gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Yes, I do. See my post #17 for an explanation of what it is.
white supremacy shaped American Christianity
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Yes, I do. See my post #17 for an explanation of what it is.
Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
Through a lot of Southern Christianity, it has influenced it for the worst. Southern Baptists seem to have a lot of hate to blast in antithesis to even half-assed Christianity.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Argument of the Stone Fallacy. You are claiming that my post #17 is 'absurd' without providing any counterargument.
Care to actually address anything that I said there?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello gfm7175,
Thanks for the detailed explanation, but it didn't move me. I disagree. None of the things you mentioned are racist. It sounds like an attempt to rationalize calling those who speak out about racism - the racists. Which is absurd. They are the ones who are speaking up about it.
White churches and white clergy exist. Talking about them is not racist. If most of the people showing up at a Trump rally are white, saying so is not racist.
Telling somebody of color to go back where they came from is racist. It is calling for a separation of the races, which is a racist theme. Stating so - is not racist. It is honest.
I stand by my position.
There is nothing racist about the OP.
Calling it that is just part of deny, deflect, attack.
Thanks for the detailed explanation, but it didn't move me. I disagree. None of the things you mentioned are racist. It sounds like an attempt to rationalize calling those who speak out about racism - the racists. Which is absurd. They are the ones who are speaking up about it.
White churches and white clergy exist. Talking about them is not racist. If most of the people showing up at a Trump rally are white, saying so is not racist.
Telling somebody of color to go back where they came from is racist. It is calling for a separation of the races, which is a racist theme. Stating so - is not racist. It is honest.
I stand by my position.
There is nothing racist about the OP.
Calling it that is just part of deny, deflect, attack.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Then we're on completely different pages as to what 'racism' even is... I'm not sure what you're thinking it is...
If they simply speak out about it, then that is not racist. If they have to create a racist model in order to "speak out about it" (when what they are speaking out about isn't actually racism to begin with), then THEY are being the racists since THEY are the ones who are creating the racist model.
Yes, they do. It is not always racist, but if a racist model is created while speaking about them, then that is racist.
Same as above. But that wasn't what the article was saying. The article was attempting to paint Trump supporters as 'white', as if it is only white people who support him. THAT is racist.
No, it's not. It is simply telling somebody to go back to where they came from. The people attacking Trump for saying that are building a racist model [a model where the only possible reason why Trump would say that is due to her skin color]. THEY are the racists, not Trump. THEY are the ones who built that model, not Trump.
And here you are building a racist model and then projecting that model onto the President as if it was his own model... It is YOURS, not his.
Okay, then you are choosing to reject logic.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello gfm7175,
I recognize the traditional version of racism where whites put down people of color. I do not recognize this new wave conservative version where those who call out the racism are somehow the racists. That seems completely backwards. It's like, whatever one party calls another party, then the second party just calls the first party the same thing without basis. Then the basis is 'created,' but it is false. Now, I am calling out that falsehood. That's where we are.
Yeah, that's the leap I am not making. It hinges on denying that original racism. The form has changed, it has become a bit indirect, but we are not fooled. We know hatred and rejection of others when we see it.
That is such a stretch it reminds me of Rosemary Woods.
Except the article never said that.
This ignores the mistake of telling an American to go back where they came from. Hello. They are Americans. They come from America now. They are where they belong. Telling them to go back to a place they originated before becoming Americans ignores the fact that they are Americans. That ignorance is the racism. It is as if the statement refuses to recognize selected American citizens, pretending they are something else, something less, something unwanted. It's hate-driven and it is race-driven. It's racism. It wouldn't be done to a white boy from Kansas.
The President is the one calling for the separation between his whiteness and her blackness, calling for there to be national boundaries separating them. It's hurtful, and it is racism.
