The Women Thing

LOL. Motleydude sat there for about an hour trying to reply, but eventually gave up and left. LOL. This is too great.

How much do I rock?

A lot.
 
hench why i say

McCain 08'

Obama is a Muslim,his sexism is noted by all.
I am not an Obama follower so to say, but he is NOT a Muslim and even if he were, it would not matter and should not matter....unless he brings his personal religious beliefs in to his workplace, our government.

I do think he is a tad sexist, a good ole gentleman in the men's club in the DNC....but NOT NEARLY as sexist as the calling his wife a "cunt", Mccain.....

care
 
It's not bogus. Salaries are a negotiation, and men are MORE MOTIVATED to hold out for more, because their relationships and status depend on this one factor moreso than a woman's does. Why do men make more? Women demand it. Many (not all) women will only be with a guy who makes more. They see being with someone who makes less as "settling". It's just true and you know it.
It's not true, I looked for just the opposite....someone who made less than me ended up being the better match, than someone making more than me...or equal to me, or the need to compete with me....

With true commitment and love, it does not matter....In fact, I would venture to say that when you know it does not matter, is when you are ready for a true commitment and marriage, when you accept that you are "in this thing" together!

I used to make twice what matt made, Our entire marriage....until I decided to retire young and decided I just didn't want to work anymore and the money was not worth the loss of living life to its fullest.

Now my husband not only doubles my pay, but makes 100% more than me, because I make nothing!!!!! hahahahahahahaha.....

So, now he is the head honcho making the dough and I am the subservant wifey! hahahahahahaha! NOT! but I am the wifey now.....not much of that when I was working and on the road all the time traveling...

so, as I said, I disagree....many strong women do not need a so to say strong man that makes more than her, if anything, I think she prefers someone that just accepts her and her career for what it is....better than his! And although it may seem that this is picking a "Weaker" man, I see it as the opposite....I see it as the man being a stronger man, because he is happy for his wife's great career and not intimidated by it, becaue he knows the job is NOT the say all and be all to a good marriage or relationship.

Care
 
It's not true, I looked for just the opposite....someone who made less than me ended up being the better match, than someone making more than me...or equal to me, or the need to compete with me....

With true commitment and love, it does not matter....In fact, I would venture to say that when you know it does not matter, is when you are ready for a true commitment and marriage, when you accept that you are "in this thing" together!

I used to make twice what matt made, Our entire marriage....until I decided to retire young and decided I just didn't want to work anymore and the money was not worth the loss of living life to its fullest.

Now my husband not only doubles my pay, but makes 100% more than me, because I make nothing!!!!! hahahahahahahaha.....

So, now he is the head honcho making the dough and I am the subservant wifey! hahahahahahaha! NOT! but I am the wifey now.....not much of that when I was working and on the road all the time traveling...

so, as I said, I disagree....many strong women do not need a so to say strong man that makes more than her, if anything, I think she prefers someone that just accepts her and her career for what it is....better than his! And although it may seem that this is picking a "Weaker" man, I see it as the opposite....I see it as the man being a stronger man, because he is happy for his wife's great career and not intimidated by it, becaue he knows the job is NOT the say all and be all to a good marriage or relationship.

Care

I agree, and we have similar tastes in men. Further, I have found that high-earning men are pains in the butt.
 
I agree, and we have similar tastes in men. Further, I have found that high-earning men are pains in the butt.
I've had my fair share, including an ex 1st husband of a 20 year ago plus, past....

they are major pains in the arse, I agree!

I know many very strong women, that I have worked with, vp's of MAJOR corporations, to Directors etc and we ALL are the same, no matter the level of our achievements, all have husbands that have not succeeded in the same manner and degree as us as far as "society" looks upon it, and we were all still pretty happily married with hubbies that adore and appreciate us and on a side note....did not cheat! Or less likely too, it seemed.....? hahahahahaha!
 
I've had my fair share, including an ex 1st husband of a 20 year ago plus, past....

they are major pains in the arse, I agree!

I know many very strong women, that I have worked with, vp's of MAJOR corporations, to Directors etc and we ALL are the same, no matter the level of our achievements, all have husbands that have not succeeded in the same manner and degree as us as far as "society" looks upon it, and we were all still pretty happily married with hubbies that adore and appreciate us and on a side note....did not cheat! Or less likely too, it seemed.....? hahahahahaha!

There we have it. I guess you and your friends are the only relevant sampling.
 
There we have it. I guess you and your friends are the only relevant sampling.

I think it has more relevance that what your male ego has made you think Asshat!

Please take a step back....and realize that it is only you, the man, that really thinks the "woman" thinks this way....

The woman does not think this way....for the most part. The teen girl or the very young adult female, maybe....but not the secure with her job and career woman...

in your male ego heads, YOU THINK this is how SHE SHOULD think about her man or the man she is going to choose as a mate, but it simply is not the case with the stronger, well paid, woman... in most cases...note asshat, that i did not say all, but most cases.

don't underestimate yourself or buddies without the super high paying salaries' ability to attract a woman of success....with one little sidebar, as long as you don't sit on your bum and do nothing, or are giving it the same effort as she is....in other words, if you are working hard, it doesn't much matter that the dough is not equal to hers....your in ''it'', (life) together, as a team.

care
 
I've had my fair share, including an ex 1st husband of a 20 year ago plus, past....

they are major pains in the arse, I agree!

I know many very strong women, that I have worked with, vp's of MAJOR corporations, to Directors etc and we ALL are the same, no matter the level of our achievements, all have husbands that have not succeeded in the same manner and degree as us as far as "society" looks upon it, and we were all still pretty happily married with hubbies that adore and appreciate us and on a side note....did not cheat! Or less likely too, it seemed.....? hahahahahaha!

