Why is educating about Tubman bad?

[Truth Detector]

IMO, both should be taught as heroes. Labeling Robert E. Lee as a traitor is as divisive as what the MAGAts are doing to DEI.

 

[Truth Detector]

I’d don’t recall, it was conducted during Felonious’ first term when this was an issue.

 

[Phantasmal]

There's lots of polls. Some more legitimate than others.

IMO, we can't get rid of racism by being racist and we can't get rid of divisiveness by being divisive.

Exactly why we need to get rid of the monuments.

 

[Lionfish]

Exactly why we need to get rid of the monuments.

Or, better yet, ignore the lefties.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Exactly why we need to get rid of the monuments.

Again, we should agree to disagree on burying the past so it can be repeated.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqwMo130fR8

 

[Dutch Uncle]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqgADTRHndo

 

[Lionfish]

Oh Miss Piggy. Everyone can see who's the CEO of a fan club. It's found in their signatures.

Mr. Tiny Penis, the CEO of my fan club.
Of course, they can which is why I continue to remind everyone of your violent nature.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Mr. Tiny Penis, the CEO of my fan club.
You are misappropriating again.

Your flirting with the object of your affections is well known, Miss Piggy. I know you want me to ride you. Why else put my post in your signature and constantly talking about my penis? You are my #1 fan, sweetcheeks!

 

[Lionfish]

Your flirting with the object of your affections is well known, Miss Piggy. I know you want me to ride you. Why else put my post in your signature and constantly talking about my penis? You are my #1 fan, sweetcheeks!

Mr Tiny Penis the CEO of my fan club, do you ever think before you post. Your constant misappropriations are the giveaway to your lack of thought process.
Been humiliated by the mods lately?

 

[Yakuda]

Exactly why we need to get rid of the monuments.

Because they hurt your feelings?.

 

[Jarod]

IMO, both should be taught as heroes. Labeling Robert E. Lee as a traitor is as divisive as what the MAGAts are doing to DEI.

How is he not?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

How is he not?

He fought for his country Virginia. How could he be a traitor?

Before the war, it was said 'the United States are' - grammatically it was spoken that way and thought of as a collection of independent states. And after the war it was always 'the United States is', as we say today without being self-conscious at all. And that sums up what the war accomplished. It made us an 'is'.
Shelby Foote, American historian

From ‘the United States are’ to ‘the United States is’ | Penn Today

Political scientist Melissa M. Lee on how the linguistic shift from plural to singular demonstrates the evolution of sovereign authority in the U.S.

penntoday.upenn.edu

 

[Phantasmal]

Again, we should agree to disagree on burying the past so it can be repeated.

That’s not the disagreement Dutch, neither of us wants to bury the past.

You just think the statues preserve the past. I think they pervert it. The traitor and losers aren’t to be honored as heroes. They declared war on this country. They don’t deserve monuments to honor them.

 

[ULTRA MAGA]

When they took down Traitor to the United States Robert E. Lee the fuckers had an attack.

A real hero, Harriet Tubman should be celebrated.

Don't worry they will always celebrate her during negro month and on the two other negro federal holidays.

32 days each year to get it done!

Or would you rather we all jump up in the air and click our nuts for her each morning?

 

[Nordberg]

R.E. Lee was clear on monuments. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments Thety retard healing and keep reminding people of those who tried to break up the US.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Mr Tiny Penis the CEO of my fan club, do you ever think before you post. Your constant misappropriations are the giveaway to your lack of thought process.
Been humiliated by the mods lately?

Oh Miss Piggy, your flirtations are flattering just like your infatuation with me. Why else would you constantly talk about my penis and quote me in your signature?

Admit it, you looove this!:

 

[Lionfish]

Oh Miss Piggy, your flirtations are flattering just like your infatuation with me. Why else would you constantly talk about my penis and quote me in your signature?

Mr. Tiny Penis the CEO of my fan club, I do it so all of us can see what a depraved child you are in your response. You have yet to let any of us down. That answer your question?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

R.E. Lee was clear on monuments. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/robert-e-lee-opposed-confederate-monuments Thety retard healing and keep reminding people of those who tried to break up the US.

Break up? The United States was 37 states loosely bound by a single constitution. When it appeared some states were seeking to abolish slavery, something that was agreed to in the Constitution, then the Slave States felt that it was the abolitionist states that were breaking the agreement.

I agree with Lee that building certain monuments can create division. I also feel the same way about destroying 100+ year monuments. Better to follow George Santayana's advice and learn from the past instead of creating divisions and/or trying to bury it as if it never happened.

From your link:
“I think it wiser,” the retired military leader wrote about a proposed Gettysburg memorial in 1869, “…not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”

Historical Context: The Constitution and Slavery | Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History

Historical Context: The Constitution and Slavery | On the 200th anniversary of the ratification of the US Constitution, Thurgood Marshall, the first African American to sit on the Supreme Court, said that the Constitution was "defective from the start." He pointed out that the framers had left...

www.gilderlehrman.org

The framers of the Constitution believed that concessions on slavery were the price for the support of southern delegates for a strong central government. They were convinced that if the Constitution restricted the slave trade, South Carolina and Georgia would refuse to join the Union. But by sidestepping the slavery issue, the framers left the seeds for future conflict. After the convention approved the great compromise, Madison wrote: "It seems now to be pretty well understood that the real difference of interests lies not between the large and small but between the northern and southern states. The institution of slavery and its consequences form the line of discrimination."

Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention, about 25 owned slaves. Many of the framers harbored moral qualms about slavery. Some, including Benjamin Franklin (a former slaveholder) and Alexander Hamilton (who was born in a slave colony in the British West Indies) became members of anti-slavery societies.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

That’s not the disagreement Dutch, neither of us wants to bury the past.

You just think the statues preserve the past. I think they pervert it. The traitor and losers aren’t to be honored as heroes. They declared war on this country. They don’t deserve monuments to honor them.

Destroying monuments leaving only smooth green lawns instead of building more monuments or otherwise putting the history into context is, indeed, burying the past.

Ask HS graduates why 2% of the US population died during the Civil War begins and ends with one word "slavery". No context, nothing beyond that...and quickly forgotten.

Now, here we are 160 years later and our nation is severely divided once more. Why? IMO, because we, as a nation, refuse to embrace the past and learn from it.