Trump "Hands off" protests fizzle rather than sizzle

[Into the Night]

Pictures don't lie, Sybil.

I am not you, Sybil.

So all the pictures you fabricate and all the memes against Democrats don't lie either, eh?

 

[Into the Night]

Count the legs.

That'll get you close, except for the paraplegic or in wheel chairs, missing a leg!

 

[AProudLefty]

I am not you, Sybil.

So all the pictures you fabricate and all the memes against Democrats don't lie either, eh?

Pivot fallacy.

 

[AProudLefty]

I'm not claiming an IQ, Sybil.

Wow. That's brutally honest. Kudos!

 

[Into the Night]

MAGAts aren't very good at math.

MAGA isn't a person, Sybil.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Math beats opinions by vested interests.

Yes, it does. And math that is based on your vested interests isn't really math.

When you fail to count the people on the cross street, you aren't doing math. You are doing propaganda.

 

[Into the Night]

Niiiiice flip-flop, Terry.

What flip-flop, Sybil?????? Looks like you're still hallucinating.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

 

[Dutch Uncle]

 

[Into the Night]

Expected turnout is not the same thing as actual turnout.

U.S. Rep. Yassamin Ansari, D-Phoenix, speaks to an estimated 3,000 people who gathered at the Arizona Capitol on April 5, 2025, to protest President Donald Trump and his administration.

Who should we believe? T.A who wasn't there or the FOX TV station that the protesters walked past?

Protesters take to the streets to rally against President Trump, Elon Musk nationwide and in Phoenix

Thousands of protesters were in Phoenix to rally against President Trump and Elon Musk's plans for federal programs and threats to democracy and individual rights.

www.fox10phoenix.com

What we know:


The streets of downtown Phoenix became a pathway for thousands of protesters telling President Trump and Elon Musk "Hands off" when it comes to plans to shutter some Social Security offices, National Park buildings and federal healthcare programs.


Who should we believe? T.A who wasn't there or a conservative National news source with video?

Thousands of protesters gather in Phoenix against Donald Trump and Elon Musk

Thousands of protesters exercised their First Amendment rights in protest of President Donald Trump and Elon Musk on April 5, 2025.

www.usatoday.com

Thousands of protesters exercised their First Amendment rights in protest of President Donald Trump and Elon Musk on April 5, 2025.

It seems that T.A. has to convince himself that his delusions are real.

I draw a far bigger crowd at one of my fireworks displays on the 4th of July.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I'm not claiming an IQ, Sybil.

Honesty is refreshing, isn't it, Sybil?

 

[Into the Night]

Pivot fallacy.

Random phrase. No apparent coherency. Mimicry is the act of a little child, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, it does. And math that is based on your vested interests isn't really math.

When you fail to count the people on the cross street, you aren't doing math. You are doing propaganda.

What 'cross streets'????
You're reaching, Poorboy.

 

[Into the Night]

Honesty is refreshing, isn't it, Sybil?

I am not you, Sybil. The last thing you are is honest.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I've been noticing this more and more. The cameras have to use closeups to make the tiny crowd seem bigger than it really is.

And the ones that do show up are often paid. That's why you find some of them traveling from State to State (or from the SDTC into the States).

Exactly. Doesn't stop them from becoming violent though, which will happen more as the weather improves. (It will probably die down a bit in AZ, due to the hot summers you have there!)

Migrating like snowbirds.

I don't know if they're paid or not, but I do know when you look over the crowd size, and use Google maps, etc., to estimate the size of the area they are in you can make a reasonable estimate of the crowd size by using 1 to 2 square yards per person. You can go down to about .25 square yards for a dense--close to shoulder to shoulder--crowd. That's about an 18" square area for one person.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/2058802X.2019.1594138

The Simple Math behind Crunching the Sizes of Crowds

How large was the crowd at the recent U.S. presidential inauguration? Or the inauguration eight years ago? Keep on reading to find out how crowd sizes are estimated

www.scientificamerican.com

Crowd Science and Crowd Counting

Crowd Science and Crowd Counting

www.academia.edu

Event organizers will almost always overestimate, often very badly overestimate, crowd size. They have an incentive to do so since a larger crowd equals greater appeal to what the event was doing.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Niiiiice flip-flop, Terry.

Hundreds can mean anything up to less than 2000 you tard. If the crowd were bigger than 2000 you could use thousands (more than 2 thousands) as that is plural (more than one and with thousands that means more than 2000). One thousand plus a few hundreds is still hundreds, not thousands.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hundreds can mean anything up to less than 2000 you tard. If the crowd were bigger than 2000 you could use thousands (more than 2 thousands) as that is plural (more than one and with thousands that means more than 2000). One thousand plus a few hundreds is still hundreds, not thousands.

No worries, Terry. You're free to deny walking back your claims.

 

[AProudLefty]

MAGA isn't a person, Sybil.

No shit, Sherlock?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I draw a far bigger crowd at one of my fireworks displays on the 4th of July.

Do you draw your crowd with crayons?