No evidence White House involved in ‘Fast and Furious’

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Where did I apologize for Darla?

Considering the fact that once again I have made a fool out of SF and disproved his false claims on this thread, I don't think I need anyone to apologize for me.

not that you'd ever know it because once again, emo boy will just emote in order to attempt a cover-up.

 

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Here is a perfect example of how SF "debates". First of all he knows shit from shinola about almost any subject - he's an instant google expert. He throws out false claims from right wing hack sites and when they are disproven he honestly can't believe it. Because he actually believes that bullshit. So he searches and searches saying "it can't be it can't be" but when his search proves fruitless and he realizes that it can be, he doesn't come back and admit he was wrong. He pretends he was never arguing that in the first place. Thus, SF's original claim about the gun is now inoperable and he's hoping everyone here has an inoperable brain tumor and doesn't remember his original claim. But here it is:

"What hasn't been established Darla? It is a fact that the guns were allowed to 'walk' to Mexican gangs. It is a fact that one of the guns was used to kill Brian Terry."

Except as now even the hack himself has to admit, it is not a fact. Not a fact at all. Instead of owning this, he is on another emo rant about brown people.

This is quite comical. Darla the hack is going to ignore the FACT that the two guns they found from fast and furious weren't there. Those weapons must have just been there for show. According to Darla the hack, it is no big deal. Dead Mexicans... not an issue she is worried about, because beloved Obama is in charge. If Bush were in office when this happened, Darla the hack would be ranting and raving like a lunatic about how Reps don't care about dead brown people (which is why she is being mocked for it now), just as Darla the hack did during the Iraq war when Bush was in office, but now she doesn't care about the dead since Obama the saint is in office.

Darla the hack will ignore all evidence against Holder and the Obama admin, because well, if you criticize Obama means you hate black people.

Sooner or later Darla will come down from her emo rage and will once again be capable of dialogue. Until then, board beware for she will restate your positions and then call you a liar and a hack... which obviously makes a lot of sense.

 

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Considering the fact that once again I have made a fool out of SF and disproved his false claims on this thread, I don't think I need anyone to apologize for me.

not that you'd ever know it because once again, emo boy will just emote in order to attempt a cover-up.

Take a look at how you entered this thread Darla... it was with your insane emo 'damo and sf are liars and hacks wah wah wah wah wah'... grow the fuck up.

You need more than an apology, you need mental help.

 

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Considering the fact that once again I have made a fool out of SF and disproved his false claims on this thread, I don't think I need anyone to apologize for me.

not that you'd ever know it because once again, emo boy will just emote in order to attempt a cover-up.

Also dearest Darla... it was you that made a fool of yourself on this thread. Using a left wingnut site to proclaim the two programs were the same, when the differences have been pointed out time and again? Reeks of partisan hackery...

 

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This is quite comical. Darla the hack is going to ignore the FACT that the two guns they found from fast and furious weren't there. Those weapons must have just been there for show. According to Darla the hack, it is no big deal. Dead Mexicans... not an issue she is worried about, because beloved Obama is in charge. If Bush were in office when this happened, Darla the hack would be ranting and raving like a lunatic about how Reps don't care about dead brown people (which is why she is being mocked for it now), just as Darla the hack did during the Iraq war when Bush was in office, but now she doesn't care about the dead since Obama the saint is in office.

Darla the hack will ignore all evidence against Holder and the Obama admin, because well, if you criticize Obama means you hate black people.

Sooner or later Darla will come down from her emo rage and will once again be capable of dialogue. Until then, board beware for she will restate your positions and then call you a liar and a hack... which obviously makes a lot of sense.

Do they have the weapon that killed Agent Terry? Have they performed ballistic test to confirm that the gun used to kill Terry was a F&F weapon?

Thanks

 

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This is quite comical. Darla the hack is going to ignore the FACT that the two guns they found from fast and furious weren't there. Those weapons must have just been there for show. According to Darla the hack, it is no big deal. Dead Mexicans... not an issue she is worried about, because beloved Obama is in charge. If Bush were in office when this happened, Darla the hack would be ranting and raving like a lunatic about how Reps don't care about dead brown people (which is why she is being mocked for it now), just as Darla the hack did during the Iraq war when Bush was in office, but now she doesn't care about the dead since Obama the saint is in office.

Darla the hack will ignore all evidence against Holder and the Obama admin, because well, if you criticize Obama means you hate black people.

Sooner or later Darla will come down from her emo rage and will once again be capable of dialogue. Until then, board beware for she will restate your positions and then call you a liar and a hack... which obviously makes a lot of sense.

blah blah blah <beats chest> blah blah blah.

So anyway, this statement is no longer operable, correct?:

"It is a fact that one of the guns was used to kill Brian Terry."

 

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A politically based attack? ROFLMAO... yeah... tell that to Brian Terry's family.

I suppose Iran Contra was just a politically based attack too?

Maybe you should tell Brian Terry's family how you didn't give two rat farts about F & F until you found out you could score some political points and use it to conservatives advantage.

And didn't Darrel Issa say on national TV just yesterday that the White House WAS NOT involved in this? So if the WH wasn't involved, what other reason could there be, but a politically based attack.

