Well lets see.....
The conservatives have said gays cannot serve in the military, they don't want them to be teachers, won't let them marry, have called them vile and disgusting, have said they are an "abomination", and some have even claimed that they can be cured by prayer.
I cannot imagine why the gay community hasn't embraced the conservative movement. Can you?
I see your points. Thak you. That is one of the things I don't like about hard core consertatives that are fanatics with their religion (even mother teresa said fanatics are a big problem).
I think I think of consertativism the correct way--a America with freedom of religion, and their beliefs--and from religion if wanted.
To me, a consertative is simply a person who loves the premis of which this country was founded. All people free to do amazing things. A federal government with limited power, so we can be as free as possible, and invit all here that want to be free from their socialistic/communistic opressive countries.
I did meet a hom that is consertative. He thinks he sould be able to reep the benifits of his rewards, and he said he would punch me in the mouth if I had a problem with him being gay. I don't have a problem with someone being gay--I just did not understand why most of them adopted a liberial mentality. This guy was pretty cool I thought.
I ask you to do what I do, and seperate christians religions beliefs of gays, to what consertativism is really suppose to be--the conservation of USA, capatoilsm, ownership, free will to drive our SUV, eat what we want, and keep our homes warm--no matter what some other socialistic/communistic country thinks. We also do a lot of good in the world, because of our position. For example, no other country gives as much international aid to countries in need of natural disaster. There are many more.
I don't think you have to jump to socialism--and I think it is a mistake.
I would much rather you start your own consertative party for your country, but seperate your love for your country from their love for their religion. The way America is suppose to be IMO.
by the way---my area (I moved here--not raised--thank god) is about 70% christian--plenty of fanatics, and they bug me. I hear it is a cure also--some try, and even become priests driven by a imposed guilt. What happes to them--they let their dark side out all at once--and attack a little boy--ruingin his life. Then--they shuffeled the offender to lead a new church--and nobody went to jail. Seems that they won't admitt they are wrong. Lots of gays here, being talked into being cured--the result--a child molestion rate twice of a comparable sized city in Michigan, and per capita.
I just don't think liberials love this country. I know they hate some things--I do to---but that is no reason to let socialism and communisum into this country.
I can accept you as gay--and I do--I can't accept you as one of todays Marksist liberials.
I hope all you convert away from socialism for your country--and screw the fanatics.
it is a fact--when a element is intorduced (coming out of the closet) to a population that is not part of that element--there will be some adjustment period. The blacks went through it in the 60's and 70'a, and if they would just stop bringing it up--it would be over. I know the homosexual populaiton is still in this adjustment period in some circles--but that is still no reason to sell out every bodies freedom.
Please reconsider. I think your good people on here, but I think your on the wrong side, and despise America because of how you have been treated during this adjustment period (which I think is really at it's ending).
let me tell you something. I have one brother. he is gay. I never heard one disscuasion (let alone a argument) in our family about him being gay. I learned he was gay, when I started getting teased in HS. My family totally acdepted my brothers homosexuality, but he still hates our dad, and is a die hard liberial. Heck--he used to be pretty mechanically inclined. He worked on his four stroke motorcycle engine as a kid, and bicycles--but now--for example--I bought him a electric scooter for Christmas (we still celibrate christmas--mom loves it)--anfd it need a round pin--pounded in a round hole for a pivot point to fold the handle bars down. 14 year old kids assemble it all the time--and he could no longer figure it out. What the hell happened to him, also letting his career go (and he has mad skills)---I don't know---but he is a liberial now---probably only because of gay rights. Hey--I will help society adjust to you--just stop forcing socialism on these other fine people. It really is killing America.