Fast Food Workers Protest Poverty McWages

pisskop said:
Any Communism we get will be internally made. I dont' foresee a people's revolution, not with all the distractions like tv, media, video games, the largestt most expensive armed forces in the world . . .
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You're right...in a sense....it will be internal....not because of the dumb shit you mentioned...but because people will tire of being shit on and vote for more and more "left" candidates and put them into office. They will appoint more "left" SCOTUS Justices, and believe me....I know you guys love to throw around the Socialist/Marxist label around as naturally as a whore gets down on her knees....but if you think us Dems are Marxists....wait till you get to meet the real ones.
 
Steelplate said:
You're right...in a sense....it will be internal....not because of the dumb shit you mentioned...but because people will tire of being shit on and vote for more and more "left" candidates and put them into office. They will appoint more "left" SCOTUS Justices, and believe me....I know you guys love to throw around the Socialist/Marxist label around as naturally as a whore gets down on her knees....but if you think us Dems are Marxists....wait till you get to meet the real ones.
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It's part of the reason I'm so overt when discussing my socialism. People are so used to seeing liberals cower at the term "Marxist", so I embrace it. Left radicalism isn't a topic many of us have experience with, so putting it out there makes folks uncomfortable - which is good, in the long run.
 
Steelplate said:
The crazy thing is....all it would take is some common sense, empathy and compassion to set things right. It need not be some massive overhaul of our system.

If those on top of the food chain would realize that, while there's nothing wrong with being wealthy, the everyday working person is struggling mightily, and while government plays a role in that, they themselves are also to blame.
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Haha, they play a huge role. And they know it. You wouldn't see this level of hegemony if they didn't.
 
pisskop said:
Any Communism we get will be internally made. I dont' foresee a people's revolution, not with all the distractions like tv, media, video games, the largestt most expensive armed forces in the world . . .
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Yeah, if we see communism, it won't come from a revolution. It'll come from a combination of a need based cultural shift and large scale organization from a kind of workers' party.
 
Libertad! said:
It's part of the reason I'm so overt when discussing my socialism. People are so used to seeing liberals cower at the term "Marxist", so I embrace it. Left radicalism isn't a topic many of us have experience with, so putting it out there makes folks uncomfortable - which is good, in the long run.
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I don't think that I'm so much a socialist, but a Capitalist that recognizes that a hybrid of a Capitalist base with a healthy dose of Socialist policies that protect the vast majority of the citizenry is the most logical system to use.

I mean, if we are going to be part of a global economy, that means our competition is the rest of the countries of the world. Almost every one of which has governmental policies such as health care and education up to and including college.

But we, on the other hand....force those costs onto the workforce out of pocket. Yes, conservatives.... I know that employers cover most of health care....but that's still wages that could be at least partially given to the worker if we had the policies in place....split 50/50?

Education is much the same...we force our kids to go 50k+ in debt before they even start their lives. Then if the needs of industry change, they are in all that debt and have nothing to show for it. We need a flexible system where the needs of industry are met without burdening people.

Why do we embrace this system?

1. Because for some reason....everything....including the Health of our citizens and the educating of our youth just HAS to be a "for profit" proposition.

2. Like it or not....putting people in debt and an employer based Health Care system serves a purpose. It puts people in a desperate situation. Desperation...be it student loan debt, the need for health insurance for our families...or both....makes for a workforce who has little power over their situation other than to go into MORE debt and hope that shit doesn't change again. This puts virtually all the power in the hands of the employer...and furthermore, is skewed towards conglomerates.
Of course, one could try to somehow find the capital ( good luck) to start a business of their own and pray to god that it doesn't fail before you start making a profit.
 
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