My ex-fiance, who I came this close to marrying (date and place set and all), made a lot of money. By any standards I think. He was never home, and he had a real type A personality. When I fell in love with him, a lot of that was downplayed, and I kept waiting for that guy to come back, but of course, he didn’t. It took me a long time to get out of that relationship, and it was very painful to end it, but I was never so lonely as when I was in it. And I have avoided that workaholic business type ever since.
 
I think it has more relevance that what your male ego has made you think Asshat!
This is not my ego. You admitted it yourself in the phrase "...despite what society thinks...." or something close to that.
Please take a step back....and realize that it is only you, the man, that really thinks the "woman" thinks this way....
A minority are not. Sorry. You admitted it yourself.
The woman does not think this way....for the most part. The teen girl or the very young adult female, maybe....but not the secure with her job and career woman...
Again. You already made my case in your other post.
in your male ego heads, YOU THINK this is how SHE SHOULD think about her man or the man she is going to choose as a mate, but it simply is not the case with the stronger, well paid, woman... in most cases...note asshat, that i did not say all, but most cases.
But in the case of women in general, it is the case that they look to men for security. You're different and better, we get it.
don't underestimate yourself or buddies without the super high paying salaries' ability to attract a woman of success....with one little sidebar, as long as you don't sit on your bum and do nothing, or are giving it the same effort as she is....in other words, if you are working hard, it doesn't much matter that the dough is not equal to hers....your in ''it'', (life) together, as a team.

care


The majority of women are as I describe. SOrry. The data is in. You're a minority.
 
Care, just so you know, Asshat is they resident misogynist. It has a lot to do with the fact that he doesn't get dates.
 
Yeah just ignore anything Asshat says about gender or race or politics in general.

Just enjoy them for comic value. I really don't even think he believes it.
 
This is not my ego. You admitted it yourself in the phrase "...despite what society thinks...." or something close to that.

A minority are not. Sorry. You admitted it yourself.

Again. You already made my case in your other post.

But in the case of women in general, it is the case that they look to men for security. You're different and better, we get it.



The majority of women are as I describe. SOrry. The data is in. You're a minority.

there isn't a woman working that wants a fellow man coworker to get paid more than she does for the precise same job and effort put in to it....

this is what you have left out of your ''thinking''.....

things are different now....

sure, would it be nice that her husband is rich and successful....yeah, an added perk.....

however, i can assure you, most women, ARE NOT MARRIED to ''successful'' rich men that can support them and their future family, all on their own....not too many a girl, would ever marry now a days, if the girl is waiting for that dream of the past....

i can see your point regarding a man fighting harder than the female over a larger increase or raise perhaps...

care
 
there isn't a woman working that wants a fellow man coworker to get paid more than she does for the precise same job and effort put in to it....
But they want the man they date to make more. And the men they have working with them have women in their lives who want them to make more. This is the pressure differential that makes men HOLD OUT for more money.
this is what you have left out of your ''thinking''.....
Men do what their SO's want, which is to deman more money, they don't do what their coworker women want, which is for them to step aside.
things are different now....
No they're not.
sure, would it be nice that her husband is rich and successful....yeah, an added perk.....
Some consider essential, not a nice to have.
however, i can assure you, most women, ARE NOT MARRIED to ''successful'' rich men that can support them and their future family, all on their own....not too many a girl, would ever marry now a days, if the girl is waiting for that dream of the past....
They are waiting for it.
i can see your point regarding a man fighting harder than the female over a larger increase or raise perhaps...

care


and that's why they get paid more. Salaries are a negotiation. So you actually do see my main argument. that's honest of you care. Well. You're awesome anyway.
 
http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/censusstatistic/a/womenspay.htm


Women in the workforce are also less likely to work a full-time schedule and are more likely to leave the labor force for longer periods of time than men, further suppressing women's wages. These differing work patterns lead to an even larger earnings gap between men and women - suggesting that working women are penalized for their dual roles as wage earners and those who disproportionately care for home and family.

Men with children appear to get an earnings boost, whereas women lose earnings. Men with children earn about 2% more on average than men without children, according to the GAO findings, whereas women with children earn about 2.5% less than women without children.

Women have fewer years of work experience.
"The world today is vastly different than it was in 1983, but sadly, one thing that has remained the same is the pay gap between men and women," said U.S. Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-New York, 14th)."After accounting for so many external factors, it seems that still, at the root of it all, men get an inherent annual bonus just for being men. If this continues, the only guarantees in life will be death, taxes and the glass ceiling. We can't let that happen."

This GAO study updates a 2002 report it conducted at the request of Rep. Maloney, which examined the glass ceiling for female and male managers. This year's study used data from a more comprehensive, longitudinal study - the Panel Study of Income Dynamics. The study also accounted for a slew of external factors for the first time, chief among which were the differences in men's and women's work patterns, including more leave from work to care for family
 
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My ex-fiance, who I came this close to marrying (date and place set and all), made a lot of money. By any standards I think. He was never home, and he had a real type A personality. When I fell in love with him, a lot of that was downplayed, and I kept waiting for that guy to come back, but of course, he didn’t. It took me a long time to get out of that relationship, and it was very painful to end it, but I was never so lonely as when I was in it. And I have avoided that workaholic business type ever since.

I'm to lazy to ever be a successful businessman. I like to take life slowly and just kick back... Its bad enough that I can barely motivate myself to study for classes, especially now that I have my BA, I feel like I'm done and that the Master's is just something else to do.
 
Gertrud Scholtz-Klink (February 9, 1902 - March 24, 1999; nee Treusch) was a fervent National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazi Party) member and Reichs Women's Leader.
 
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