or the woman with breast cancer who needed to wait four months for radiation therapy, when the standard of care was four weeks.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/ugl...are-13032.html
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"Father" of Canadian Health Care Admits its a Failure
Civitas Review
"Father" of Canadian Health Care Admits its a Failure
By Brian Balfour | Posted in Healthcare |
7
JUN
27
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Just yesterday, I wrote about how unpopular the British healthcare system has become. Today comes news that the man largely responsible for Canada's conversion to a single-payer health care system has admitted the system's failure:
"Back in the 1960s, (Claude) Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec — then the largest and most affluent in the country — adopt government-administered health care, covering all citizens through tax levies.
The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: "the father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's work triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas were implemented from coast to coast."
Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in "crisis."
"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay. But now he prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice."
Read all at http://civitasreview.com/healthcare/...its-a-failure/
Civitas Review
"Father" of Canadian Health Care Admits its a Failure
By Brian Balfour | Posted in Healthcare |
7
JUN
27
Tweet This Article Share on Facebook Email This Article
Just yesterday, I wrote about how unpopular the British healthcare system has become. Today comes news that the man largely responsible for Canada's conversion to a single-payer health care system has admitted the system's failure:
"Back in the 1960s, (Claude) Castonguay chaired a Canadian government committee studying health reform and recommended that his home province of Quebec — then the largest and most affluent in the country — adopt government-administered health care, covering all citizens through tax levies.
The government followed his advice, leading to his modern-day moniker: "the father of Quebec medicare." Even this title seems modest; Castonguay's work triggered a domino effect across the country, until eventually his ideas were implemented from coast to coast."
Four decades later, as the chairman of a government committee reviewing Quebec health care this year, Castonguay concluded that the system is in "crisis."
"We thought we could resolve the system's problems by rationing services or injecting massive amounts of new money into it," says Castonguay. But now he prescribes a radical overhaul: "We are proposing to give a greater role to the private sector so that people can exercise freedom of choice."
Read all at http://civitasreview.com/healthcare/...its-a-failure/
Robo
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As a Canadian, I am often bewildered by the American Left’s utopian albeit perfectly incorrect views of the Canadian healthcare system. The general notion, as exemplified in Michael Moore’s 2007 film Sicko, is that countries such as Canada and Cuba offer compassionate universal free healthcare to its citizenry while a diabolical consortium of capitalists headed by Dr. Evil runs the American system. Let me share some important realities regarding our “free” Canadian healthcare.
(1) Our healthcare is anything but free. We are levied some of the most punitive and exorbitant tax rates of all industrialized nations. Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
(2) Margaret Thatcher famously quipped “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” Let’s see how this played out within the Canadian healthcare system. For decades, Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
(3) The Canadian healthcare system is so overburdened that it is difficult to find a family physician willing to take on new patients. Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
(4) Let us suppose that you are facing a medical emergency. Have no fear, as our Canadian system is free and generous. You’ll only have to wait 8-14 hours in a hospital waiting room (as did my wife when she experienced a medical situation whilst pregnant with our first child). You might die while waiting but at least it is “free.”
(5) The failure of our Canadian healthcare system is so apparent (and so unsustainable) that in the last few years many Canadians have had to enroll in private health insurance programs! Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
(1) Our healthcare is anything but free. We are levied some of the most punitive and exorbitant tax rates of all industrialized nations. Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
(2) Margaret Thatcher famously quipped “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” Let’s see how this played out within the Canadian healthcare system. For decades, Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
(3) The Canadian healthcare system is so overburdened that it is difficult to find a family physician willing to take on new patients. Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
(4) Let us suppose that you are facing a medical emergency. Have no fear, as our Canadian system is free and generous. You’ll only have to wait 8-14 hours in a hospital waiting room (as did my wife when she experienced a medical situation whilst pregnant with our first child). You might die while waiting but at least it is “free.”
(5) The failure of our Canadian healthcare system is so apparent (and so unsustainable) that in the last few years many Canadians have had to enroll in private health insurance programs! Read more at https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...-t-romanticize-the-canadian-healthcare-system
Mr. Shaman
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Why are you opposed to personally providing the funding so all those you say have a right to healthcare can get it? Why do you blame the rest of us for not wanting to be forced to fund what YOU think should be in place?
Tell us why asshole.