Voting machines recording Republican when Dem is selected

[evince]

Thats not the point. point is people click on obama and Mccain goes into the system... and the system happens to come from a company that a prominent republican was the ceo of.

surely you can see a problem with that.

No he wont.

some dont care as long as their team wins

 

[KingCondanomation]

Do you understand what happened with the chads?


So many people voted that they did not empty the chad boxes often enough.

So in the boxes had stacks of chads under the most popular candidates.

They would push the pin in as far as it would go and think they had marked it correctly.

The voter did nothing wrong.

with the electronic machines they dont have to do anything wrong either.

I cant believe there are so many republican americans who dont give a rats ass about wether our democracy is being subverted as long as their team is winning.

You guys suck.

First let's get some things straight. Voting irregularities happened all over for years. No one gave a shit on either side until a close election came in Florida.
THEN you gave a shit.
Second, the voting methods and choice on how to vote were decided by LOCAL election officials, which in Dem majority areas meant Dem officials, like Theresa Lepore who designed the butterfly ballot. So no one worked against you.
Third, I do care but you are as always unable to put anything in context, there will ALWAYS be some problems with ANY method, overall it works well. It's good to mention the problems so they can be fixed but you only mention ONE side's problems.

 

[KingCondanomation]

Thats not the point. point is people click on obama and Mccain goes into the system... and the system happens to come from a company that a prominent republican was the ceo of.

surely you can see a problem with that.

It was a joke. You know in Liberal Dem majority areas there is high crime so you put your hands in the air when being robbed.
Sheesh.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

It was a joke. You know in Liberal Dem majority areas there is high crime

Yet places like New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine have much lower crime than absolute conservative fortresses like Mississippi. Ever though, maybe, just maybe, it has to do with rural vs. urban areas? Think that might make the difference?

Nah, that's crazy-ass talk.

 

[Damocles]

The optical scanner can be fucked with too.

Hence the testing and certification process.

The assumption that they can magically change things without getting past the seals is preposterous. Also the capacity for all 10 Judges there to pass out while they started opening it to get at the hardware they'd have to swap out is very limited.

People are there from both parties during the entire process. It gets silly constantly speaking of good ways to keep the vote without having to resort to questionable hand counting with psychic determination.

 

[ib1yysguy]

Hence the testing and certification process.

The assumption that they can magically change things without getting past the seals is preposterous. Also the capacity for all 10 Judges there to pass out while they started opening it to get at the hardware they'd have to swap out, is very limited.

It was prove that it can all be done only by accessing the flash cards used to store the votes and by pre-rigging them with a simple program to swap votes.

 

[Damocles]

It was prove that it can all be done only by accessing the flash cards used to store the votes and by pre-rigging them with a simple program to swap votes.

Only on specific machines. Again, the machines are certified because they are not among those that were vulnerable, or the vulnerabilities have been fixed by upgrades to the machinery.

In order to change the upgraded scanners you must have access to the insides, in order to get there you must break seals that are placed by the certification process and must be maintained.

Seriously, to get this done even by the previous process you'd have to have judges that didn't know what they were watching, that didn't have the capacity to understand that something was fishy about what you were doing or that somehow had all fallen asleep at the same time.

 

[evince]

Hence the testing and certification process.

The assumption that they can magically change things without getting past the seals is preposterous. Also the capacity for all 10 Judges there to pass out while they started opening it to get at the hardware they'd have to swap out is very limited.

People are there from both parties during the entire process. It gets silly constantly speaking of good ways to keep the vote without having to resort to questionable hand counting with psychic determination.

Your state has purged 1 in five voters

 

[ib1yysguy]

I remember Dibold claiming first these machines weren't vulnerable, then that they fixed the vulnerability, then the test that proved they were still vulnerable happened. What makes you think the vulnerability really has been fixed?

 

[evince]

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/ne...s-colorado-5-other-states-may-vi/?partner=RSS

 

[Damocles]

Your state has purged 1 in five voters

Again, how many were found to be illegal? What irregularities were reported other than you trying to repeat that they were "purged"...

 

[Damocles]

From your own story, Desh.

The Times said voters appear to have been purged by mistake and not because of any intentional violations by election officials or coordinated efforts by any party.

States have been trying to follow the Help America Vote Act of 2002 by removing the names of voters who should no longer be listed. But for every voter added to the rolls in the past two months in some states, election officials have removed two, a review of the records shows.

It also did not state exactly who had purged what. There was nothing in the story about Colorado purging 1 in 5, for instance.

Recently a judge ruled that those purged in CO in the 90 day period because they were dead was not just legal, but proper. I note you don't post that story...

Did you just make up the 1 in 5 number?

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Funny thing is its always flipping from Dem to R and I have yet to see it go the other way.

it's called acron.

 

[uscitizen]

Hence the testing and certification process.

The assumption that they can magically change things without getting past the seals is preposterous. Also the capacity for all 10 Judges there to pass out while they started opening it to get at the hardware they'd have to swap out is very limited.

People are there from both parties during the entire process. It gets silly constantly speaking of good ways to keep the vote without having to resort to questionable hand counting with psychic determination.

do you know anything about programming Damo ?

If McCain less than Obama And voter counter => 1000 and date = 2008/11/04 then select McCain. Kinda like that. software is handy stuff.

 

[KingCondanomation]

Yet places like New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine have much lower crime than absolute conservative fortresses like Mississippi. Ever though, maybe, just maybe, it has to do with rural vs. urban areas? Think that might make the difference?

Nah, that's crazy-ass talk.

I WAS talking about (more Liberal) cities versus (more Conservative) rural areas. You are the one who mistook it for talking about comparing more macro fuzzy data like states.

Rural areas have far more gun owners, more Conservative values, respect for the law and more businesses and home/property owners. Cities that fit more in that mold like Phoenix, Salt Lake City, tend to have lower crime than Liberal cities like Detroit, Chicago, DC, etc...

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

It was a joke. You know in Liberal Dem majority areas there is high crime so you put your hands in the air when being robbed.
Sheesh.

i interpreted it as trying to get a handout.

 

[evince]

Nope it was from a rolling stone article arround oct 9th.


Its hard to figure out all of the stories because their are so damn many of them.

Like the ACORN bullshit in my state which is going to be an important state this time arround.

Maybe the Colorado one is smaller than originally thought , Im not going to trust any of this shit until their is a full investigation fo our voting system.

Did your guy break the law for purging to close to the election?

 

[evince]

it's called acron.

I think you mean ACORN and no it has never been about vote fraud or purging.

 

[Damocles]

do you know anything about programming Damo ?

If McCain less than Obama And voter counter => 1000 and date = 2008/11/04 then select McCain. Kinda like that. software is handy stuff.

uscit, what part of paper tracking makes that difficult to play?

 

[Damocles]

Nope it was from a rolling stone article arround oct 9th.


Its hard to figure out all of the stories because their are so damn many of them.

Like the ACORN bullshit in my state which is going to be an important state this time arround.

Maybe the Colorado one is smaller than originally thought , Im not going to trust any of this shit until their is a full investigation fo our voting system.

Did your guy break the law for purging to close to the election?

Nope. Coffman did right by the people here. He was investigated for it, but it was found, as the law states, that he only purged those who had died during that period.

The story doesn't cover a ton of stuff, it never specifies and specifically by using generalities tries to scare you. Then later they never cover what really happened and you get people who think they've been scammed.