Why is educating about Tubman bad?

Dutch Uncle said:
Yes they were put up by racists, but Lincoln was a racist. Same for Jefferson. It was the times. Now that the monuments have been torn down, what do you have? Division and a lot of green grass. Nothing else. Tired of Winning yet? LOL
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It almost sounds as though you prefer that non-racists sit down and shut up and don't point out hate, or else we're being "divisive."
 
Heres some truth for you DUMB fucks this morning when it comes to this subject. In fact,...some on the left will secretly agree with me although would never have the balls to admit it.

The "so called" non racists of the left are now seen as people who will make any and all excuses in the book for literally ANY non white person no matter what they do, how much evidence there is, how CLEARLY WRONG they are by any objective measure or how much of a total scum bag they are while simultaneously condemning ANY White person no matter what the situation is when they are dealing with a non white person in some type of conflict even if all available evidence clearly shows that the non white was in the wrong and the aggressor.

The most damaging part of this for the "so called" non racists is the fact that the rest of us just roll our eyes and laugh at you regardless of what race we happen to be because we all KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are not acting this way for ANY of the reasons you state. The truth is you are acting this way for purely political reasons because your own racism sees minority peoples as a monolithic voting block that YOU NEED to vote your way in massive numbers because if they do not you have zero chance of winning much of anything. This is the biggest reason why Black and Latino support for Democrats is slowly over time decreasing for D candidates. They too see THE BULLSHIT for what it is and quite frankly are sick to death of it as well.

Do yourselves a favor dumb fucks,....don't even try combating this post,...you cant as we ALL KNOW it is true,...and YOU especially know it is true. Just slink away and STFU if you are smart. If not,...do as you do and make even bigger asses of yourselves. You are only hurting your own party in the end.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
It almost sounds as though you prefer that non-racists sit down and shut up and don't point out hate, or else we're being "divisive."
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No. On the contrary, I'm advocating building rather than destroying. What the MAGAts are doing now is the same philosophy; destroying what has been built and trying to rebuild it in their own image regardless if you and I agree with them or not.
 
You know,....I have a great idea. How about we judge each individual on how they conduct their lives and what kind of a person they are and leave race out of it. How about if someone is a stand up person who does right we call them just that no matter what their racial makeup is ? Or how about if someone is a scumbag we say they are a scumbag no matter what race they happen to be. Wouldn't that be much easier and better you "so called" non racists you?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No. On the contrary, I'm advocating building rather than destroying. What the MAGAts are doing now is the same philosophy; destroying what has been built and trying to rebuild it in their own image regardless if you and I agree with them or not.
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Then let's remove the offensive monuments and replace them with something honoring a positive historical person or event in that particular locale. I hate to see these statues destroyed because in their own way, they are art. So let's put them in museums where they can be used to teach the history surrounding their creation. Or sell them to private collectors who are then free to display them on their own property. Having a monument to someone who fought against the U.S. on govt. property is giving tacit approval to what he/she did.
 
Stone said:
You know,....I have a great idea. How about we judge each individual on how they conduct their lives and what kind of a person they are and leave race out of it. How about if someone is a stand up person who does right we call them just that no matter what their racial makeup is ? Or how about if someone is a scumbag we say they are a scumbag no matter what race they happen to be. Wouldn't that be much easier and better you "so called" non racists you?
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Too funny,...dumb fuck Owl flips off the most non racist post in the thread proving once again that she is indeed the total dumb fuck I say she is. The U.P Cletus in full bloom......

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ThatOwlWoman said:
Then let's remove the offensive monuments and replace them with something honoring a positive historical person or event in that particular locale. I hate to see these statues destroyed because in their own way, they are art.
So let's put them in museums where they can be used to teach the history surrounding their creation. Or sell them to private collectors who are then free to display them on their own property. Having a monument to someone who fought against the U.S. on govt. property is giving tacit approval to what he/she did.
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Destroy the monuments and the history behind them then put up something that isn't offensive to you? I understand the philosophy but disagree with it.

There's no money for museums for "offensive monuments" and there won't be money for new, less "offensive" monuments due to the division that's been created among taxpayers.

Selling them to the rich so they can become rallying points for white nationalists only deepens the divide, IMO. Again. better to leave them be but build monuments and displays around them to teach the context of history.

An example is Richmond, VA's Monument Avenue. The "offensive" statues have been removed leaving only the Arthur Ashe statue. All that remains is green grass. The opportunity to teach history and how we got from there to here has been lost.

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Monument Avenue - Wikipedia

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Monument Avenue is a tree-lined grassy mall dividing the eastbound and westbound traffic in Richmond, Virginia, originally named for its emblematic complex of structures honoring those who fought for the Confederacy during the American Civil War.[4] Between 1900 and 1925, Monument Avenue greatly expanded with architecturally significant houses, churches, and apartment buildings.[5] Four of the bronze statues representing J. E. B. Stuart, Stonewall Jackson, Jefferson Davis and Matthew Fontaine Maury were removed from their memorial pedestals amidst civil unrest in July 2020.[6] The Robert E. Lee monument was handled differently as it was owned by the Commonwealth, in contrast with the other monuments which were owned by the city. Dedicated in 1890, it was removed on September 8, 2021. All these monuments, including their pedestals, have now been removed completely from the Avenue. The last remaining statue on Monument Avenue is the Arthur Ashe Monument, memorializing the African-American tennis champion, dedicated in 1996.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It's your game, dear. You started it and now you are complaining? WTF, sweetcheeks?
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Toxic is well known for starting things and then whining that she's the victim when she gets it dished back to her. Stalking, doxing, snitching, trying to get ppl banned, obsession, revealing personal info, going after family members, etc. -- she's done it all!
 
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