Trump will never win over most Jewish voters... OPEN THREAD

Dutch Uncle said:
Dude, you just described an out-of-the-box conspiracy theory.

How is this different than any other group of humans? One naked ape tribe seeking survival among thousands of others?
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How is that a conspiracy theory? In Jewish culture, in-group preference is seen as a positive, but the Nationalism of other peoples is seen as a negative because throughout history, foreign Nationalisms often led to a pogrom against the Jews. That's why Jews fight against Nationalism outside of Israel. Not only is this not a conspiracy, but it's pretty damn reasonable.
 
StoneByStone said:
How is that a conspiracy theory? In Jewish culture, in-group preference is seen as a positive, but the Nationalism of other peoples is seen as a negative because throughout history, foreign Nationalisms often led to a pogrom against the Jews. That's why Jews fight against Nationalism outside of Israel. Not only is this not a conspiracy, but it's pretty damn reasonable.
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At this point it's clear you and I don't agree on what defines a conspiracy theory. No matter. We've discussed this enough together that others can decide if you are an antisemitic conspiracy theorist, not one or something in between.

The "That's why Jews fight against Nationalism outside of Israel" comment is clearly bigoted. It's like saying "That's why white women are so stupid". Some are, most aren't. To broad brush women with such a comment is, indeed, stupid and bigoted.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
At this point it's clear you and I don't agree on what defines a conspiracy theory. No matter. We've discussed this enough together that others can decide if you are an antisemitic conspiracy theorist, not one or something in between.

The "That's why Jews fight against Nationalism outside of Israel" comment is clearly bigoted. It's like saying "That's why white women are so stupid". Some are, most aren't. To broad brush women with such a comment is, indeed, stupid and bigoted.
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Do you not believe there are certain ideas which are more common in certain cultures?
 
StoneByStone said:
Do you not believe there are certain ideas which are more common in certain cultures?
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Of course I do. The Flat Earth Society is still a thing, so is the KKK and White Supremacists. So are Black Supremacists, Islamic Jihadists, yada, yada, yada. Why wouldn't you believe in some off-the-wall Elders of Zion BS?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Of course I do. The Flat Earth Society is still a thing, so is the KKK and White Supremacists. So are Black Supremacists, Islamic Jihadists, yada, yada, yada. Why wouldn't you believe in some off-the-wall Elders of Zion BS?
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Well the Elders of Zion has been debunked. I don't even think it was supposed to be taken seriously, it reads like more of a satire of conspiracy theories about the Jews.
But the idea that Jewish culture celebrate in-group preferences while treats foreign Nationalisms as a negative thing, that seems pretty clear. Jews often admit it themselves. And if that's the case, is it so surprising that Jews use their vast wealth and power to cause Multiracialism in their host countries?

And really, doesn't everyone with influence do this to a degree?
 
StoneByStone said:
Well the Elders of Zion has been debunked. I don't even think it was supposed to be taken seriously, it reads like more of a satire of conspiracy theories about the Jews.
But the idea that Jewish culture celebrate in-group preferences while treats foreign Nationalisms as a negative thing, that seems pretty clear. Jews often admit it themselves. And if that's the case, is it so surprising that Jews use their vast wealth and power to cause Multiracialism in their host countries?

And really, doesn't everyone with influence do this to a degree?
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Yet you believe there is a vast, wide anti-white Jewish conspiracy.....despite the fact most Jews are white. Ooooh, the irony. LOL
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yet you believe there is a vast, wide anti-white Jewish conspiracy.....despite the fact most Jews are white. Ooooh, the irony. LOL
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No, I believe that Jews generally want the countries they live in (except for Israel) to become multiracial. Anti-white propaganda helps advance that goal. It's not a conspiracy, the international Jews don't all get together and plan out how to do this, it's just a common way of thinking in Jewish culture.

And no, Jews are not white.
 
StoneByStone said:
No, I believe that Jews generally want the countries they live in (except for Israel) to become multiracial. Anti-white propaganda helps advance that goal. It's not a conspiracy, the international Jews don't all get together and plan out how to do this, it's just a common way of thinking in Jewish culture.

And no, Jews are not white.
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Of course you believe that. That's the entire point I'm disagreeing about.
 
StoneByStone said:
But you understand how this isn't a conspiracy theory, right? If I'm 100% correct, then there's no conspiracy here. It's simply the result of Jewish culture.
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If you were 100% correct about the vast Jewish global conspiracy, then it'd be a conspiracy, not a "conspiracy theory". Kinda like assault rifle is a real thing but an assault weapon is just fabricated LW anti-gun bullshit.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
If you were 100% correct about the vast Jewish global conspiracy, then it'd be a conspiracy, not a "conspiracy theory". Kinda like assault rifle is a real thing but an assault weapon is just fabricated LW anti-gun bullshit.
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Wait.... tell me what you think a conspiracy is.
 
gfm7175 said:
Pulling this one out of the kiddie pool (even though I am not personally blocked from it) so that ALL voices can participate...

The OP in its entirety:
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Gumbo's OP link:
"My fellow Jews: Getting rid of Trump is a religious imperative"
https://forward.com/opinion/453886/my-fellow-jews-getting-rid-of-trump-is-a-religious-imperative/

Why? Because he's goy? Who are the Jews running to be president?

STFU b4 I smack you with mah ham sammich. @guno
Cannot even page people to threads here. :(

At least I can say most of the old things, though.
It's moar better than not. :dunno:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You don't know? That's probably the problem. Here, let me help you: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspiracy
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conspire
to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement
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Alright, so you do know. So why do you think what I'm describing is a conspiracy? There is no secret agreement, it's just an aspect of Jewish culture. And nothing I described is illegal. So where is the conspiracy?
 
StoneByStone said:
Alright, so you do know. So why do you think what I'm describing is a conspiracy? There is no secret agreement, it's just an aspect of Jewish culture. And nothing I described is illegal. So where is the conspiracy?
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Deja Vu. Do you really want me to repeat my last 4-5 posts talking about this?

Are you lonely? Is that it? If so, pick a different top. My favorite is guns, but you can pick whatever you like.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Deja Vu. Do you really want me to repeat my last 4-5 posts talking about this?

Are you lonely? Is that it? If so, pick a different top. My favorite is guns, but you can pick whatever you like.
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#deflection

Which part of what I said sounded like a secret agreement resulting in illegal activity?
 
StoneByStone said:
Alright, so you do know. So why do you think what I'm describing is a conspiracy? There is no secret agreement, it's just an aspect of Jewish culture. And nothing I described is illegal. So where is the conspiracy?
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yes. a conspiratorial aspect of jewish culture. they're paranoid and cliquey. in a mean girl way.
 
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