My position is completely logical. We simply base our logic on the different perceptions. I feel like I am simply recognizing the facts, but you have a predetermined conclusion that you are molding 'alternative facts' to lead you to. I think that without the predetermined conclusion nobody would naturally arrive at the alternative facts required for your explanation.
I recognize the traditional version of racism where whites put down people of color. I do not recognize this new wave conservative version where those who call out the racism are somehow the racists. That seems completely backwards. It's like, whatever one party calls another party, then the second party just calls the first party the same thing without basis. Then the basis is 'created,' but it is false. Now, I am calling out that falsehood. That's where we are.
Yeah, that's the leap I am not making. It hinges on denying that original racism. The form has changed, it has become a bit indirect, but we are not fooled. We know hatred and rejection of others when we see it.
That is such a stretch it reminds me of Rosemary Woods.
Except the article never said that.
This ignores the mistake of telling an American to go back where they came from. Hello. They are Americans. They come from America now. They are where they belong. Telling them to go back to a place they originated before becoming Americans ignores the fact that they are Americans. That ignorance is the racism. It is as if the statement refuses to recognize selected American citizens, pretending they are something else, something less, something unwanted. It's hate-driven and it is race-driven. It's racism. It wouldn't be done to a white boy from Kansas.
The President is the one calling for the separation between his whiteness and her blackness, calling for there to be national boundaries separating them. It's hurtful, and it is racism.
My position is completely logical. We simply base our logic on the different perceptions. I feel like I am simply recognizing the facts, but you have a predetermined conclusion that you are molding 'alternative facts' to lead you to. I think that without the predetermined conclusion nobody would naturally arrive at the alternative facts required for your explanation.
That's news to this life-long Catholic, lol.
countryboy
Verified User
As you all know, very few American 'Christians' worship anything but money. Land- grabbing, ethnic cleansing and slavery made for good returns for the scumbags who couldn't manage elsewhere, which is why those who could borrow the fare went. Good thing some decent people seem to have got there too - almost an argument for a good God!
Lol
saltydancin
Verified User
Maybe it's only exercised by that right hand lynching enforcement division of the church to complement the left hand Mafia tactics since Christiananality pedophilia business national religion comes as a holy trinity evidenced by the 21st century second coming of Christiananality Islamophobia pedophilia long life survival of the fittest fascists.....
As you all know, very few American 'Christians' worship anything but money. Land- grabbing, ethnic cleansing and slavery made for good returns for the scumbags who couldn't manage elsewhere, which is why those who could borrow the fare went. Good thing some decent people seem to have got there too - almost an argument for a good God!
^^Still stuck on moron.
Or maybe you're just regurgitating bullshit...
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Racism. Bigotry.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
We had a hell of a party that night.
saltydancin
Verified User
More of that money talks & bullshit walks Nazi economics preying Catholic Church "serve the Pope or die" megalomaniacal diatribe crusade. Where else but in a Christian Nation would Papal contingents of thieving old glory presented by JFK for business excellence - old testament arsonists baptize thine eyes buy urinations have such arrogant condescending master race super egos lynching children for the assassination of JFK, despite being at the National Archives & SCOTUS; which obviously is little more than a supreme swastika up Uranus court business of pedophilia; especially after getting out of a hospital. Pairing that with their climax of a second coming master plan where those burning Bush's 9/11 Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" health care plan tautology more perfect union with Islam "death to the infidels" Islamophobia pedophilia certainly leaves no doubt as in fixing elections, despite not watching JFK's death nor even voting has given rise to a new master race Islamidiotocracy regurgitation tradition of American too dang lily brilliant white Christianity supremacy.
More bullshit, diarrhea of the keyboard...
saltydancin
Verified User
Take it up with those crooks on Capital Hill, D.C. since there's no equal justice under law & since they'd never implicate themselves you can still walk on water as 21st century song remains the same onward Islamophobia Christiananality Dalek soldiers of a not so white supremacy.....exterminate, exterminate, exterminate.....
Why would I act on bullshit from you lol?