Judge revokes Zimmerman's bond

Rana said:
I have seen many fights started by others and they got their asses handed to them, the degree of injury does not determine who inititated the confrontation. If certain accounts are to be believed, Zimmerman pushed Trayvon and Trayvon then proceeded to defend himself and Zimmerman paniced and pulled out the gun, and then Trayvon was shot. Police did not believe certain aspects of Zimmerman's story, they stated the evidence did not fit, so we will have to wait and see exactly what the evidence is in court.
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Just curious but where are these "certain accounts" you refer to; or are they invisible like the accusation of Zimmerman's tox report showed drugs in his system?
 
Bijou said:
You still haven't looked up the legal definition for 'assault'.

Your assertions are just as speculative as mine. I speculate that Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon first. Assault doesn't require physical contact.

For someone who purports to be waiting for all the evidence before arriving at a conclusion, you certainly go to great lengths to give Zimmerman the benefit of every possible doubt.

Like you, based on what is known thus far, I have my own opinion of what happened. Zimmerman killed a kid who was doing nothing wrong and claiming 'self defense' AFTER making contact despite being advised by police dispatch not to.

Enough evidence is in about Zimmerman's fixation on young blacks, his cozy relationship with that laugh-riot sorry-ass excuse for a police department, his ex-judge daddy, his 45-plus calls to 9/11. My money's on Zimmerman being guilty of 2nd degree murder. I'll settle for manslaughter.
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Zimmerman credibility could be issue in legal case

http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-credibility-could-issue-legal-case-070716310.html

This piece of shit, obtain a second passport two weeks after he murdered Trayvon Martin,
sounds like Zimmerman was planning on hightailing it out the country if he got convicted!
Zimmerman credibility will be an issue at his trial, he lied about the money he had access too,
and the second passport! I hope he stays behind bars until his trial! He will have to be segregated,
from other prisoners! May this be the beginning of a long stay behind bars!

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Rana said:
Yes, he did, because George lied, and it isn't his first lie, is my bet!
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So much for Zimmerman's credibility, IMO. He and his wife talking in code about the money and hiding the second passport from officials. What do his defenders have to say about this?
 
KingofCats said:
it's perfectly legal to shoot someone in self defense.

It is not legal, to physically assault someone for following you.

There is more evidence that trayvon acted criminally, than zimmerman.
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Everything we know about the altercation itself comes from Zimmerman. And now we know Zimmerman's a liar.
 
KingofCats said:
Really? why didn't they charge him with assault as well?

What does trayvon martins girlfriend say? Intent is what constitutes assault, not the possible unreasonable fear of another party.



Nope, you are incorrect:

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The act required for an assault must be overt. Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. A mere threat to harm is not an assault; however, a threat combined with a raised fist might be sufficient if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim.Intent is an essential element of assault."

Source: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/assault

We have no evidence an assault occurred. ​






Wrong, see above.



ook . . im with you so far



so... we have no evidence. How about we stick to what we know right now, rather than what you think the prosecution MAY have?



Zimmermans family probably thinks he's innocent. FYI.



oh dear, you've figured me out quicker than others have :p



Where are you getting this from? The prosecution hasn't charged zimmerman with assaulting trayvon. They are trying him for second degree murder. Secondly, even if one initiates physical contact, your response still must be measured. If you respond with too much force, the ball is put back in the other persons court.



it sure wasn't trayvon.
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We'll see what the jury says.
 
The neo-con 'first strike' philosophy applied on the home front...wonderful..."I'm within my rights to follow and intimidate an unarmed stranger because I think they're 'suspicious' and if he objects I'm allowed to kill him because I determined he was a threat to me...before anything was done to determine that fact"...first strike, just because you can and you can never be too safe.
 
Haiku said:
The neo-con 'first strike' philosophy applied on the home front...wonderful..."I'm within my rights to follow and intimidate an unarmed stranger because I think they're 'suspicious' and if he objects I'm allowed to kill him because I determined he was a threat to me...before anything was done to determine that fact"...first strike, just because you can and you can never be too safe.
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Florida isn't the only state that regularly demonstrates backwards-thinking and bigotry, but such thinking is thankfully the minority, and the public uproar over this is the only reason Zimmerman was finally arrested. And now, he's digging the hole deeper each time he lies.
 
christiefan915 said:
Everything we know about the altercation itself comes from Zimmerman. And now we know Zimmerman's a liar.
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Looks like he and his wife lied, (at least on the surface with what we have available to us...)

BUT....that it is certainly not true that "Everything we know about the altercation itself comes from Zimmerman"

There is the 911 call....... (that Zimmerman made and Martin didn't, so his being in fear is bullshit)
There is Martin's call to his girlfriend
There are eye witnesses

Zimmerman certainly didn't:

break his own nose
bust his own lips
blacken both his eyes
or put gashes on the back of his head

So there is evidence beyond what GZ tells the police.
 
Bullshit...what happened to the 'accountability and taking responsibility' rap??? Amazing stupidity and just plain BS.
 
Bijou said:
There is no proof that Martin's punches produced the injuries Zimmerman claims he received.
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Did I say there was proof ?

I have post this 20 times a day
I love the way you try to put words in the mouths of others in a lame attempt to win a debate......its the one trait common to the left that you all use
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