 

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Murder is illegal. deliberately giving criminals guns that lead to the murder of a US citizen is illegal.
Supplying criminals with weapons in a foreign country that leads to the death of that country's civilians is an act of war.

So Iran-Contra was an act of war?

 

[christiefan915]

Oh come on. Issa did term Obama the "most corrupt administration in the history of the American Presidency". And on top of that Internet Hacks Extraordinaires Superfreak and Damo have expressed outrage.

Surely that's establishment enough for anyone!

IMPEACH!!!!!

Exactly, if Issa couldn't nail him there's nothing to nail.

 

[christiefan915]

they don't care... Dems obviously hate Hispanics.

...just as repubs hate Iraqis.

 

[Jarod]

Weak. So, people who were upset about Bush using it six times just "don't take positions" now.

Seriously. This "it's hypocritical" is nonsense.

Bush used it six times, never once to attempt to stop investigations into acts of war against friendly nations.

I was vocal against it when Bush used it to try to block the names of people brought to the WH to advise on energy policy. Knowing who advises the President is, IMO, important and simply naming them would not stop them from being free with their opinions when advising the President.

I am vocal against it when it is used to try to end investigation into acts by our own government arming criminals where the arms were used to kill agents of a friendly government as well as our own agents.

This is absolutely significant, what happened here matters. And if the WH was not involved, executive privilege does not apply.

Good for you, if you are telling the truth, then you are not one of the hypocrates I am talking about.

 

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Here's the thing about lefties and righties. Both tend to minimize the crap THEIR side does and to demonize the crap the OTHER side does. Bush et al lied about WMD's in Iraq, they lied about Iraq's involvement with Al Qaeda, and righties accused anyone that called them on it as being unpatriotic and loving the terrorists. Obama lied about closing Gitmo, lied about his dislike of the Patriot Act and has basically continued the foreign policy of Bush, and Lefties claim that any criticism of Obama is only political and because the right doesn't like black people being in charge. This is why our system of government is no longer working. We allow the fringes of both parties to dictate to the entire nation. This is not the government that our founders envisioned anymore and it is because both the left and the right have done everything they can to demonize the other side and destroy any attempts at compromise.

I agree with your point, but disagree that you can call what President Obama did with regards to the Patirot Act or Gitmo lies. Here is a basic lesson in civility, when someone says something and later changes his mind... .that is not a lie. When someone says something and is later proven to have been wrong... that was not a lie. A lie is deliberatly saying something that you know at the time to be untrue. Lying is serious accusation and when the term is thrown about so lightly and in situations where it does not fit, its affect is weakened and it makes people feel like real lying is okay.

Save the serious terms for when they fit!

 

[zappasguitar]

Who cares about a murdered US citizen and a bunch of dead Mexicans right?

Well, I know you hadn't spent more than a post or two discussing the subject until you and the conservative talking heads you get your instructions from found out you could use the issue to attack Obama.

 

[zappasguitar]

They're just brown people, what do Democrats care about dead brown people?

Behold our "lover of life" Damo crassly using those self same "dead brown people" to help him belittle Liberals on his message board.

Using the dead to belittle others...it's what conservatives do.

 

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Well, I know you hadn't spent more than a post or two discussing the subject until you and the conservative talking heads you get your instructions from found out you could use the issue to attack Obama.

your ass must get sore from the constant pulling of shit from within.

 

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Behold our "lover of life" Damo crassly using those self same "dead brown people" to help him belittle Liberals on his message board.

Using the dead to belittle others...it's what conservatives do.

Ironic.

 

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Do they have the weapon that killed Agent Terry? Have they performed ballistic test to confirm that the gun used to kill Terry was a F&F weapon?

Thanks

The weapons they found at the scene were assault rifles from F&F, that is confirmed. The bullet that killed Agent Terry was too badly damaged to confirm which weapon it was fired from. So it is impossible to tell with precision what weapon fired it. It it known that that the bullet came from an assault rifle. I know it is a grand leap to assume liberals can connect the dots.

 

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The weapons they found at the scene were assault rifles from F&F, that is confirmed. The bullet that killed Agent Terry was too badly damaged to confirm which weapon it was fired from. So it is impossible to tell with precision what weapon fired it. It it known that that the bullet came from an assault rifle. I know it is a grand leap to assume liberals can connect the dots.

So once again you do not have evidence to back up your hate filled claims.. I understand, not suprising or unusual.

 

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blah blah blah <beats chest> blah blah blah.

So anyway, this statement is no longer operable, correct?:

"It is a fact that one of the guns was used to kill Brian Terry."

It is a fact that he was killed with a bullet from an assault rifle.
It is a fact that assault rifles from F&F were found on site where he was killed, used by those that killed him.

The bullet was too badly damaged to confirm which weapon it came from. I know it is hard for lemmings to connect the dots as you are used to your masters drawing the pictures for you.

 

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So once again you do not have evidence to back up your hate filled claims.. I understand, not suprising or unusual.

Do go on apologizing for Obama and for those that hate brown people. We already know you hate brown people due to your constant attacks on Rubio. So it is not a shocker that you want to defend Darla and her ilk who won't ever care about the dead Mexicans.