When DEMOCRATS call for higher taxes, who do they want to pay them?

[CFM]

The easiest way to pay more taxes, of course, is just to send in the money. You can write a check and send it to the IRS.

Or if you're more worried about the debt, you can send the check to the U.S. Treasury (Gifts to the Treasury).

So I've got a proposal. Whenever someone says they want their taxes to be raised, ask them how much they are willing to pay, and ask for proof that they've led by example.


http://tinyurl.com/yxctbf4a

Just today, one of the usual left wing idiots made the claim of "I'd gladly pay more in taxes if it went for (fill in the blank)". What's stopping them from voluntarily paying for it personally?

The same question should be asked of them when they say "refugees" should be allowed in the country.

 

[CFM]

No, I said it would be better than what we have now, but we can do better than that. We should lower taxes on the working-class and raise taxes on the rich.

Half of individuals making an income don't pay income taxes. Many get more back in a refund than they paid in through things like the EITC. How much lower can it go on someone paying nothing?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

And the amount of money the working-class saved wasn't much.

/shrugs......they saved it all......can't help it if they weren't paying much......do you really think we should reduce taxes to LESS than zero?.......

 

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I have repeatedly asked JPP leftists that question and they always run away

What is really puzzling is that leftists always proclaim that they want to raise taxes on the rich. Well Trump did just that by eliminating SALT tax deductions and leftists are shitting their pants. I mean the only people being affected are people who pay more than $10,000 a year in property taxes. And surely poor people can’t afford enough house to pay $10,000 in property taxes.

Not true, the Blue States are already paying for a lot of Red States, all Trump did was increase their contributions, that is what they complaining about

And to even think Trump taxed the rich is inane, as he told his buddies in Florida, "I just made you guys a lot of money"

 

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Half of individuals making an income don't pay income taxes. Many get more back in a refund than they paid in through things like the EITC. How much lower can it go on someone paying nothing?

Yeah, some poor schmuck knocking off twenty four grand a year with four kids paying State and Local Taxes should shell out more to make conservatives feel happy

 

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So the working class shouldnt pay thier fair share

All ready are, and in proportion to the rich, a lot more

 

[StoneByStone]

/shrugs......they saved it all......can't help it if they weren't paying much......do you really think we should reduce taxes to LESS than zero?.......

I think in addition to having low taxes for the working-class, we should have universal basic income and social programs like free health care.
Trump lowering taxes (for everyone, not just the working-class) but not doing much else, is doing the bare minimum and then using that as an excuse to not do more.

 

[CFM]

Yeah, some poor schmuck knocking off twenty four grand a year with four kids paying State and Local Taxes should shell out more to make conservatives feel happy

That schmuck should work on bettering his skills instead of making babies for the rest of us to support.

That schmuck isn't paying income taxes. Why does he benefit from society if he isn't paying his fair share?

 

[CFM]

I think in addition to having low taxes for the working-class, we should have universal basic income and social programs like free health care.
Trump lowering taxes (for everyone, not just the working-class) but not doing much else, is doing the bare minimum and then using that as an excuse to not do more.

If you don't have skills to earn a basic income, you should work on your skills. If you aren't willing to provide yourself healthcare, you should get sick and suffer.

 

[StoneByStone]

If you don't have skills to earn a basic income, you should work on your skills. If you aren't willing to provide yourself healthcare, you should get sick and suffer.

If you like compassion, then clearly logic won't change your mind. But if universal basic income and universal health care are good for the economy, if they benefit everyone including the rich, why shouldn't we have them?

 

[CFM]

If you like compassion, then clearly logic won't change your mind. But if universal basic income and universal health care are good for the economy, if they benefit everyone including the rich, why shouldn't we have them?

I don't have compassion for people unwilling to do for themselves what they should be doing for themselves. It's not the government's place, by taxing someone else, to provide for people unwilling to do even the basic things in life for themselves.

Universal basic income and healthcare don't benefit everyone. Those that end up doing the paying for those unwilling to provide for themselves don't get back to the level they are required to put in. We'd be better off without them so the honorable people can move on and not constantly have beggars nipping at their ankles.

 

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If you don't have skills to earn a basic income, you should work on your skills. If you aren't willing to provide yourself healthcare, you should get sick and suffer.

Or, flood ER rooms driving up hospital and health care costs that we wind up paying for in increased insurance costs

And I guess the Judeo-Christian principles the Nation is supposedly based upon are now thrown out the window

 

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Not true, the Blue States are already paying for a lot of Red States, all Trump did was increase their contributions, that is what they complaining about

And to even think Trump taxed the rich is inane, as he told his buddies in Florida, "I just made you guys a lot of money"

So poor people are paying $19,000 a year in property taxes?

