Double Mormon Ticket...

Man, I never realized how quick Conservatives are to play the bigot card!

I dont expect it, because Ive never known you to admit when you are wrong... but Damo, you owe me an apology.
 
I did not, I was just interjecting my knowledge of LDS practices. I did not comment on the Rubio issue, except that Rubio is now considered by the Catholic church to be Catholic. If he was on the Mormon roll, unless he went through the processing of asking to be removed from their roll, he is still considered a Mormon, an apostate Mormon, but never formally excommunicated, unless joining another church automatically ex- communicates you. I will have to look into this.

Most churches discourage conversion, because most churches believe they are the one true faith. This is the way they discourage joining other faiths. Their way is the only way to salvation.

Yup. However, just like Obama was a member from a choice made by family in his childhood of a religion that calls you "Apostate" if you convert to another religion and we accept that he is actually not a member of that religion, so too it would apply to Rubio.

Do you understand that this person that started this thread would call it religious bigotry if I said that Obama is a Muslim, but in this instance disregards an equal allusion to another?

Seriously, that is religious bigotry and hypocrisy.

While you and I provide actual information, Jarod came here to spread ignorance.

One actually CAN leave the "Mormon" church (LDS Church), you actually state it in this post, it is unique in my experience therefore (and the reason I have asked for one single link to an official page stating you can never do that...)

The assumption that it will matter here but we should ignore the same circumstance (parents choosing your religion as a child) with one person, but attempt to spread it about another is bigotry based in partisanship.
 
Man, I never realized how quick Conservatives are to play the bigot card!

I dont expect it, because Ive never known you to admit when you are wrong... but Damo, you owe me an apology.

It's not a card, you are deliberately spreading ignorance and when given an opportunity to correct you jump in with both feet.

Can you provide one link from the Church that states you can never leave the LDS Church? If not, you are simply spreading ignorance, which is currently purposeful if you will not change your assertions to fit the actual facts.

And you are lying, I have apologized to you when I was wrong. You are now spreading lies about me as well.
 
1) You still dont know what a bigot is, saying something false about a group is not bigotry.
It is when you continue to say it when shown to be wrong and use it as a stick to "beat" them with.
2) I might be wrong about Mormons, but being misinformed does not make one an idiot.
But it does make one ignorant. What makes one an idiot is continuing to spread it after given correct information.
3) I do not belive I am wrong and have not been proven wrong.
And here is where it becomes deliberate.
 
1) You still dont know what a bigot is, saying something false about a group is not bigotry.
2) I might be wrong about Mormons, but being misinformed does not make one an idiot.
3) I do not belive I am wrong and have not been proven wrong.

1) Deliberately spreading something that is false about a group is absolutely bigotry.

2) When you state something as a fact and then use that fact to defend you other 'positions' it most certainly does make you an idiot. If you are going to comment on what a religion believes, you should actually make sure you know what you are talking about.

3) Just go to the LDS website Jarod. LDS members can get divorced, they can submit to have their names removed from the rolls, they can have marriages annulled. You aren't even remotely close to being right. No matter how much Dung and Onceler defend your ignorance, you are still ignorant.
 
:rolleyes:

Don't be deliberately obtuse, stupid doesn't look good on you and it cripples your ability to even appear as if you are trying to argue something.


Sadly, its not a deliberate response....its just an innate reflex ........hell, after seeing all the crap he and yurt post to each other, its plain his being obtuse is
the least of his problems......
 
BTW - Jarod. Just an FYI.

One can resign from the "Mormon" church...

Here I'll give a website from a former "Mormon" who even tells you how to do it correctly...

http://www.mormonnomore.com/

One is not considered "forever Mormon" because of a childhood baptism.

It is possible that he never resigned, however we grant Obama the respect of believing his professed religion. To do otherwise would be bigotry. We should provide the same respect to another Christian, or recognize our own religious bigotry and hypocrisy.
 
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Yup. However, just like Obama was a member from a choice made by family in his childhood of a religion that calls you "Apostate" if you convert to another religion and we accept that he is actually not a member of that religion, so too it would apply to Rubio.

Do you understand that this person that started this thread would call it religious bigotry if I said that Obama is a Muslim, but in this instance disregards an equal allusion to another?

Seriously, that is religious bigotry and hypocrisy.

While you and I provide actual information, Jarod came here to spread ignorance.

One actually CAN leave the "Mormon" church (LDS Church), you actually state it in this post, it is unique in my experience therefore (and the reason I have asked for one single link to an official page stating you can never do that...)

The assumption that it will matter here but we should ignore the same circumstance (parents choosing your religion as a child) with one person, but attempt to spread it about another is bigotry based in partisanship.

