What some of Trump’s former legal defenders are saying

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Alan Dershowitz, emeritus professor of law at Harvard: “It is the kind of evidence every defense lawyer dreads and every prosecutor dreams about” (referring to the audio recording of Trump boasting of unlawful possession of highly classified documents).

Jonathan Turley, Fox News legal analyst: “Some of the evidence comes from his former counsel, and these are very damaging statements” (referring to notes made by one of his lawyers in which Trump plots to obstruct a government subpoena). “All the government has to do is stick the landing on one count, and he could have a terminal sentence.”

Bill Barr, former Attorney General: “It’s a very detailed indictment, and it’s very, very damning.” He notes that Trump held on to and possibly shared vital national secrets — including Pentagon planning documents for a potential attack on Iran — in a way that “anyone who really cares about national security, your stomach would churn at.”

Pomo Profit, JPP legal authority:
“There's nothing at all credible from the left any more ... everything you say is shit.”
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Nothing is classified if Trump says it isn’t

There is no case here
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That is factually inaccurate as proven by Trump and his White House lawyers and Mark Meadows in the only 3 precedent cases that exist in this general area of law.

In all 3 instances Trump had stated in Tv interview (words) and on Twitter (official writings) that certain doc's had been declassified by him.

In all 3 instances the Media said, 'ok good. Since you declassified them, we want to see them. Here is a FOIA request. Hand them over'.

In all 3 instances the Trump White House, supported by Trump, argued in court, Trump words on TV or Trump official Writings (twitter) are NOT sufficient to declassify anything. That a second REQUIRED step is needed where Trump instructs the agencies responsible to take the steps to actually declassify them and since Trump HAD NOT done that in any of these 3 cases, they remained classified.

In all 3 cases the Judges agree with the Trump Team arguments and denied the media the documents which remained classified.


- James Madison Project v. U.S. Dep't of Justice
- LEOPOLD et al v. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE et al, No. 1:2019cv01278 - Document 86 (D.D.C. 2020)
- The New York Times, et al., v. Central Intelligence Agency
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Alan Dershowitz, emeritus professor of law at Harvard: “It is the kind of evidence every defense lawyer dreads and every prosecutor dreams about” (referring to the audio recording of Trump boasting of unlawful possession of highly classified documents).

Jonathan Turley, Fox News legal analyst: “Some of the evidence comes from his former counsel, and these are very damaging statements” (referring to notes made by one of his lawyers in which Trump plots to obstruct a government subpoena). “All the government has to do is stick the landing on one count, and he could have a terminal sentence.”

Bill Barr, former Attorney General: “It’s a very detailed indictment, and it’s very, very damning.” He notes that Trump held on to and possibly shared vital national secrets — including Pentagon planning documents for a potential attack on Iran — in a way that “anyone who really cares about national security, your stomach would churn at.”

Pomo Profit, JPP legal authority:
“There's nothing at all credible from the left any more ... everything you say is shit.”
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He has up to 12 years to decide what's a private record and what's a presidential record.
 
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QP! said:
That is factually inaccurate as proven by Trump and his White House lawyers and Mark Meadows in the only 3 precedent cases that exist in this general area of law.

In all 3 instances Trump had stated in Tv interview (words) and on Twitter (official writings) that certain doc's had been declassified by him.

In all 3 instances the Media said, 'ok good. Since you declassified them, we want to see them. Here is a FOIA request. Hand them over'.

In all 3 instances the Trump White House, supported by Trump, argued in court, Trump words on TV or Trump official Writings (twitter) are NOT sufficient to declassify anything. That a second REQUIRED step is needed where Trump instructs the agencies responsible to take the steps to actually declassify them and since Trump HAD NOT done that in any of these 3 cases, they remained classified.

In all 3 cases the Judges agree with the Trump Team arguments and denied the media the documents which remained classified.


