For Darla... three articles on Krugman from Huffpost...

Aoxomoxoa said:
Truly pathetic, you told me it was Daily Mail spin yet the Telegraph says the exact same goddamn thing, you are so desperate to be right that it is really sad. Your whole burlesque routine is getting very old, time to hang up the feather boas and nipple tassles.
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The Daily Mail spin was he claim that OBR said that Cameron's austerity policies were not responsible for the prolonged economic malaise your country is experiencing. OBR said no such thing. I quoted its report earlier. Try to keep up.


Edit: The Daily Mail didn't spin. It lied. You liked it.
 
Dungheap said:
The Daily Mail spin was he claim that OBR said that Cameron's austerity policies were not responsible for the prolonged economic malaise your country is experiencing. OBR said no such thing. I quoted its report earlier. Try to keep up.


Edit: The Daily Mail didn't spin. It lied. You liked it.
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The Telegraph said the exact same thing, it is truly fucking laughable how you cling to the report of the left wing Guardian as if it were written on tablets of stone and passed down from Mount Sinai.
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The Telegraph said the exact same thing, it is truly fucking laughable how you cling to the report of the left wing Guardian as if it were written on tablets of stone and passed down from Mount Sinai.
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I'm not "clinging" to anything. I have simply quoted, verbatim, the OBR report. It's you, my friend, relying exclusively on secondary sources.

Is there anything else? Or are we finished here?
 
tekkychick said:
And here in the US - analysis says if Repubs hadn't forced austerity on us, unemployment would be below 6%

http://www.examiner.com/article/report-unemployment-would-be-below-6-percent-if-the-gop-didn-t-force-austerity
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This is no mystery austerity is nothing less than forced economic contraction. That is what the Republicans have been doing in the hopes of winning an election, so far it hasn't worked for them but they haven't stopped trying to bring the people of the country to their knees in the hopes of getting the majority of the citizenry to finally blame the Democrats for their problems and get them to vote in the Republicans.
 
The Dude said:
Outside of the royal family, have you seen a Britt who didn't have jacked up teeth!
No wonder he has rape fetish, American girls don't go for guys who can eat corn on the Cobb through a fence.
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It's so true. Maybe we should all have to post pictures of our teeth before gaining posting privileges. I have already posted mine and am happy to do so again at the slightest provocation. They're gorgeous!

It's one way to keep the English riff-raff out...
 
Dantès said:
What makes you think she or anyone else would even waste time reading this pablum let alone Refuting it. Anyone who thinks that the administration has been following Krugman's plan has not read enough Krugman. I wouldn't waste my time with Ferguson, he's a hack adn a pretty worthless one at that, but I have read all of Krugman's mainstream writing (not all his academic writing) since Fuzzy Math (2000) and he is not going to pigeonholed by the likes of Niall Ferguson. But for those who haven't read Krugman, they might think Ferguson actually knows something. It's been demonstrated on numerous occasions that he is a hack. You have said absolutely nothing here to lead me to believe you have even read these three essays and certainly nothing to convince me that Ferguson isn't up to his usual level of hackery here!
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So essentially what you are saying is you are yet another hack from the left that refuses to read the articles. Understood.
 
Dantès said:
Why don't you tell us the important points in the articles and let us see what it is you have yourself all wound up about. You keep telling us to read the articles and yet you have not once given us even one meaningful detail concerning anything in the articles. If you can't at least tell us what you think Ferguson says that is correct and tell us why you believe it is correct then we really have nothing to debate with you about do we? Saying That Ferguson is correct and Krugman is wrong is really not a sound opening for a discussion with you is it? All we have to say which many of us have is that actually Ferguson is talking out his butt most of the time and Krugman isn't and that is given the amount of detail in any of your posts here, as good a rebuttal as we need. Because you aren't saying anything more than that anyway are you? When you describe exactly what gems of wisdom you think, that is actually write more than a single damn sentence at a time about this subject, then we might have something to rebut until them we don't and we are not willing to wade through three versions of something to get to your point. This would be like me listing a book on Amazon and saying this author is great and speaks the truth and so and so author is wrong. That says nothing and you are saying nothing here and then asking us to refute it. Don't give us a series of insipid, and pedantic right wing articles to read, tell us what you think and why and we'll discuss it with you. But what you are doing here is ridiculous and shows that you don't know Ferguson any more than you do Krugman and evidently you can't write which means think well enough to actually articulate what it is you find so enlightening in those articles.
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So in other words, you don't even bother reading what has been posted and you make bullshit accusations because it makes you feel special?