1) I never called Rubio a Mormon. From my perspective he is a Catholic. From the perspective of two mormon friends I was speaking with over the weekend he is a Mormon.
2) If you said that the President was a Muslam in the eyes of Islam, I would not call you a bigot, I would agree with you.
3) If you said that you belived the President to be a Muslam, I would not call you a bigot. I might argue with you reasoning or call you bilnded by partisenship, but I would not call you a bigot.
 
First, link up the "rule" on an official Mormon website. Just saying, "According to the Mormon Church"... doesn't make it real.

(There is no "Mormon" church, BTW, they are called Latter Day Saints in official channels).

LOL. I know many, many "ex" Mormons. This is just stupid religious bigotry. You make up whatever you want and then expect us all to believe it.

Rubio is a practicing Catholic who converted to Catholicism at 11 years old.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...s-reportedly-baptized-as-mormon-in-his-youth/

Now, tell me again how liberals actually will learn about something before spouting stupid.


The fact remains that once you've joined the LDS church, thechurch hierarchy consider you a member for life...no matter what YOU do or which religion you convert to later, the CHURCH will consider you Mormon.

My family joined the LDS church when I was high school...some 35 years ago...and although I quit going soon after and I've moved numerous times since, the missionaries always manage to find me and stop by to say hi.
 
It's not a card, you are deliberately spreading ignorance and when given an opportunity to correct you jump in with both feet.

Can you provide one link from the Church that states you can never leave the LDS Church? If not, you are simply spreading ignorance, which is currently purposeful if you will not change your assertions to fit the actual facts.

And you are lying, I have apologized to you when I was wrong. You are now spreading lies about me as well.

I dont believe you have ever admited to having been wrong, maybe I dont remember. If you did, then obvously I apologise!
 
It is when you continue to say it when shown to be wrong and use it as a stick to "beat" them with.
But it does make one ignorant. What makes one an idiot is continuing to spread it after given correct information.

And here is where it becomes deliberate.

Where have I "beat" anyone with my belife that Mormons believe that once baptised Mormon you remain a Mormon?


I belive it because I was told it to be true by MORMONS.... Just because there is no official LDS cite that says differnetly does not mean its not true.
 
1) I never called Rubio a Mormon. From my perspective he is a Catholic. From the perspective of two mormon friends I was speaking with over the weekend he is a Mormon.

Then tell us Jarod... why did you ask if there might be a 'double Mormon ticket'?
 
The fact remains that once you've joined the LDS church, thechurch hierarchy consider you a member for life...no matter what YOU do or which religion you convert to later, the CHURCH will consider you Mormon.

Please link us up to the LDS site's area that says this. Because it is not true from all accounts I have heard. So do enlighten us.
 
1) Deliberately spreading something that is false about a group is absolutely bigotry.

2) When you state something as a fact and then use that fact to defend you other 'positions' it most certainly does make you an idiot. If you are going to comment on what a religion believes, you should actually make sure you know what you are talking about.

3) Just go to the LDS website Jarod. LDS members can get divorced, they can submit to have their names removed from the rolls, they can have marriages annulled. You aren't even remotely close to being right. No matter how much Dung and Onceler defend your ignorance, you are still ignorant.

1) You clearly do not know what bigotry is.
2) Just because you can get divorced or have your name removed does not mean they belive you are no longer a Mormon.
 
Please link us up to the LDS site's area that says this. Because it is not true from all accounts I have heard. So do enlighten us.

So, if a cite does not say it, it cant be true? WOW, thats a new maxium..... Im sure the scientifc community will be abuzz with that new information!
 
1) You clearly do not know what bigotry is.
2) Just because you can get divorced or have your name removed does not mean they belive you are no longer a Mormon.

I do Jarod... you clearly are the one who is also ignorant on yet another topic.

If you wish Jarod... please highlight why it is a person would deliberately and consistently lie about a group, if not due to bigotry? What other reason would a person do such thing Jarod?
 
Please link us up to the LDS site's area that says this. Because it is not true from all accounts I have heard. So do enlighten us.

What can I say? I'ts what I was taught during my time AS A MORMON.

How's about first you link me to all these "accounts you've heard" that contradict what I said.
 
BTW....


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot?s=t

"big·ot
   [big-uht] Show IPA

noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion. "

And Im the one you guys keep calling ignorant?

Where have I been intolerant of a dffering creed, belief or obinion? Or were you simply throwing out the bigot card for fun?
 
So, if a cite does not say it, it cant be true? WOW, thats a new maxium..... Im sure the scientifc community will be abuzz with that new information!

LMAO... no Jarod, but surely he can produce something to back up that claim? We know you won't. Which is why I asked him.

What does a religious view have to do with Science Jarod? Please continue on... you are sinking to new lows with each post. You would think you would stop digging the hole you are in... yet you keep on shoveling away.
 
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