The success of secularism. The failure of religion.

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No, secularism cannot reassure us that the universe is governed by a benevolent deity, or that the wicked will be punished and the good rewarded, or that our souls will be clasped after death in the bosom of Abraham. But in leaving us to our devices, it does something better, because it does something truer. It forces us into the search: for truth, for beauty, for justice. And from that search, conducted in whatever state of anguish, have come the triumphs of modernity: liberal democracy, the movements for civil equality, the profundities of modern science, the glories of modern art. For death, for grief, for sin, for guilt, these boons bring no relief.

But compared to the promises of supernatural religion, they do have this to recommend them. They are real.

https://salmagundi.skidmore.edu/articles/360-disenchantment-and-dogma
 
BidenPresident said:
No, secularism cannot reassure us that the universe is governed by a benevolent deity, or that the wicked will be punished and the good rewarded, or that our souls will be clasped after death in the bosom of Abraham. But in leaving us to our devices, it does something better, because it does something truer. It forces us into the search: for truth, for beauty, for justice. And from that search, conducted in whatever state of anguish, have come the triumphs of modernity: liberal democracy, the movements for civil equality, the profundities of modern science, the glories of modern art. For death, for grief, for sin, for guilt, these boons bring no relief.

But compared to the promises of supernatural religion, they do have this to recommend them. They are real.

https://salmagundi.skidmore.edu/articles/360-disenchantment-and-dogma
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Secular humanism is the bane of humanity. Of course you would support it.

So would Stalin, and Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Hitler.

Godwined @ 2nd post!
 
BidenPresident said:
You write personal attacks constantly. No one wants your religion.
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Yours is non-religion and proven to be bad for humanity. Fuck off.

I like people, they don't need to suffer your kind of religion. The kind that kills people mercilessly.

Aktion T-4 for instance.

In America where I come from, we have Shriners and Ronald McDonald house for people like that.

And they are precious in their own way, true story.
 
"People invest in such beliefs as their culture makes available to them. Whether you arrived at faith through early training, through ratiocination, or through personal experience, you are overwhelmingly likely to be a Sunni in a Sunni environment, a Sikh in a Sikh, a Jain in a Jain. Yet every faith insists that it’s the true one, and that what everybody else believes is nonsense.
 
BidenPresident said:
"People invest in such beliefs as their culture makes available to them. Whether you arrived at faith through early training, through ratiocination, or through personal experience, you are overwhelmingly likely to be a Sunni in a Sunni environment, a Sikh in a Sikh, a Jain in a Jain. Yet every faith insists that it’s the true one, and that what everybody else believes is nonsense.
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Yeah, mostly Americans are not Muslims.

Why did you not mention the Shia Muslims, though? That's odd. :rolleyes:
 
BidenPresident said:
No, secularism cannot reassure us that the universe is governed by a benevolent deity, .....
But compared to the promises of supernatural religion, they do have this to recommend them. They are real.
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BidenPresident said:
Yet every faith insists that it’s the true one, and that what everybody else believes is nonsense.[/B]
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in short you believe secular humanism is the best religion...because it's true and what the rest of us believe is nonsense.....
 
As a replacement for religion, humanism has not fulfilled the hopes that people had for it, and neither has secularism in any of its other manifestations. They never can, and they never will. And so modernity is fated to be raked by periodic gusts of religious enthusiasm—Romanticism, communism, spiritualism, even the 60s itself, with its social crusades, its shamanistic drugs, its rock and roll revival meetings.

https://salmagundi.skidmore.edu/articles/360-disenchantment-and-dogma
 
BidenPresident said:
No, secularism cannot reassure us that the universe is governed by a benevolent deity, or that the wicked will be punished and the good rewarded, or that our souls will be clasped after death in the bosom of Abraham. But in leaving us to our devices, it does something better, because it does something truer. It forces us into the search: for truth, for beauty, for justice. And from that search, conducted in whatever state of anguish, have come the triumphs of modernity: liberal democracy, the movements for civil equality, the profundities of modern science, the glories of modern art. For death, for grief, for sin, for guilt, these boons bring no relief.

But compared to the promises of supernatural religion, they do have this to recommend them. They are real.

https://salmagundi.skidmore.edu/articles/360-disenchantment-and-dogma
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This article isn't secularist, it's Atheist. Secularists don't give a shit about religion and wouldn't be spending their time writing long articles about the evils of religion. Atheists on the other hand, would and do as we see here.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This article isn't secularist, it's Atheist. Secularists don't give a shit about religion and wouldn't be spending their time writing long articles about the evils of religion. Atheists on the other hand, would and do as we see here.
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I don't think the author ever says religion is evil. Just worn out.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Secular humanism is the bane of humanity. Of course you would support it.

So would Stalin, and Lenin, Castro, Mao, and Hitler.

Godwined @ 2nd post!
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You certainly do not appear to follow any religion I’ve ever heard of..
 
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