US Ambassador to Libya Killed in Attack On American Consulate In Benghazi

Just as a question, what happened to those bits about congress approving war? Seems we've done a great job of making an endrun around those laws. The president just sends troops where he likes and never brings them home, we've got half the US(you know that country in North America) troops spread out from Reykjavik to Kabul.
 
i hope obama is elected, because if mittens is elected, you can bet that there will be more wars in the middle east
Bull.
Obama will war as he sees fit. So will Romney. If you're looking for anything to change, you aren't going to find it in the duopoly.

Iran is a different topic, i'm not all up on it, except Obam doesn't want anything to happen till past his re-election . BEBE is pressing for war now.

Wait till after Nov. Domestic poltics trumps even war policy
 
Not much different from how we turned on Saddam Hussein.

Exactly

The lesson of Gadaffi is never give up your nuclear ambitions. If he had one he'd still be alive like Kim Jung Ill.

Its why the Iranians want one. To protect themselves.
 
The NTC tore him apart at the scene -like a pack of wolves. see if you can find the cell phone footage.
Sodomized him with sticks, They were going to 'try to find a hospital', but someone (mercifully) put a bullet in his head.

They left his body in the frozen foods aisle of some local grocery - which is defilement for a Muslim - they are suposed to be buried the next day.
BTW -whom hit the Gaddafi convoy?? The US.
The NTC are not a "populist uprising" they couldn't gain popular support, even with our bombing them every inch of the way. how can that be a "popular uprising??

They held sub -saharan's in cages for months adterwards.(NTC)
Look. Gadddafi WAS a dictator -no doubt. But his country was better off with him then without. He made the Great Man Made River happen.

Oil revenues were held in the name of the "ppl of Libya"
Another Obama useless freaking war turned to shit / But you won't know any of this, unless you do some reaseach.
I pulled up a WIKILEAKS cable -it's gone from the net, we played Gaddafi, we always operate like that.

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I was trying to be humorous.

I have seen more in the past ten min. Nasty people aren't they.
 
Not to defend dumbocracy in the ME, but are we pretending that Gadaffi was a nice guy?

Is Obama a "nice guy?" He's killing innocent people all over the world.

Was Bush a nice guy?

The question is was Gadaffi good for the Libyan people .. and there is no question that he was.

We invaded Libya like pirates for its resources, not for its people .. and that will backfire as well.
 
Exactly

The lesson of Gadaffi is never give up your nuclear ambitions. If he had one he'd still be alive like Kim Jung Ill.

Its why the Iranians want one. To protect themselves.

We 'befriend' when it suits us and the 'friendships' last about 11 years before we turn on them and they become highly publicized 'enemies'. Noriega's another example.
 
Bull.
Obama will war as he sees fit. So will Romney. If you're looking for anything to change, you aren't going to find it in the duopoly.

Iran is a different topic, i'm not all up on it, except Obam doesn't want anything to happen till past his re-election . BEBE is pressing for war now.

Wait till after Nov. Domestic poltics trumps even war policy

the american public is fed up with wars

we are out of iraq and will be out of afghanistan (unless mittens wins)
 
Bingo again.

I know it doesn't seem to have much to do with what just happened, but as far as I'm concerned, yes it does.

Our leadership's stenographers in the corporate media all have the same stake in what they're selling to the People, and all that 'exceptionalism' horseshit enables the People to collude with a morally abhorrent agenda.

The world is waking up to the fact that the U.S. is not to be trusted. We are dangerous opportunists who utilize terror in the name of 'freedom' to cloak our dark hegemony in something noble for the great unwashed to champion. It's disgusting.
 
I know it doesn't seem to have much to do with what just happened, but as far as I'm concerned, yes it does.

Our leadership's stenographers in the corporate media all have the same stake in what they're selling to the People, and all that 'exceptionalism' horseshit enables the People to collude with a morally abhorrent agenda.

The world is waking up to the fact that the U.S. is not to be trusted. We are dangerous opportunists who utilize terror in the name of 'freedom' to cloak our dark hegemony in something noble for the great unwashed to champion. It's disgusting.

APPLAUSE

The world is realigning because of it.

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World Non-Aligned Movement Summit Resolution Supports Iran
http://en.rian.ru/world/20120901/175553065.html

The number of SCO's partners growing
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_06_09/77642301/

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SCO economies keep growing despite global woes: communique

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia, Nov. 7 (Xinhua) -- Members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) have been able to maintain economic growth and attract investments despite the global downturn, prime ministers of the group said here Monday.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-11/08/c_122247831.htm
 
APPLAUSE

The world is realigning because of it.

