No evidence White House involved in ‘Fast and Furious’

Because Obama said so.... and that is all you need to know.

Well lets expand upon that then.

Suppose Obama really had nothing to do with it. That would consequently mean that Holder, without any sort of higher level of dialogue, decided it would be a good idea to break national and international law and arm paramilitary groups in a bordering nation. And that Obama, upon realization that this did indeed occur, is perfectly ok with those facts. And THEN, to add to it, he'll let Holder use "executive privilege", because, ya know, when a high ranking member of your administration that you personally recommended commits an act of war with a valuable trading partner and border nation, completely without your approval or even knowledge, well it's just good business to keep that guy around.
 
Our expert hack and liar Darla is trying her very best to distort reality in her vain attempts to apologize for yet another failed Obama program.

The bullet was too badly damaged to get a definite match. that is true. The FACT that two of the assault weapons used in the firefight that killed Agent Terry were 100% proven to be from F&F is what Darla the hack will ignore. Darla the hack will also ignore the innocent Mexicans killed, because she hates brown people.


Now there is this possibility:
They shot the agent and decided to expose the Fast and Furious program, by leaving the two weapons; but then slipped away, with the real murder weapon.
And then the magic Unicorn brought the baby bunny home and the rabbit family live happy for ever and ever.
 
LMAO... yeah it was the second gunman on the grassy knoll that did it.

It doesn't take a conspiracy to suggest that the two weapons left behind were not the only two weapons involved.


In liberal world, there would never be a conviction on anything because we can almost always use the 'sumthin else might have happened'.

What? All I'm saying is that it is not self-evident that the person that killer Terry used a F&F gun, as you seem to think.


I know other weapons 'could' have been involved. I know that a third weapon (also F&F... has supposedly disappeared.... another conspiracy) was allegedly at the scene. there could have been 1000 Mexican drug lords present... etc...

Based on the evidence at hand... reach the conclusions that you will.

I'm not reaching any conclusions, personally, mainly for the reasons stated in my post. The Mexican cartels have plenty of access to plenty of weapons. Even assuming that Terry's murdered used a F&F gun, it's a really bad coincidence. Nothing more.
 
Well lets expand upon that then.

Suppose Obama really had nothing to do with it. That would consequently mean that Holder, without any sort of higher level of dialogue, decided it would be a good idea to break national and international law and arm paramilitary groups in a bordering nation. And that Obama, upon realization that this did indeed occur, is perfectly ok with those facts. And THEN, to add to it, he'll let Holder use "executive privilege", because, ya know, when a high ranking member of your administration that you personally recommended commits an act of war with a valuable trading partner and border nation, completely without your approval or even knowledge, well it's just good business to keep that guy around.


LOLers. "Arm a paramilitary organization." "Commits an act or war."
 
Facts:
Assault rifles found on site used by those that killed agent
Assault rifles were from F&F
Assault rifle bullet is what killed agent
Assault rifle bullet that killed agent is too badly damaged to determine for sure which weapon it was fired from

Democrats response:
There is no proof he was killed by a F&F weapon.

By your response Rana, there is no way a conviction could ever occur because you can never match the bullet to any gun.

And yet these are the same people who automatically declared Zimmerman of murdering Martin. :palm:
 
Well lets expand upon that then.

Suppose Obama really had nothing to do with it. That would consequently mean that Holder, without any sort of higher level of dialogue, decided it would be a good idea to break national and international law and arm paramilitary groups in a bordering nation. And that Obama, upon realization that this did indeed occur, is perfectly ok with those facts. And THEN, to add to it, he'll let Holder use "executive privilege", because, ya know, when a high ranking member of your administration that you personally recommended commits an act of war with a valuable trading partner and border nation, completely without your approval or even knowledge, well it's just good business to keep that guy around.

precisely... there is no way Holder should still be in place as AG. Regardless of whether Obama did or did not know personally.
 
The weapons they found at the scene were assault rifles from F&F, that is confirmed. The bullet that killed Agent Terry was too badly damaged to confirm which weapon it was fired from. So it is impossible to tell with precision what weapon fired it. It it known that that the bullet came from an assault rifle. I know it is a grand leap to assume liberals can connect the dots.

:rofl2: :rofl2:

Mr. 'Connect the dots'. I guess the dot-connecting only applies some of the time. Right, Superfool?

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-May-Face-Death-Penalty&p=1000546#post1000546
 
It doesn't take a conspiracy to suggest that the two weapons left behind were not the only two weapons involved.

What? All I'm saying is that it is not self-evident that the person that killer Terry used a F&F gun, as you seem to think.

All evidence points to it being the case.

I'm not reaching any conclusions, personally, mainly for the reasons stated in my post. The Mexican cartels have plenty of access to plenty of weapons. Even assuming that Terry's murdered used a F&F gun, it's a really bad coincidence. Nothing more.

LMAO... keep on apologizing... 'nothing to see here shouts Dung, move along'!!!
 
It is a fact that he was killed with a bullet from an assault rifle.
It is a fact that assault rifles from F&F were found on site where he was killed, used by those that killed him.

The bullet was too badly damaged to confirm which weapon it came from. I know it is hard for lemmings to connect the dots as you are used to your masters drawing the pictures for you.

Is it a fact that the only rifles at the scene were from F&F?
 
Is it a fact that the only rifles at the scene were from F&F?

The only rifles recovered at the scene were F&F. Obviously we can all sit here and come up with things that 'might have also been there'. There is no way to prove a negative. So unless someone comes out and says 'hey, I was there and here is the exact inventory that was used'... then I am going to go off of what we do know as facts in the case. If new info comes out, I will be happy to adjust my position if necessary.
 
Yet I don't recall a single instance of repubs OR dems calling IC an act of war.

I was in H.S. back then, I honestly do not recall the exact things people stated about it. That said, we also didn't have 24/7 news and internet chat rooms to discuss it with people across the world.
 
Unfortunately the Brian Terry court records have been sealed, so it may be hard to get further info given the coupling of the sealed records with Obama's exec privilege announcement. Because that pretty much eliminates a lot of info.
 
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