Bai Lan
Let It Rot
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What is hell?
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Gospel of Matthew.
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
doubtful.
In Christianity, the "outer darkness" is a place referred to three times in the Gospel of Matthew (8:12, 22:13, and 25:30) into which a person may be "cast out", and where there is "weeping and gnashing of teeth". Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_darkness
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
did jesus say it?
even in your quote it's questionable whether it's "hell" or not.
hell is a made up concept from the middle ages.
you do christianity a disservice by accepting these sloppy categories and playing a long.
Dutch Uncle
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Don't expect MAGAt contrarians to agree with you. They're very big on emotion and disregard facts that do not agree with their views.
Typical MAGA debate tactic : Attempting to change the question you originally asked, rather than admit you were wrong.
You didn't ask if the gospel authors quoted Jesus accurately, or interpreted him correctly.
You asked where Jesus mentioned the outer darkness, and then you doubted me when I told you it was Gospel of Matthew.
Dutch Uncle
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In Fredo's defense, he has bigger mental issues than the typical JPP MAGAt dementia. He does, however, seem to share their loneliness.
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
Dutch Uncle
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Disagreed. Religions grow and are not created out of whole cloth.
Didn't the Vikings believe thunder was Thor's hammer? Lots of primitive people, meaning lacking science and education, believe superstitious thoughts.
Scott
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Me: when things are bad. In terms of where the idea of a place called hell came from, I've heard that the original "hell" was actually in Greece, prior Christianity. Read this from a book called The Jesus Papers. Wikipedia has an entry on the book, though it makes no mention of the bit where he gets into the origins of hell (to be fair, it wasn't the main focus of the book either):
The Jesus Papers - Wikipedia
Daylight63
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So who comes up with the religion? Last I checked 100% (every.single.religion) was created by humans.
WIth the exception of people like you who have died and gone to heaven and come back, no one knows anything about what happens after you die which means
They are all made up out of whole cloth. By definition.
Dutch Uncle
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No worries, Perry. I know you aren't very insightful much less educated.
Daylight63
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So where do you think religions come from? I'm genuinely curious. Do you think the magic unicorns you met when you had your "NDE" are the ones who created religion?
Imagine...an ADULT who thinks he died even though he wasn't near death. Seriously...who comes up with your stuff? It's fuckin' hilarious!
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
lol, I hardly ever read or respond to Crypuss and he makes the same claim about me
"investing considerable time and effort reading and responding" to his posts.
Daylight63
Verified User
It is exceedingly important to @Cypress for everyone to:
1. Realize he is the smartest person in the room at all times
2. Be obsessed with him if they bother to ask him two questions in a row (questions he never answers)
3. Be angry. This is usually only after someone has pointed out that he isn't capable of discussing the topic rationally.
I actually like his posts because he finds some interesting topics in his wanders through Wikipedia. But I always get annoyed that we can't discuss the topic. Cypress always has to turn it into a bitchfest and when his only friend, Dutch, shows up it goes to hell fast.
But I'm also willing to give as good as I get. It's nothing, though. In reality Cy is clearly not what he claims and Dutch is a toxic waste of human sperm and pretty easy to dismiss out of hand.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
Spot on. He's changed a bit since that post by BRUTALITOPS several years ago.
No such thing as a rational discussion w/ Dutch. Well, maybe in Owl's thread where they talk about the weather and how their tomatoes are doing in their greenhouses. Or whatever they talk about. I only look in there once a month or so. It intrigues me how these lonely hermits need the interwebs to substitute real life interaction.
To his credit I haven't seen him claim anything about himself other than how enlightened he is for being poor.
Now THAT'S someone who is clearly not what he claims to be.