What some of Trump’s former legal defenders are saying

[Guno צְבִי]

Even if that were true, that the president "only took copies", please post your evidence of that. You can't just say stuff without proof. Also, if they were just copies, why was our National Archives screaming for them back for 18 months?

Sista stench isn't playing with a full deck

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Even if that were true, that the president "only took copies", please post your evidence of that. You can't just say stuff without proof. Also, if they were just copies, why was our National Archives screaming for them back for 18 months?

They weren’t, that’s a story made up by the democrats

 

[BidenPresident]

They weren’t, that’s a story made up by the democrats

Dude, give it up.

 

[BidenPresident]

The espionage act is a wartime policy, it has no relevance here

You are almost 99% uninformed.

 

[Nordberg]

Doesn’t matter what Trump says it matters what the law says and there is no declassification process dictated by law

Of course, there is. https://dornsife.usc.edu/news/stori... uses three,could damage U.S. national securi

 

[LurchAddams]

Sista stench isn't playing with a full deck

I think what it is is that some of the trump voters hear stuff from pundits on Fox News or read something in a right-wing blog and just parrot it without checking it out.

 

[LurchAddams]

They weren’t, that’s a story made up by the democrats

Whoa! You really do just say stuff you've heard in right-wing blogs or read from your crazy relative's email chain.

Here's proof of the timeline.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/doj-investigation-trump-documents-timeline/index.html

"May 2021
An official from the National Archives and Records Administration contacts Trump’s team after realizing that several important documents weren’t handed over before Trump left the White House. In hopes of locating the missing items, NARA lawyer Gary Stern reaches out to someone who served in the White House counsel’s office under Trump, who was the point of contact for recordkeeping matters. The missing documents include some of Trump’s correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, as well as the map of Hurricane Dorian that Trump infamously altered with a sharpie pen."

Now - you show us proof of your "just took copies" claim. Where did you get that?

 

[Matt Dillon]

Gods, the stupid. He ADMITTED openly that the materials were still classified. He showed them to unauthorized people as well as stating, as he did so, that they were still secret. That's out of your #MalignantMango's own anus-shaped piehole, Stinkerbelle. Are you calling your god a liar?

It was White House staff.

So you prefer #MalignantMango over #TheOrangeShitgibbon?

 

[Matt Dillon]

You are almost 99% uninformed.

Actually that part is true.

 

[Matt Dillon]

The espionage act is a wartime policy, it has no relevance here

That's a fact.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

The espionage act is a wartime policy, it has no relevance here

So why is Trump being charged under the Espionage Act?

The Act criminalises the mishandling of government records relating to the national defense of the US.

The part of the law referenced in Mr Trump's case - 18 US Code 793 (e) - does not say that the suspect must be working with another country to deliberately harm the US. It says that it is a crime to have "unauthorized possession of or control over information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States ... and to wilfully retain it while failing "to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it."

Under the law, prosecutors will not be required to prove that Mr Trump knew that the information he possessed could harm national security, but rather that any reasonable person would understand the harm it could do. They will instead focus on Mr Trump's efforts to retain the information, even after being given multiple opportunities to surrender it to authorities.

The Espionage Act has been employed by the Justice Department against whistle-blowers like Daniel Ellsberg and Edward Snowden. Julian Assange was charged under the Act. About a dozen criminal prosecutions have been held since 2018 for illegal retention of national security documents under the Act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65910903

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Whoa! You really do just say stuff you've heard in right-wing blogs or read from your crazy relative's email chain.

Here's proof of the timeline.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/09/politics/doj-investigation-trump-documents-timeline/index.html

"May 2021
An official from the National Archives and Records Administration contacts Trump’s team after realizing that several important documents weren’t handed over before Trump left the White House. In hopes of locating the missing items, NARA lawyer Gary Stern reaches out to someone who served in the White House counsel’s office under Trump, who was the point of contact for recordkeeping matters. The missing documents include some of Trump’s correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, as well as the map of Hurricane Dorian that Trump infamously altered with a sharpie pen."

Now - you show us proof of your "just took copies" claim. Where did you get that?

CNN lies all the time

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

CNN lies all the time

Like this?

Lest you wail that this is fake:

Fox News says it ‘addressed’ onscreen message that called Biden a ‘wannabe dictator’

 

[QP!]

He didn’t take any documents when he was out of office

But he kept them when he was not POTUS in defiance of the PRA.

From the PRA statutes...

- "Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office."

 

[Nordberg]

CNN lies all the time

No, they do not. Even you do not lie all the time, although you come close.

 

[LurchAddams]

CNN lies all the time

Ok, you got nothing.