Expanded background checks....

[Billy the Great Khan]

Are you against closing the loophole on background checks at Gun Shows?

It's NOT a loophole. I don't know how many times this has been explained to you.

If so why? I cant understand the opposition to this bill, why were the Republicans trying to fillabuster it?

Because it is an unnecessary burden on law abiding citizens doing a completely legal activity with legal property. Yeah, clearly we need to restrict that.

Do you belive guns should be available for convicted murderers and insane people to buy, as long as the purchase is done at a Gun Show?

You're retarded.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Sure there is a loophole, if you buy a gun at a shop, they must check your background, if you buy one at a gunshow, that check is not required.

No....if you buy from a FFL you ALWAYS have to do a background check and 4473. Jarod, seriously 5 minutes on Google will answer 99% of your idiotic misconceptions.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

False I am correct.

No, you are not. You are as wrong as wrong can be.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Ok, Ill agree that what you say is a face....

That does not mean that there is not a gun show loophole.

So what IS this mighty loophole then Jarod? What magic portal occurs at guns shows that doesn't occur elsewhere?

 

[Jarod]

It's NOT a loophole. I don't know how many times this has been explained to you.


Because it is an unnecessary burden on law abiding citizens doing a completely legal activity with legal property. Yeah, clearly we need to restrict that.

You're retarded.

"You're retarded" - Thats a brillant argument there.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

"You're retarded" - Thats a brillant argument there.

He was describing your method of posting all the misconceptions about gun shows that you heard from some left wing nut that you didn't bother to verify the accuracy of.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

"You're retarded" - Thats a brillant argument there.

It's not an argument. It's a statement of fact. In the same league is that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

 

[Jarod]

So what IS this mighty loophole then Jarod? What magic portal occurs at guns shows that doesn't occur elsewhere?

The loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

The loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

That's not a loophole. It's a fucking felony to attempt that if you are not a FFL. That's the law WORKING AS DESIGNED.

And this is why manadtory backgrounds checks should be fought. Because it is a de facto END to private sales. It means that two law abiding people with legal property cannot exchange it. That's a violation of the 2A, 4A, 5A, 9A and 10A. It's rare for one argument to try and invalidate 50% of the BoR, but damned if you don't make it here. And you wonder why people would oppose it.

 

[Jarod]

That's not a loophole. It's a fucking felony to attempt that if you are not a FFL. That's the law WORKING AS DESIGNED.

And this is why manadtory backgrounds checks should be fought. Because it is a de facto END to private sales. It means that two law abiding people with legal property cannot exchange it. That's a violation of the 2A, 4A, 5A, 9A and 10A. It's rare for one argument to try and invalidate 50% of the BoR, but damned if you don't make it here. And you wonder why people would oppose it.

The law in Congress is not an end to private sales. I would still be allowed to advertise my gun in the paper and sell it. (I disagree that this should be legal, but even after this bill passes it will be legal.)

What is happening now, is that people "not engaged in the business" can legally get a booth at a Gun Show and sell them without a background check. It is HUGE business and happens all the time. I know many police officers who are very upset by this loophole and they know criminals who use this option to get guns.

 

[Phantasmal]

The law in Congress is not an end to private sales. I would still be allowed to advertise my gun in the paper and sell it. (I disagree that this should be legal, but even after this bill passes it will be legal.)

What is happening now, is that people "not engaged in the business" can legally get a booth at a Gun Show and sell them without a background check. It is HUGE business and happens all the time. I know many police officers who are very upset by this loophole and they know criminals who use this option to get guns.

I see guns in garage sales up here. It isn't a huge market, but it is a market that allows anyone to obtain a gun fairly easily!

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

I see guns in garage sales up here. It isn't a huge market, but it is a market that allows anyone to obtain a gun fairly easily!

Yes, heaven forbid people exercise their rights easily. We ought make it as un-fucking-comfortable as possible so only the wealthy can do it. Then we can go back to Feudalism, where the wealthy own all the land and the public offices and means to ultimate petition for redress.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

And how would these checks be enforced Jarod? I'd just predate all my bills of sale to 2012. Or use bitcoins so it wasn't a sale at all and therefore not covered under the law.

 

[Jarod]

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[Billy the Great Khan]

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Laws working as designed are now a loophole.

 

[Phantasmal]

Yes, heaven forbid people exercise their rights easily. We ought make it as un-fucking-comfortable as possible so only the wealthy can do it. Then we can go back to Feudalism, where the wealthy own all the land and the public offices and means to ultimate petition for redress.

Billy, this is the avenue by which pople with who can't purchase a gun because of mental illness or felonies buy guns. They would be turned away by a dealer. I don't have a problem with private sales, otherwise.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

The loophole in the law allows individuals not “engaged in the business” of selling firearms to sell guns without a license—and without processing any paperwork. That means that two out of every five guns sold in the United States change hands without a background check.

Which is bullshit to begin with.

1) 60% of guns are sold in stores... not gun shows... as that states
2) But 50-60% of guns sold at gun shows are sold by those holding FFL's, which means another 20% goes through background checks right there. So that takes us up to 80%.

3) Seven states require EVERYONE to get a background check at a gun show... so that adds to the total. Those states are

• California
• Colorado
• Connecticut
• Illinois
• New York
• Oregon
• Rhode Island

So CA, NY and IL... three of the most populous states in the country (1,3,5) are included. New Jersey only has one gun show and it doesn't allow guns to be sold there. So add number 11 in population to the list.

4) Another dozen or so states require a background on handguns, but not long guns.... so even more to the total.

You are probably pushing close to 85-90%. And that is being conservative with the numbers.

 

[NOVA]

No....if you buy from a FFL you ALWAYS have to do a background check and 4473. Jarod, seriously 5 minutes on Google will answer 99% of your idiotic misconceptions.

Thats why hes a Democrat....hes uninformed....one week watching Fox News could fix that.....

 

[Jarod]

Laws working as designed are now a loophole.

Absolutly, when a loophole was built into the law.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Billy, this is the avenue by which pople with who can't purchase a gun because of mental illness or felonies buy guns. They would be turned away by a dealer. I don't have a problem with private sales, otherwise.

Well, I've proposed two much better solutions that don't interfere with other peoples rights. Open the NICS to non-FFLs, or put a stamp on the state ID.