Two ways to fix our "Democracy"

kaz said:
Are you capable of a point other than ad homenim?

So you and your wife won't buy the three guys who out voted you for a dinner you're paying for are "anti-social lack of humanity" and "intense greed." Got it.

As for Trump, what are you smoking? I didn't say anything about Trump.

And I don't hate America, I just hate Democracy at the Federal level. It's mob rule by you the parasites, you keep demonstrating that. Also, I keep telling you that, moron.
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You are deluded, you are anti social, you are an oligarch, you are at least a racist sympathizer you are and elitist and you are quite insane.
None of that is ad hom... It is all based on the things you willingly say and can be easily observed.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
You are deluded, you are anti social, you are an oligarch, you are at least a racist sympathizer you are and elitist and you are quite insane.
None of that is ad hom... It is all based on the things you willingly say and can be easily observed.
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Everyone who disagrees with you is a "racist," that's comic at this point.

tell the truth, 911 has your number blocked, don't they?
 
kaz said:
Everyone who disagrees with you is a "racist," that's comic at this point.

tell the truth, 911 has your number blocked, don't they?
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No... anyone who says things that are consistent with what a racist would say is a racist in my opinion. I do not know you . All I know of you is what you say here.
It is not funny and I would much rather not have to point it out.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
No... anyone who says things that are consistent with what a racist would say is a racist in my opinion. I do not know you . All I know of you is what you say here.
It is not funny and I would much rather not have to point it out.
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You haven't pointed it out. What did I say that is "racist?" This should be good. Or it would be if your lame ass could ever back up anything you say
 
kaz said:
1) The simplest solution is to offer those who show up to the poll, with a valid ID, a choice between a ballot and a $100 bill. The leeches will self select the $100 not grasping their vote would suck so much more out of productive Americans who pay the bills. And how many people who can't produce an ID will figure out a way to produce an ID...

2) The best answer, but more complicated, is that no one who is living on a government check of other people's money, like Social Security, should be able to vote. The people who pay the bills should decide what other people get of their money, people should not be able to decide what they get when it's confiscated with force from others
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So you don't believe that the ones on SS paid any money into SS and are just living off of others money?
 
kaz said:
1) The simplest solution is to offer those who show up to the poll, with a valid ID, a choice between a ballot and a $100 bill. The leeches will self select the $100 not grasping their vote would suck so much more out of productive Americans who pay the bills. And how many people who can't produce an ID will figure out a way to produce an ID...

2) The best answer, but more complicated, is that no one who is living on a government check of other people's money, like Social Security, should be able to vote. The people who pay the bills should decide what other people get of their money, people should not be able to decide what they get when it's confiscated with force from others
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where does the funding for SS come from?


you seem to not know

also why no mention of all he corporate subsidies


are you fine with those ?


you hate poor people and want policies that make more people poor.


have you always hated the people around you?


when did his hate and distrust of all human enter your life?


who burdened you like this?
 
evince said:
where does the funding for SS come from?


you seem to not know

also why no mention of all he corporate subsidies


are you fine with those ?


you hate poor people and want policies that make more people poor.


have you always hated the people around you?


when did his hate and distrust of all human enter your life?


who burdened you like this?
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You are projecting again

Here is a question for you. If a person burns through what they put into Social Security should payments stop?
 
kaz said:
You haven't pointed it out. What did I say that is "racist?" This should be good. Or it would be if your lame ass could ever back up anything you say
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The "racist" label is the clueless brain-dead leftist only argument. When they have no idea to support their total ignorance, they shout "RACIST!"
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So you don't believe that the ones on SS paid any money into SS and are just living off of others money?
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No, and it's not a belief it's a fact. There is no such thing as having "paid into SS" any more than there is "paying into" the Federal government when you pay income tax. In both the case of income taxes and social security, you pay taxes and government spends them. Nothing was saved.

Don't tell me you believe the politician's lie there is a "trust fund" when there are no assets, do you? Loaning yourself money isn't an asset
 
Robo said:
Where does the authority for Federal Socialist Insecurity come from?

Article or Amendment from the text of the Constitution please.
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Yes, Social Security is a clear violation of the 10th amendment. I point that out all the time. Nice to see someone else gets that
 
kaz said:
No, and it's not a belief it's a fact. There is no such thing as having "paid into SS" any more than there is "paying into" the Federal government when you pay income tax. In both the case of income taxes and social security, you pay taxes and government spends them. Nothing was saved.

Don't tell me you believe the politician's lie there is a "trust fund" when there are no assets, do you? Loaning yourself money isn't an asset
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So when I get the silly little tax form and it shows the amount I've paid into SS, it doesn't mean I've paid into SS??

:dunno:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So when I get the silly little tax form and it shows the amount I've paid into SS, it doesn't mean I've paid into SS??

:dunno:
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It means government spent the money. So there is no money. I didn't say you didn't pay, I said it's a tax like any other tax. Government takes the money, government spends it. Here's the trick to a trust fund. It needs to have assets in it to be an actual trust fund.

Where does government get the money to pay social security? - Today's taxpayers

Where does government get the money to pay other welfare programs? - Today's taxpayers


You see the difference? I don't
 
kaz said:
It means government spent the money. So there is no money. I didn't say you didn't pay, I said it's a tax like any other tax. Government takes the money, government spends it. Here's the trick to a trust fund. It needs to have assets in it to be an actual trust fund.

Where does government get the money to pay social security? - Today's taxpayers

Where does government get the money to pay other welfare programs? - Today's taxpayers


You see the difference? I don't
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I paid into SS and it's my money to use, under the SS guidelines.
It does have assets.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I paid into SS and it's my money to use, under the SS guidelines.
It does have assets.
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OK. Focus. You paid money "into SS." The government spent the money on the same things they spend every other tax on. There is no money. Government goes and takes money from someone else and gives it to you. It's wealth redistribution just like any other welfare plan.

Explain how if government is taking my money and giving it to you, it's different than when government takes my money and gives it to another welfare recipient.

Maybe you should have objected when you were paying money to government and they were spending it. But you didn't save anything and government's just taking the money from your children and grandchildren to fund your check.

You can not like reality, but that is reality
 
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