The Death of the Southern Strategy.

Mott the Hoople

Sweet Jane
I was driving across the state the other day to go visit my brother and I listened to right wing radio just to hear what new propaganda they were spewing. Little did I realize that they are in full blown panic mode about the polls and the significant bounce Obama recieved after the Democratic convention. It was hillareous. They were rolling out one conspiracy theory after the other. I hope everyone realizes that there was no bounce for Obama. It's just a conspiracy by the leftist media. Mitt is actually kicking his ass. :rolleyes:

Now the tracking polls are showing that in the swing States Obama recieved such a large bounce in michigan that it's no longer considered a toss up State. That puts Obama dangerously close to the 270 electoral votes he needs. Not only that but the polls are showing Obama recieved significant bounces in both Ohio and Florida. If Mitt loses either of those States the fat lady can start singing. It's all over for him.

So how does this spell the end of the Southern Strategy? Because demographics have changed.

From 1968 the Republicans have brilliantly exploited the racial and cultural resentments of southern whites. Republican control of the White House for 28 of the last 44 years and Congress for 16 of the last 18 years is firmly rooted in the overwhelming support from southern whites. The southern strategy has been premised on the souths unique identity of a more rural, less educated, more militaristic, more religious, less tolerant and more racially bigoted white population. It has worked brilliantly in southern regions where backwardness has not changed.

The problem for the GOP is that modernity has invaded the south. Standards of education there are creeping upwards. Immigration of better educated whites and middle class racial minorities from northern States have changed the demographics, particularly in key southern States (Virginia, North Carolina, Florida and to a lesser extent Georgia).

It gets worse for the GOP. The southern strategy has alienated large segments of the population across the nation. Considering the declining population growth of whites in our country that's a serious problem. Over 90% of blacks vote Democrat. Two thirds of Latin Americans vote democratic. Over 90% of the GLBT community vote Democratic. Over 60% of women vote Democratic. Over 60% of those under 25 vote Democratic. The southern strategy is doomed by the numbers. There simply isn't enough angry white men to go around. To win election using the southern strategy the GOP will require white voter turnout of 74% with 60% of those whites voting for Romney. Considering declining white demographics, that's not likely to happen.

So it's do or die time for the Southern Strategy. If Mitt looses and it's looking pretty good that he will, this will probably be the end of the southern strategy for the Presidency as they will no longer be able to build a ruling coalition using it. It can probably exist for a few more election cycles for congressional elections but when that dies, then so does the GOP's southern strategy at the State level.

So if President Obama wins re-election the historical significance will be the end of the political over representation of the southern states. It will be interesting to see what direction the GOP will take from there.
 
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You make this same stupid proclamation every time the polls shift in Obama's favor. Then, when the polls recede and put Michigan back in the toss up column, you go strangely quiet.
 
You make this same stupid proclamation every time the polls shift in Obama's favor. Then, when the polls recede and put Michigan back in the toss up column, you go strangely quiet.
No I haven't. You just don't listen. I've been saying the same exact thing since May. If the election were to occur right now Obama would win.
 
No I haven't. You just don't listen. I've been saying the same exact thing since May. If the election were to occur right now Obama would win.

The election is in two months moron, a point you continue to forget. You also continue to ignore that Michigan continues to swing in and out of the toss up category.

As I stated, you go strangely quite when it falls back into the toss up category.
 
Mischigan has never been in the Romney collum.

I would say its never been much of a toss up.
 
No I haven't. You just don't listen. I've been saying the same exact thing since May. If the election were to occur right now Obama would win.

Side note Mutt: did you happen to notice that EPIC poll? It has Obama leading by 10%... sounds great until you look and see that it has 16% undecided.

Tell us Mutt... which way do undecided voters tend to break?
 
The election is in two months moron, a point you continue to forget. You also continue to ignore that Michigan continues to swing in and out of the toss up category.

As I stated, you go strangely quite when it falls back into the toss up category.
OH you're just being obtuse....as I have often said (though for other reasons) fuck michigan. I'll stand by my statement. If the election were held today Obama would win.
 
Only getting the white racist vote is no longer going to be a winning strategy
Really if you think about it the Southern strategy has been a loser for quite a while. Clinton proved that. Why do you think southern conservatives hate him and his wife so passionately? Cause they veiw him as an apostate. The Republican candidates using the southern strategy have lost the popular vote in Presidential elections in the last 5 elections.
 
Really if you think about it the Southern strategy has been a loser for quite a while. Clinton proved that. Why do you think southern conservatives hate him and his wife so passionately? Cause they veiw him as an apostate. The Republican candidates using the southern strategy have lost the popular vote in Presidential elections in the last 5 elections.

Link us up to the popular vote totals....

Cause I am pretty sure that Bush won the popular vote in 2004... Dole never had a chance in 96 against Clinton. 1992 Perot played a large role in Bush senior not winning the popular vote. Which leaves us with GW Bush's first term and 2008 where the Dems tried hard to fuck up, but the Reps were far superior in the fuck up department that year.
 
OH you're just being obtuse....as I have often said (though for other reasons) fuck michigan. I'll stand by my statement. If the election were held today Obama would win.

Obtuse? No moron, I am being realistic. The election is not being held today, thus making proclamations that Romney is in trouble or in panic mode blah blah blah two months prior to the election (or worse... in May) is retarded. Especially given the fact that the polls keep swinging back and forth.
 
Mott you were predicting Democratic victories in the 2010 mid-term elections even as the polls started showing swings to the Republicans. And Desh proclaimed over and over the death of the Republican Party post 2008 election. Not that people can't make predictions on this board but there's a reason they say in Vegas don't make bets with your heart.
 
Mott you were predicting Democratic victories in the 2010 mid-term elections even as the polls started showing swings to the Republicans. And Desh proclaimed over and over the death of the Republican Party post 2008 election. Not that people can't make predictions on this board but there's a reason they say in Vegas don't make bets with your heart.
But I'm not making a prediction. I'm stating a fact based on sound statistics. Based on the numbers there is a better than 67% probability (1 standard deviation) that Obama would win if the election were held today. The conclusion that can be drawn based on the tracking polls, past presidential elections and population demographics is that the GOP's candidate is substantially behind the president and that the southern strategy is now a failing strategy in Presidential politics.
 
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