175553295.jpg


World Non-Aligned Movement Summit Resolution Supports Iran
http://en.rian.ru/world/20120901/175553065.html

The number of SCO's partners growing
http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_06_09/77642301/

122247831_21n.jpg


SCO economies keep growing despite global woes: communique

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia, Nov. 7 (Xinhua) -- Members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) have been able to maintain economic growth and attract investments despite the global downturn, prime ministers of the group said here Monday.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-11/08/c_122247831.htm

non-aligned is joke

what it really translates to is, you are on top and we want to be on top

if you want to blame someone, blame the financial community
 
Is Obama a "nice guy?" He's killing innocent people all over the world.

Was Bush a nice guy?

The question is was Gadaffi good for the Libyan people .. and there is no question that he was.

We invaded Libya like pirates for its resources, not for its people .. and that will backfire as well.

when you say 'all over the world' could you be a little more specific

while we have troops all over the world (something i disagree with), not all of them are engaged in killing people
 
when you say 'all over the world' could you be a little more specific

while we have troops all over the world (something i disagree with), not all of them are engaged in killing people

Obama is droning the planet.

As CIA Drone War Deaths Increase, So Does Anti-U.S. Sentiment

excerpt --

There is no doubt that the Obama administration’s dedication to death by remote control is an affront to the sovereignty of Pakistan, as well as the other nations whose skies are buzzing with drones. While such a policy is unsupported by the Constitution specifically or by principles of liberty generally, the number of people being killed without being given an opportunity to answer the charges made against them is inimical to the concept of due process, as well. America is making enemies overseas by making herself an enemy to the Constitution.

Sadly, the tally of those killed by American missiles launched from unmanned aerial vehicles under the control of the CIA is growing.

In a report filed by the Pakistan-based Conflict Monitoring Center, additional details of the CIA’s drone war are revealed. The report offers evidence of the many people who were killed by American drones with no more than a suspicion of being linked to militant groups.

According to an analysis of the report by Global Research, in 2010:

The CIA carried out an unprecedented 132 drone attacks in tribal areas, claiming the lives of 938 people, it said. The Conflict Monitoring Center points out that none of the media organizations throughout last year reported on body counts from independent sources. Many analysts believe the geo-strategic game plan of the US has turned out to be counterproductive. The year 2010 was one of the deadliest years for civilians living in the tribal regions, as the number of drone strikes exceeded the combined number of such attacks carried out from 2004 to 2009. The report states that 2,052 people lost their lives in drone strikes during the 5-year period between 2004 and 2009. The rising civilian causalities have left behind many tragic stories in the tribal areas.

Pakistan is not the CIA’s only target for drone attacks, however. As reported by BIJ, Yemen and Somalia have seen increases in drone activity in 2012, as well.
http://thenewamerican.com/world-new...war-deaths-increase-so-does-anti-us-sentiment

US drone attacks killed 700 civilians, officials say
http://www.thenational.ae/news/us-drone-attacks-killed-700-civilians-officials-say

At Least 10 Civilians Have Been Killed By A US Drone Strike And No One Is Responsibile
http://www.businessinsider.com/no-o...an-drone-deaths-in-yemen-2012-9#ixzz26IbUewvD

Misdirected Drone Attack Kills 13 Yemeni Civilians
http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=5926

Obama’s 262 Drone Strikes in Pakistan
A map of all the reported attacks—five times as many under Obama as under Bush.

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I could post lots and lots of evidence of Obama's dronewars that are killing more civilians than actual terrorists .. and the rising anti-americanism that comes with them..
 
Obama is droning the planet.

As CIA Drone War Deaths Increase, So Does Anti-U.S. Sentiment

excerpt --

There is no doubt that the Obama administration’s dedication to death by remote control is an affront to the sovereignty of Pakistan, as well as the other nations whose skies are buzzing with drones. While such a policy is unsupported by the Constitution specifically or by principles of liberty generally, the number of people being killed without being given an opportunity to answer the charges made against them is inimical to the concept of due process, as well. America is making enemies overseas by making herself an enemy to the Constitution.

Sadly, the tally of those killed by American missiles launched from unmanned aerial vehicles under the control of the CIA is growing.

In a report filed by the Pakistan-based Conflict Monitoring Center, additional details of the CIA’s drone war are revealed. The report offers evidence of the many people who were killed by American drones with no more than a suspicion of being linked to militant groups.

According to an analysis of the report by Global Research, in 2010:

The CIA carried out an unprecedented 132 drone attacks in tribal areas, claiming the lives of 938 people, it said. The Conflict Monitoring Center points out that none of the media organizations throughout last year reported on body counts from independent sources. Many analysts believe the geo-strategic game plan of the US has turned out to be counterproductive. The year 2010 was one of the deadliest years for civilians living in the tribal regions, as the number of drone strikes exceeded the combined number of such attacks carried out from 2004 to 2009. The report states that 2,052 people lost their lives in drone strikes during the 5-year period between 2004 and 2009. The rising civilian causalities have left behind many tragic stories in the tribal areas.