Sorry we aren’t subsidizing the blue states anymore. Many didn’t know that was going on

Tell the blue states to lower their taxes.

Trump really fucked the blue states by eliminating SALT. I fucking love it beeeyotch

 

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I don't have compassion for people unwilling to do for themselves what they should be doing for themselves. It's not the government's place, by taxing someone else, to provide for people unwilling to do even the basic things in life for themselves.

Universal basic income and healthcare don't benefit everyone. Those that end up doing the paying for those unwilling to provide for themselves don't get back to the level they are required to put in. We'd be better off without them so the honorable people can move on and not constantly have beggars nipping at their ankles.

"the honorable people?"

Now are all these flood insurance subsidies Americans pay for Florida and such be eliminated also? Should the mortgage interest deduction enjoyed by Americans with property, especially people with vacation and seasonal homes, be eliminated? Do you think that Corporations, who the Roberts Court implied were people, pay the same income tax the average American people pay? How about farmers, many of them corporate farmers, getting subsides to grow or not grow certain crops? Etc., etc., etc.

The Gov't taxes a lot of people to provide services for others who can pay for those services on their own, now, are the people receiving such "honorable people?"

 

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So poor people are paying $19,000 a year in property taxes?

Sorry we aren’t subsidizing the blue states anymore. Many didn’t know that was going on

Tell the blue states to lower their taxes.

Trump really fucked the blue states by eliminating SALT. I fucking love it beeeyotch

You never subsidized the Blue States, just the opposite, many Red States, usually the most conservative, can't keep their States afloat without the tax money coming in from the Blue States, fact

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/359669-red-state-lawmakers-find-blue-state-piggy-bank

Always interesting when conservatives criticize taxes while they feed on the Gov't tit that others pay for in tax

 

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You never subsidized the Blue States, just the opposite, many Red States, usually the most conservative, can't keep their States afloat without the tax money coming in from the Blue States, fact

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ate-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/359669-red-state-lawmakers-find-blue-state-piggy-bank

Always interesting when conservatives criticize taxes while they feed on the Gov't tit that others pay for in tax

Nope. SALT taxes allowed blue states to pass their high tax burden off onto the rest of the country.

Very slick scam. Trump stopped it

I always wondered why leftists in those states didn’t scream about high property and state income taxes and this is why. They paid the state and then wrote it off on their federal returns. The blue states were fucking the rest of the country on that deal. Now it ends. Fuck you if you don’t like it. Eat shit. Pay your state taxes. You wanted them.

 

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Nope. SALT taxes allowed blue states to pass their high tax burden off onto the rest of the country.

Very slick scam. Trump stopped it

I always wondered why leftists in those states didn’t scream about high property and state income taxes and this is why. They paid the state and then wrote it off on their federal returns. The blue states were fucking the rest of the country on that deal. Now it ends. Fuck you if you don’t like it. Eat shit. Pay your state taxes. You wanted them.

Third time, wrong, even delivered sources proving you are 100% wrong, the Blue States subsidies Red States, before and after Trump's hand out to the rich, actually, now the Red States will get even more, as I said, living off the Gov't tit paid for by Blue States

 

[StoneByStone]

I don't have compassion for people unwilling to do for themselves what they should be doing for themselves. It's not the government's place, by taxing someone else, to provide for people unwilling to do even the basic things in life for themselves.

Which is why I would agree that people who can work, but refuse to, should not be allowed to use social programs such as free health care. But what about working-class people who do have jobs, but are still struggling? What about people who can't work due to health issues?

Universal basic income and healthcare don't benefit everyone. Those that end up doing the paying for those unwilling to provide for themselves don't get back to the level they are required to put in. We'd be better off without them so the honorable people can move on and not constantly have beggars nipping at their ankles.

UBI and social programs benefit everyone for two reasons. First, they decentralized money, which is good for the economy. Secondly, they give opportunity to people living in poverty, who otherwise wouldn't have realistic opportunity. The rich benefit from this because they get to enjoy the benefits of what the working-class people grow up to produce.

 

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Third time, wrong, even delivered sources proving you are 100% wrong, the Blue States subsidies Red States, before and after Trump's hand out to the rich, actually, now the Red States will get even more, as I said, living off the Gov't tit paid for by Blue States

You don’t know what you are talking about. Which is not unusual for you

But really it is irrelevant. Pay your taxes and suck it

BTW where is the democrat legislation to reinstate those tax loopholes?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I think in addition to having low taxes for the working-class, we should have universal basic income and social programs like free health care.
Trump lowering taxes (for everyone, not just the working-class) but not doing much else, is doing the bare minimum and then using that as an excuse to not do more.

well, since this thread is about taxes I'm going to ignore the rest....