He said a lot more than that, he accused ALL of those who dont pay Federal Income Tax of being slackers, dependent on the government.
Stunning Shocker: Left-Wing Site Unearths Video of Romney Speaking Like Conservative!
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He said a lot more than that, he accused ALL of those who dont pay Federal Income Tax of being slackers, dependent on the government.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
He seems to be blaming left-wing media for what comes out of right-wing mouths.
From the right ..
Time for an Intervention
By Peggy Noonan
What should Mitt Romney do now? He should peer deep into the abyss. He should look straight into the heart of darkness where lies a Republican defeat in a year the Republican presidential candidate almost couldn’t lose. He should imagine what it will mean for the country, for a great political philosophy, conservatism, for his party and, last, for himself. He must look down unblinkingly.
And then he needs to snap out of it, and move.
He has got seven weeks. He’s just had two big flubs. On the Mideast he seemed like a political opportunist, not big and wise but small and tinny. It mattered because the crisis was one of those moments when people look at you and imagine you as president.
Then his comments released last night and made months ago at the private fundraiser in Boca Raton, Fla. Mr. Romney has relearned what four years ago Sen. Barack Obama learned: There’s no such thing as private when you’re a candidate with a mic. There’s someone who doesn’t like you in that audience. There’s someone with a cellphone. Mr. Obama’s clinger comments became famous in 2008 because when people heard what he’d said, they thought, “That’s the real him, that’s him when he’s talking to his friends.”
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And so a quick denunciation of what Mr. Romney said, followed by some ideas.
The central problem revealed by the tape is Romney’s theory of the 2012 election. It is that a high percentage of the electorate receives government checks and therefore won’t vote for him, another high percentage is supplying the tax revenues and will vote for him, and almost half the people don’t pay taxes and presumably won’t vote for him.
My goodness, that’s a lot of people who won’t vote for you. You wonder how he gets up in the morning.
This is not how big leaders talk, it’s how shallow campaign operatives talk: They slice and dice the electorate like that, they see everything as determined by this interest or that. They’re usually young enough and dumb enough that nobody holds it against them, but they don’t know anything. They don’t know much about America.
We are a big, complicated nation. And we are human beings. We are people. We have souls. We are complex. We are not data points. Many things go into our decisions and our political affiliations.
You have to be sophisticated to know that. And if you’re operating at the top of national politics, you’re supposed to be sophisticated
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As for those workers who don’t pay any income taxes, they pay payroll taxes—Social Security and Medicare. They want to rise in the world and make more money. They’d like to file a 1040 because that will mean they got a raise or a better job.
They too are potential Romney voters, because they’re suffering under the no-growth economy.
So: Romney’s theory of the case is all wrong. His understanding of the political topography is wrong.
And his tone is fatalistic. I can’t win these guys who will only vote their economic interests, but I can win these guys who will vote their economic interests, plus some guys in the middle, whoever they are.
That’s too small and pinched and narrow. That’s not how Republicans emerge victorious—”I can’t win these guys.” You have to have more respect than that, and more affection, you don’t write anyone off, you invite everyone in. Reagan in 1984 used to put out his hand: “Come too, come walk with me.” Come join, come help, whatever is happening in your life.
You know what Romney sounded like? Like a kid new to politics who thinks he got the inside lowdown on how it works from some operative. But those old operatives, they never know how it works. They knew how it worked for one cycle back in the day
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It’s time to admit the Romney campaign is an incompetent one. It’s not big, it’s not brave, it’s not thoughtfully tackling great issues. It’s always been too small for the moment. All the activists, party supporters and big donors should be pushing for change. People want to focus on who at the top is least constructive and most responsible. Fine, but Mitt Romney is no puppet: He chooses who to listen to. An intervention is in order. “Mitt, this isn’t working.”
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... an intervention is needed.
http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2012/09/18/time-for-an-intervention/
Who are Romney supporters going to blame that on? Liberals?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
no....they all know who he was really referring to.....it's only liberals who are confused....
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
:0)
Are you like stuck somewhere on the moon and out of communication with the real world?
Real the Noonan article above .. then read this ..
Republican Candidates Signal Concern On Mitt Romney Video Comments
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/18/mitt-romney-comments-gop_n_1895270.html
Be my guest and blame that on Obama.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
they're concerned because they think he's giving the liberals ammunition.....this ignores the fact liberals manufacture their own.......in the long run it doesn't matter.......the left has offered us a candidate that wants another four years to do what he promised to do four years ago and didn't......a candidate that can't even get his own party to cast a single vote in favor of his budgets.......a candidate who complained about a $5trillion national debt and gave us another $6trillion......a candidate who tried to blame his failed foreign policy on a movie that no one has ever seen.....
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
A. Neither Noonan nor either of the senate candidates were complaing about "liberals." They all spoke to a 'we're all in this together' mindset, which is good to hear coming from republicans.
B. Republicans have awakened to the reality that Romney is not only bad for the top of the ticket, he's bad for republican races downstream.
Could Obama be beaten? Absolutely he COULD have been, but you teabaggers chased all the sane republicans out of the party.
Now you're left with garbage. Tea Party garbage.
If Obama's first was truly liberal... even left wing liberal. But still better than Mccain or Romney.
christiefan915
Catalyst
"Over a conservative talking like a conservative and laying out facts."
Precious little fact and a whole boatload of opinion. If Mitt doesn't understand the insult in saying 47% are " dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it etc.", then he's too tone-deaf to head this country.
And re: his comment about not paying taxes, take it up with the IRS. People take whichever exemptions the tax code allows. Mitt himself is quite familiar with keeping as much money as he can and paying out as little as the tax law allows.
Precious little fact and a whole boatload of opinion. If Mitt doesn't understand the insult in saying 47% are " dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it etc.", then he's too tone-deaf to head this country.
And re: his comment about not paying taxes, take it up with the IRS. People take whichever exemptions the tax code allows. Mitt himself is quite familiar with keeping as much money as he can and paying out as little as the tax law allows.
Who would you have preferred? Pawlenty was very full of ... 5% growth... lol
The other mormon seemed ok.
Paul seemed to benefit from the tea party but his baggage would have been hard to shed.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Romney didn't include vets, you did. Romney didn't include SS beneficiaries, you did. ACCORDING TO YOU, Romney said these things, but his actual statement doesn't. That is my point, YOU have interjected these people as examples of what Romney was talking about. This clearly wasn't who he was talking about.
They ARE part of the 47%. Anyone in a combat zone was among the 47%. You called them deadbeats.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No, they aren't among the 47% Romney was talking about, YOU put them there. Shameful! Who would have ever thought you had such low regard for seniors and vets?
They DID NOT pay income taxes if they were in a combat zone. They are part of the 47%, troll.
They're part of the 47% whether you like it or not, rube.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Like I said before, I have relatives who were/are combat vets, they DO pay income taxes. Sorry! You are just fucking wrong about that. They pay income taxes, and so do Social Security recipients, as has been pointed out by many a pinhead. Granted, their tax liability might not be a lot, but they aren't among the 47% Romney was speaking of. YOU put them in that category. YOU made them into moochers and parasites, not Romney.
Yeah, that was last election, it didn't work then, so you need new material!
Argue it with the IRS Dixie.
Many people on SS pay no income taxes. They file and get a full return. Only the well off SS recipients pay income taxes to fund all those "deadbeats" (your words) in combat zones who "have no interest in their government" (breitbart's words) and are among the 47% who will vote for Obama (paraphrase of Romney's words).