gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Yup. Some States have laws like that (Florida is one of them). Wisconsin (where I'm located) doesn't have any such limits.
Why is DeSantis such a bad POTUS candidate?
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LurchAddams
There Can be Only One!
It's more like 90 criminal indictments.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
It was much more than enough, ergo the necessity for massive election fraud.
"Many"?! hahahahahaha The people of whom you speak are so few and far between as to be considered statistically insignificant.
He is the only candidate running under the Republican banner who stands a chance.
LurchAddams
There Can be Only One!
It's because trump is so popular with the magas that no opposing candidate besides Christie (who really isn't running to be president) is willing to risk pissing off the maga base. What all other candidates are doing are hoping is that the legal system will take trump out for them and that they can slide in as an alternative.
Althea
Althea told me...........
I don't view MAGA as part of a party either, similar to the Tea Party. A lot of (whatever the hell they might be) their beliefs tend to resemble Right Wing talking points, and they seem to be anti govt. no matter what. Both tend to be disinterested, and uninformed when it comes to complex issues that we wish our legislators would address.
Like myself before Dubyah's second election bid, they didn't bother to vote for a variety of reasons. I didn't think it mattered who was running the nation back then. It always seemed to be a clusterfuck. Of course, I live in a deep Blue state, so even today voting for POTUS isn't even necessary.
trump inspired many to come out of the sewers and vote because they loved his bigotted message. Many others weren't aware that he's a pathological liar and they believed that he was going to make life a lot better for the working class. Additionally, they believed that he was a successful businessman so he must know something about the economy.
Obama similarly inspired many non voters to come out and vote for the first time, many of them non white. Not making any comparison between the two candidates, but there are myriad similarities between the two voting camps. Many didn't follow politics or the issues at all, and were voting for a celebrity.
Many did vote for trump either because they wanted Bernie and felt betrayed, or because they hated Hillary and did so out of spite. People were warned that the Supreme Court was at stake, but they simply didn't hear it. Hillary's voice shut them down and they weren't interested.
At this point though, MAGA is solidly trump or bust. Real Republicans who voted for him in '20 even though they didn't want to, might just sit this one out or vote Dem.. Reasonable people know that trump simply cannot be returned to the White House.
Althea
Althea told me...........
It's a horrible time to be a Republican candidate. Do they appeal to the majority of Republicans and hope for some Independents to make up for losing the MAGAs?
Their problems are much worse than that, though. They are anchored to the pro life message, and no matter what they do about the MAGA problem, the nation is NOT buying what they're peddling.
So they may as well be pilot fish and hope for exactly what you suggest. It still won't work. They might advance out of the primary with absolutely no self respect for eating trump's shit, but the pro choice movement is simply too big to ignore.
What will be interesting is to see if the Right still chooses to keep MAGAs in the House/Senate as they renounce trump?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
We're not all going to come to the same conclusion, obviously.
For me, Rhonda Santis is a bad candidate because he/she/it is not a democratic socialist like I am.
Other people may dislike him for other reasons, of course.
LurchAddams
There Can be Only One!
I think you're right about the aggressive stance the anti-abortion movement has taken. It'll affect them not only the national, but in state and local elections as well. Many maga governors have signed 6-week abortion bans - it's not going to go over well with the masses. Younkin of VA will most likely end up being a one-termer.
The right cannot grow their base. They are on the wrong side of the environment, abortion, and guns. They have to make their minority vote at about 100 percent and hope the Dem vote is unenthusiastic. The other scenario is being built now. Deny the loss and take over the government. They have to make 1-6 insurrection look like spring training. It's the voting machines. It's the election workers. It's a Bid\n plot against Trump and the right. What it cannot be is they lost the vote again.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
I'm with you on this. In fact, plenty of former "Tea Party" people are now a part of MAGA.
This is where one needs to be careful. Words like "anti-government", or any "anti-_____", are very easy to throw around, but are almost always completely meaningless at best and completely inaccurate at worst.
MAGA does not oppose government. Rather, they oppose corruption within government, and oppose a large and oppressive government. I think those are reasonable things to oppose.
I wouldn't say that. I think MAGA, for the most part, is pretty well informed on said issues.
Yup, a number of people didn't bother with voting and had various reasons for that.
How would you answer this question today?
For me, Trump's presidency was an awakening. I used to think that it mattered which party was in charge and that Republicans were the better option. I held a favorable view of Bush and believed his lies regarding foreign policy (but give me a break, I was a pre-teen/early-teen at the time). I stupidly believed that McCain was a "maverick" (still give me a break, I still wasn't quite old enough to vote). I stupidly thought that the Romney/Ryan ticket would make a difference re: Obama's first term (Okay, now I was of voting age and should've known better). Even during the 2015-2016 primary season, I still wasn't where I am today on political views. I was skeptical of Trump, thought of him as a "NY Democrat", didn't trust that he'd do what he said he was going to do, but DID enjoy his bashing of the lying media. I ultimately supported Ted Cruz in the primary (which I now regret).