- James Madison Project v. U.S. Dep't of Justice
- LEOPOLD et al v. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE et al, No. 1:2019cv01278 - Document 86 (D.D.C. 2020)
- The New York Times, et al., v. Central Intelligence Agency
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Once Trump takes them they become his private property so nobody can request them
 
Nordberg said:
That is simply not true. You are unable to process information. But you do swallow Trump's lies.
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Up to 12 years to decide what's a private record and what's a presidential record. Learn to read and the actually think. You're exactly the kind of person Rod Serling was taking about on that other thread.
 
Yakuda said:
He has up to 12 years to decide what's a private record and what's a presidential record.
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But Biden doesn’t?

Let’s remember


Your claim is a president can just “think” a document declassified


That means you need to shut the fuck up about anything Biden had huh dick face
 
Biden can tell the court he just “thinks” trump documents are now classified


Get it you stupid fucks
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Once Trump takes them they become his private property so nobody can request them
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That is false as proven in those cases where Trump had control of the doc's he spoke about, at various points.


Beyond that do you understand that what Trump and others get are copies. At any given time what Trump holds would be one of 12 or more copies of the same doc being reviewed by many other individuals. So stretch your logic out, and the minute Trump takes them, all the other people can then share their copies with anyone as Trump automatically declassified them, by taking them.

Do you understand how asinine that is? How stupid that is?
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Doesn’t matter what Trump says it matters what the law says and there is no declassification process dictated by law
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Factually wrong as argued by Trump when he sent his own Wh lawyers and Mark Meadows in to argue THERE IS A REQUIRED PROCESS and if that process DOES NOT happen then nothing is declassified.

Again

That is factually inaccurate as proven by Trump and his White House lawyers and Mark Meadows in the only 3 precedent cases that exist in this general area of law.

In all 3 instances Trump had stated in Tv interview (words) and on Twitter (official writings) that certain doc's had been declassified by him.

In all 3 instances the Media said, 'ok good. Since you declassified them, we want to see them. Here is a FOIA request. Hand them over'.

In all 3 instances the Trump White House, supported by Trump, argued in court, Trump words on TV or Trump official Writings (twitter) are NOT sufficient to declassify anything. That a second REQUIRED step is needed where Trump instructs the agencies responsible to take the steps to actually declassify them and since Trump HAD NOT done that in any of these 3 cases, they remained classified.

In all 3 cases the Judges agree with the Trump Team arguments and denied the media the documents which remained classified.


- James Madison Project v. U.S. Dep't of Justice
- LEOPOLD et al v. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE et al, No. 1:2019cv01278 - Document 86 (D.D.C. 2020)
- The New York Times, et al., v. Central Intelligence Agency
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Tinkerpeach said:
Nothing is classified if Trump says it isn’t

There is no case here
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Gods, the stupid. He ADMITTED openly that the materials were still classified. He showed them to unauthorized people as well as stating, as he did so, that they were still secret. That's out of your #MalignantMango's own anus-shaped piehole, Stinkerbelle. Are you calling your god a liar?
 
QP! said:
That is factually inaccurate as proven by Trump and his White House lawyers and Mark Meadows in the only 3 precedent cases that exist in this general area of law.

In all 3 instances Trump had stated in Tv interview (words) and on Twitter (official writings) that certain doc's had been declassified by him.

In all 3 instances the Media said, 'ok good. Since you declassified them, we want to see them. Here is a FOIA request. Hand them over'.

In all 3 instances the Trump White House, supported by Trump, argued in court, Trump words on TV or Trump official Writings (twitter) are NOT sufficient to declassify anything. That a second REQUIRED step is needed where Trump instructs the agencies responsible to take the steps to actually declassify them and since Trump HAD NOT done that in any of these 3 cases, they remained classified.

In all 3 cases the Judges agree with the Trump Team arguments and denied the media the documents which remained classified.


- James Madison Project v. U.S. Dep't of Justice
- LEOPOLD et al v. U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE et al, No. 1:2019cv01278 - Document 86 (D.D.C. 2020)
- The New York Times, et al., v. Central Intelligence Agency
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:hand: :hand: :hand:

I can hardly wait to hear the twink's rebuttal to your devastating post.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
Once Trump takes them they become his private property so nobody can request them
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Where did you get your law degree, Trump U? :laugh:
 
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