Trump election support highest in areas with highest rates of opioid drug use

domer76 said:
You think IV ingestion is equivalent to oral ingestion of a drug? What kind of massive ignorance is that? No wonder you’re a Trumpanzee.
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you stupid fuckstick.

1.massive Tylenol doses cause renal and liver damages. IV doses are a couple thousand milligrams
2. the pain relief isn't any better by IV then oral - in fact some drugs like narcotics are better taken orally -
as the liver metabolizes hydro/oxycodone into morphine. only the pain relief is faster by IV Tylenol
 
noise said:
you stupid fuckstick.

1.massive Tylenol doses cause renal and liver damages. IV doses are a couple thousand milligrams
2. the pain relief isn't any better by IV then oral - in fact some drugs like narcotics are better taken orally -
as the liver metabolizes hydro/oxycodone into morphine. only the pain relief is faster by IV Tylenol
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Of course, massive Tylenol doses cause renal and liver damage, dumbfuck. That’s well known. IV acetaminophen is 10mg/ml, not thousands of milligrams. Even oral is not recommended over 3,000 mg per day. You give that much Tylenol in an IV and you have a dead person.

But to equate IV administration of a drug to its oral administration is the claim of a fool.
 
domer76 said:
Of course, massive Tylenol doses cause renal and liver damage, dumbfuck. That’s well known. IV acetaminophen is 10mg/ml, not thousands of milligrams. Even oral is not recommended over 3,000 mg per day. You give that much Tylenol in an IV and you have a dead person.

But to equate IV administration of a drug to its oral administration is the claim of a fool.
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I'm talking the daily dose ( and you are a fool if you take anywhere near 3000 mgs ).
This is the fallacy that NSAIDs are sufficient for pain relief -they are not,
and are more dangerous in doses for moderate to severe pain. Tylenol is for mild to moderate pain.

Further while Tylenol is not a NSAID it is a COX enzyme inhibitor ..
For pain relief of moderate to severe narcotics are much safer and called for.
1oo ml drip -not that much- is 100 miligrams right there.
But to equate IV administration of a drug to its oral administration is the claim of a fool.
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There is NO ADVANTAGE IN PAIN RELIEF BY AN IV DRIP OF TYLENOL. except for a more rapid onset.
 
noise said:
I'm talking the daily dose ( and you are a fool if you take anywhere near 3000 mgs ).
This is the fallacy that NSAIDs are sufficient for pain relief -they are not,
and are more dangerous in doses for moderate to severe pain. Tylenol is for mild to moderate pain.

Further while Tylenol is not a NSAID it is a COX enzyme inhibitor ..
For pain relief of moderate to severe narcotics are much safer and called for.
1oo ml drip -not that much- is 100 miligrams right there.

There is NO ADVANTAGE IN PAIN RELIEF BY AN IV DRIP OF TYLENOL. except for a more rapid onset.
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I’ll bear the pain before I ever take acetaminophen.
 
domer76 said:
I’ll bear the pain before I ever take acetaminophen.
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I take it in small doses when needed. 500mg seems to work well enough for muscle pain.

I have osteoarthritis of the knees -the right in particular.

My provider still gives me Tramadol - I used to get codeine -which I found more effective to the localized pain.
I think they are the same schedule? But my new doctor "doesn't like to write codeine"
I felt like telling her "well I don't like chronic knee pain" -but thought better of shooting off my mouth before she cut me off the Tramadol as well
 
tinfoil said:
LOL struck the bullseye. You fucksticks want to make spurious correlations, well that's exactly what I posted. Learn some statistics, fucking retards
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There is nothing new here. There is alot on how into substance abuse trumps boomers are. there is no question.
 
blackascoal said:
Earlier research found president over-performed in areas with high drug, alcohol and suicide mortality rates

Support for Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election was greatest in the counties with the highest rates of chronic prescription opioid use, according to a new study published this week in the journal JAMA Network Open.

The study found that Mr Trump received about 39 per cent of the 2016 vote in the 638 counties with the lowest rates of long-term (90-day supply or more) Medicare opioid prescriptions, but about 60 per cent of the vote in the 693 counties with the highest rates of long-term opioid use.

All told, on a scale from zero to 100, where zero indicates no correlation and 100 indicates perfect correlation, the relationship between chronic opioid use and the 2016 presidential vote scored a 42.

Maps from the paper illustrating the raw rates of long-term opioid use and the 2016 Trump vote share at the county level illustrate some of the correlation. Certain areas of the country, including parts of the mountain West and a wide swath of Appalachia, stand out on both maps. There are some areas of discordance, however, including much of the northern plains (low opioid rates, high Trump support) and deep South (high opioid rates, low Trump support).

The numbers don't at all suggest that opioid use was a causal factor in the 2016 presidential vote. Rather, "individual and county-level socioeconomic measures explained much of the association between the presidential vote and opioid use," the report found. Those measures included income, disability coverage, insurance and unemployment rates.

Still, correcting for those factors didn't remove the relationship between the Trump vote and opioid use entirely. "Adjusting for county-level socioeconomic measures in linear regression models explained approximately two-thirds of the association of opioid rates and presidential voting rates," the authors write. That last third remains something of a mystery.

These findings dovetail with some other research that's come out since the election. A December 2016 study found, for instance, that "Trump over-performed the most in counties with the highest drug, alcohol and suicide mortality rates."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-republican-prescription-study-a8413081.html

Morons, psychopaths, racists, traitors, and drug addicts.

Explains a lot.
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It would take a junkie to think trump was a good choice for president.. It was the dumbest choice in American history.
 
Hillary sucked. That's why you lost. Blaming the opioid crisis is shameful. Fuck, you guys are almost as awful as the bigots you decry.
 
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