Then, during Trump's presidency, as Deep State government corruption became more and more obvious, my views changed quite a bit. I had previously been frustrated with Republicans never actually doing what they said they were going to do, and always being "weak" in comparison to Democrats, but I never put two and two together to figure out why that was until seeing how they behaved during Trump's term, fighting against his agenda every step of the way. Here, somebody (Trump) was finally serious about getting control over our illegal immigration, drug trafficking, and child trafficking issues, and Republicans (instead of supporting his agenda) actually fought against him on it. WTF?! That was one of numerous big realization moments that Republicans and Democrats really aren't any different from each other in the grand scheme of things.
And nowadays, I have a very easy time picking out the "faux opposition" schemes of Republicans, such as their unwillingness to release all of the J6 tapes, as promised, and their unwillingness to impeach Biden for his crimes (and their unwillingness to stand with Trump against Democrat impeachments and now indictments against him). It's very clear at this point which side Republicans are on, and it's NOT on the side of We The People. It's on the side of Democrats. It's on the side of elitist globalists. It's on the side of the corrupt and oppressive Uniparty status quo.
Thus, now I think that it doesn't matter which party is in charge. Thus, I now support the people who are standing up against that corrupt Uniparty status quo, and those people are a part of the MAGA movement.
... and I live in what is commonly dubbed a "swing state", so I've always been active when it comes to voting.
As opposed to your bigoted message right here re: Trump's voters? Take a look in the mirror. You might find that you have more in common with Trump's policies and Trump's voters than you currently realize, if you'd make the effort to (kindly) talk to them and hear them out instead of parroting a preconceived media-driven notion about them. They really aren't bad people at all. They're hard working Hispanics who want safe communities for their families and don't have the time or care to learn a hundred new "pronouns". They're hard working farmers, manufacturers, and other providers of products who have been disenfranchised by the Uniparty bending them over furniture, selling them and their labor out to foreign nations, thus creating the "Rust Belt". I could go on and on, but MAGA supporters are by and large average-Joe people trying to peacefully make a living despite having a harder time affording the essentials due to the "Rich Men North of Richmond" (there's a reason why that song went viral).
Trump's not a liar. That's the "professionally Republican" and "professionally Democrat". That's McConnell, McCarthy, Biden, Pelosi, etc...
... which he did.
He is and he does.
Correct. People believed the "hope and change" messaging, and also thought that it would be cool to finally have a darker skin toned person as President.
Agreed, less the "celebrity" comment. Many of these voters are disaffected voters who have been disenfranchised by the Uniparty.
Yup, a number of them supported Bernie. A number of them support Trump. A number of them hate both Democrats (Hillary) and Republicans (Jeb!).
I know the feeling. Us Wisconsinites were warned that our State Supreme Court was at stake, but nevertheless we allowed it to be overtaken by activist liberals. But then again, Daniel Kelly didn't want Trump's endorsement and tried to stay separated from him. That hurt him severely in the Western and Northern parts of the State. Those people stayed home (and/or voted Democrat) and he got crushed. Same when Romney ran for President. Same when McCain ran for President. Same when Bush ran for President.
It's interesting how those county by county results maps all look eerily similar to each other, just as the Ronald Reagan, Ron Johnson, and Donald Trump maps all look eerily similar to each other. IOW, the populist Reagan, Johnson, and Trump types can all win in Wisconsin, while the "professionally Republican" Bush, McCain, and Romney types cannot win here. Of course, the RNC and the CONservative media outlets (e.g. Daily Wire) pretend not to know this. "Trump can't win with suburban women... Trump can't win with Independents... blah blah blah". It's complete and utter BULLSHIT. The results maps speak for themselves.
It wasn't just her voice that was the issue.
You got THAT right!
Meaningless buzzwords ("Real Republicans"; "Reasonable people").
QP!
Verified User
Just another example of Dems brilliance and playing 8D chess while, again it exposes how stupid, top to bottom, politicians and Trump derp voters are.
Checkmate republi'cans', you have no skills, nor any of the brain power needed to avoid our "trap".
Just another example of Dems brilliance and playing 8D chess while, again it exposes how stupid, top to bottom, politicians and Trump derp voters are.
Checkmate republi'cans', you have no skills, nor any of the brain power needed to avoid our "trap".
Republicans do indeed have the skill to circle up a firing squad with some quick draw "masters"...
Each time Trump gets indicted he gets more support. At this point I think they are conflating a need to win with a need to support Trump in his trials. You can support him in his trials without giving the one man we know to have lost to a Basement Dwelling Dementia Patient with a laptop documenting his family's crimes the nomination.
Trump still has not outlined a plan that would overcome the "massive cheating" that they used to "steal" the last election, if he has no plan to get past that he'll lose to the Dementia Patient in Chief once again and we'll have four more years of this rule by Oligarch Committee to get through before sanity can be a possibility.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Right you are! The Uniparty is plummeting in support by the day.
BINGO!
Yup, you got it.
Wow, Nordbutt is getting stuff right for a change.
He's very pragmatic, not a showman or emotional. He is a phenomenal leader though. He walks the walk.
He just bombed...AGAIN.