Pakistan is not the CIA’s only target for drone attacks, however. As reported by BIJ, Yemen and Somalia have seen increases in drone activity in 2012, as well.
http://thenewamerican.com/world-new...war-deaths-increase-so-does-anti-us-sentiment

US drone attacks killed 700 civilians, officials say
http://www.thenational.ae/news/us-drone-attacks-killed-700-civilians-officials-say

At Least 10 Civilians Have Been Killed By A US Drone Strike And No One Is Responsibile
http://www.businessinsider.com/no-o...an-drone-deaths-in-yemen-2012-9#ixzz26IbUewvD

Misdirected Drone Attack Kills 13 Yemeni Civilians
http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=5926

Obama’s 262 Drone Strikes in Pakistan
A map of all the reported attacks—five times as many under Obama as under Bush.

1339115256928.png.CROP.rectangle2-mediumsmall.png


I could post lots and lots of evidence of Obama's dronewars that are killing more civilians than actual terrorists .. and the rising anti-americanism that comes with them..

Can't be. Everyone loves Maobama. Has to be Bushs fault
 
cnn live just said that the film maker is an israeli american and was financed by 100 jews who contributed $5 million to make the film

i guess that they wanted to provoke the attacks to sway american opinion against islam

the administration (hilary and obama) are blaming the attacks on a 'small violent' islamic faction

California man confirms role in anti-Islam film amid mystery over movie and its makers

http://ww2.cox.com/myconnection/arizona/today/news/national/article.cox?moduleType=apNews&articleId=DA18GS100
 
Obama is droning the planet.

As CIA Drone War Deaths Increase, So Does Anti-U.S. Sentiment

excerpt --

There is no doubt that the Obama administration’s dedication to death by remote control is an affront to the sovereignty of Pakistan, as well as the other nations whose skies are buzzing with drones. While such a policy is unsupported by the Constitution specifically or by principles of liberty generally, the number of people being killed without being given an opportunity to answer the charges made against them is inimical to the concept of due process, as well. America is making enemies overseas by making herself an enemy to the Constitution.

Sadly, the tally of those killed by American missiles launched from unmanned aerial vehicles under the control of the CIA is growing.

In a report filed by the Pakistan-based Conflict Monitoring Center, additional details of the CIA’s drone war are revealed. The report offers evidence of the many people who were killed by American drones with no more than a suspicion of being linked to militant groups.

According to an analysis of the report by Global Research, in 2010:

The CIA carried out an unprecedented 132 drone attacks in tribal areas, claiming the lives of 938 people, it said. The Conflict Monitoring Center points out that none of the media organizations throughout last year reported on body counts from independent sources. Many analysts believe the geo-strategic game plan of the US has turned out to be counterproductive. The year 2010 was one of the deadliest years for civilians living in the tribal regions, as the number of drone strikes exceeded the combined number of such attacks carried out from 2004 to 2009. The report states that 2,052 people lost their lives in drone strikes during the 5-year period between 2004 and 2009. The rising civilian causalities have left behind many tragic stories in the tribal areas.

Pakistan is not the CIA’s only target for drone attacks, however. As reported by BIJ, Yemen and Somalia have seen increases in drone activity in 2012, as well.
http://thenewamerican.com/world-new...war-deaths-increase-so-does-anti-us-sentiment

US drone attacks killed 700 civilians, officials say
http://www.thenational.ae/news/us-drone-attacks-killed-700-civilians-officials-say

At Least 10 Civilians Have Been Killed By A US Drone Strike And No One Is Responsibile
http://www.businessinsider.com/no-o...an-drone-deaths-in-yemen-2012-9#ixzz26IbUewvD

Misdirected Drone Attack Kills 13 Yemeni Civilians
http://www.yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=3&SubID=5926

Obama’s 262 Drone Strikes in Pakistan
A map of all the reported attacks—five times as many under Obama as under Bush.

1339115256928.png.CROP.rectangle2-mediumsmall.png


I could post lots and lots of evidence of Obama's dronewars that are killing more civilians than actual terrorists .. and the rising anti-americanism that comes with them..

three nations is hardly the whole world

your post lists pakistan, yemen and somalia, however, i think they are also being used in afghanistan, but i am not sure

still the current usage is limited to three to four nations in one geographic area (although somalia is outside the middle east)

still, the use does not include the whole world

while we have troops stationed all over the world, and it looks like we are getting ready to get in to a match with china, we are not killing people in those places...yet

i would be happier if we did not have troops stationed all over the world though

also, i prefer using drones instead of troops on the ground that can be killed by ieds

i would also, be happier if we pulled out of afghanistan as soon as physically possible
 
I take offense at the notion that "America" did this, or "we" supported this... OBAMA did this, OBAMA supported this! Most of us were screaming at the top of our lungs about what was happening in Egypt and Libya, while pinhead moronic liberals danced in the street over the wonderful and glorious "Arab Spring!" WE told you this would be a disaster! WE warned you this was not going to end well for us! "WE" as in the TEA PARTY!

Don't try to now lay this shit at OUR feet!
 
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