The GOP doesn't have a HC plan

why can't you just accept that there are people don't share your viewpoint? many of us are quite fine with others being uninsured. We don't care about them. It's not our problem. That IS a solution, you just don't like it.

I think there are ways to make health insurance so affordable that there would be virtually no excuse for someone not having it...and in that case (if they aren't destitute), fuck 'em, as far as I'm concerned. The root of the problem is, contrary to Mutt's claims, we do not have a free market health care system. It is no surprise that the two industries where the government is most involved - education and health services - are also the most expensive.
 
Wow. You are clearly one of the more uninformed people I have ever known, do you only read your talking points that you consistently post? What's wrong with you, couldn't find an emotive question?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/111/hr2520

The Patients Choice Act (A quick synopsis)...

1. Puts a major focus on preventative care.
2. Makes insurance agencies compete nationwide for cost.
3. Gives a tax credit to individuals who buy their own care, the same type that an employer gets for providing insurance for an employee.
4. Creates a more cost effective State Centered alternative to Medicaid replacing.
5. Deals with medicare fraud.
6. Provides a more cost effective alternative to CHIP.
7. Allows Native Americans to seek better care outside of the Federal Government's program that has had a monopoly on their care for hundreds of years and treated them like dirt.
8. Works towards better and more quick and effective resolution than litigation for malpractice.

The Health Care Freedom Plan
1. Protects your right to keep your employer based insurance if you choose to do so.
2. Provides Americans without employer-based health insurance with vouchers of $2000 for individuals and $5000 for families to purchase health insurance.
3. Allows Americans with Health Savings Accounts (HSAs) to use their HSA funds to pay for insurance premiums, encouraging employers to contribute to their employees’ HSAs.
4. Creates a national market for health insurance by allowing individuals to purchase health insurance plans in any state.
5. Provides block grants to states to develop innovative models that ensure affordable health insurance coverage for Americans with preexisting health conditions.

Among other benefits...

“Empowering Patients First Act” (One of the crappier ones, IMO).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empowering_Patients_First_Act

Which of these do you favor enacting?
 
I read this Damo and only a moron of stagering proportions can believe these kinds of misrepresentations. Be that as it may. The devil is in the details. This is nothing but, as I said, boiler plate. Show us the specifics of these plans Damo. Put them out there. Show us the beef.

Are you trying to get an emotive response or something?
 
I read this Damo and only a moron of stagering proportions can believe these kinds of misrepresentations. Be that as it may. The devil is in the details. This is nothing but, as I said, boiler plate. Show us the specifics of these plans Damo. Put them out there. Show us the beef.

Apparently Mott is unable to read the thread where I did that after somebody else asked. This is called the distract and lie method of debate, Mott tries to distract from the fact that he was wrong by saying that somebody else didn't provide detail.
 
how old it this article?

it says that democrats control both the house and senate

why has not the house passed any one of the three proposals

do you have links to show what each of the three proposals say

Don, considering, as I stated previously, the fact that the Ds had forced a craptacular law down our throat by the time the Rs took control of congress and the Ds still maintained a one seat majority in the Senate...
 
Bad question. Your question should be what happened when they were presented? Why don't you check on who ran the house at that time and get back to us...

You also apparently don't realize that one of them is a Senate Bill presented to committee and ignored by the Democrat majority.

After the passing of the Obamatax bill, how effective would it be to pass these through one side of the Congress when the other won't even hear them?

Passing these in the House would be as effective as voting to repeal the ACA, which Boehner found time for once and may do again. Two years out and repeal and replace is still lacking the replace component because the Republicans don't give a shit.
 
Republican Healthcare Plan?

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Passing these in the House would be as effective as voting to repeal the ACA, which Boehner found time for once and may do again. Two years out and repeal and replace is still lacking the replace component because the Republicans don't give a shit.

Now, you're just being emotive.

The GOP cares deeply about the poor and sick people of America, as evidenced by their continued, heroic efforts to bring relief to the uninsured.
 
Passing these in the House would be as effective as voting to repeal the ACA, which Boehner found time for once and may do again. Two years out and repeal and replace is still lacking the replace component because the Republicans don't give a shit.

Until one happens the other is useless. Republicans care, they offered these before Obamatax passed, they just believe that it is important to do it without giving the government the power to tax away freedoms.
 
how old it this article?

it says that democrats control both the house and senate

why has not the house passed any one of the three proposals

do you have links to show what each of the three proposals say

1) Because at the time they were presented, the Dems did control both
2) Because now the Same Dem do nothing leadership remains in control of the Senate and we now have to deal with 2000 pages of crap that is Obama care
 
The Republicans do have a health care plan. The Ryan Plan.

Gut Medicare and replace it with vouchers.

After that, you might as well die.
 
Until one happens the other is useless. Republicans care, they offered these before Obamatax passed, they just believe that it is important to do it without giving the government the power to tax away freedoms.

Does multimillionaire Mittzie think the ACA non-coverage penalty is a "tax"?
 
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