I posted direct quotes from the article... quotes that the left on this board ran away from.
 
Darla said:
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You and SF don't run this place and I'll talk about whatever the fuck I want to talk about. Let me know if you have any questions. Or better yet, fuck off.
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Do you honestly not get the complete IRONY in this?

You have been whining repeatedly about how I supposedly try to bully and change the topic of threads... now this... friggin hilarious.
 
Darla said:
It's so true. Maybe we should all have to post pictures of our teeth before gaining posting privileges. I have already posted mine and am happy to do so again at the slightest provocation. They're gorgeous!

It's one way to keep the English riff-raff out...
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I swear you must be the shallowest nation on the planet, maybe you should also show a picture of your arse as well. Nice to see that you are getting on so well with the Cajun coonass, enjoy it, the twat will be banned before too long. Oh by the way, for the umpteenth time I am Irish born in England.
 
Superfreak said:
So in other words, you don't even bother reading what has been posted and you make bullshit accusations because it makes you feel special?

I posted direct quotes from the article... quotes that the left on this board ran away from.
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I know you posted a whole damn list of quotes and quotes and more quotes but you never made a coherent and articulate statement about the article in your own words so that we could discuss it in anything resembling a conversation. A list of a hundred damn cut and paste quotes doesn't tell me shit about what you think. Write an articulate statement about what you think and why and then we can discuss it. Trying to hang Krugman on his claim that the English economy was going to experience a contraction under austerity is ridiculous and you know it. Austerity is forced contraction. How much is rather immaterial. If Krugman over-estimated the amount of suffering that a specific program would entail, there are many reasons for that. Otherwise, I don't think Ferguson has a damn clue. He isn't looking at what Krugman has written in its totality but grabbing specific quotations as if that is the totality of Krugman's world view. That is highly irregular and classical right wing ignorance. And of course you are willing to go right along with that ignorance and claim that Ferguson "eviscerated" Krugman. Numerous people showed that the austerity program increased unemployment and has harmed the British economy. Right wing Republicans have made the same ignorant mistake in this country. Without the austerity shenanigans of the right wing in this country, it is estimated that we would have another 2.5 million people gainfully employed today and the unemployment rate would be somewhere around 6 percent. But the right wing thinks it is in their interest to drag the recession that they triggered years ago with their insistence on deregulating the banking industry under the "Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999," which helped pave the way for the kinds of wild speculation that lead to the financials services crash or 2007 and the ensuing bailout and the continuing slow jobless recovery. As I have said cutting and pasting a long list of quotes is lazy and none specific. Write something up and let's see what you have to say, otherwise there is nothing to discuss or to refute, because you haven't said anything to refute. I'm not talking to Ferguson, I'm talking to you. Let's see what you have to say, other than your regular idiotic pandering and personal attacks.
 
Dantès said:
I know you posted a whole damn list of quotes and quotes and more quotes but you never made a coherent and articulate statement about the article in your own words so that we could discuss it in anything resembling a conversation. A list of a hundred damn cut and paste quotes doesn't tell me shit about what you think.
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LOL... so again, you prove you have failed to read what I have written on here. Had you read the articles, you would know that the quotes referrenced the articles that Krugman made the comments. But you prefer to simply ramble on and on as if you have any type of expertise on this.

Write an articulate statement about what you think and why and then we can discuss it. Trying to hang Krugman on his claim that the English economy was going to experience a contraction under austerity is ridiculous and you know it.
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That is not what was done. Let me know when you are done creating straw men.

Austerity is forced contraction. How much is rather immaterial. If Krugman over-estimated the amount of suffering that a specific program would entail, there are many reasons for that.
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No, it did not. The whole 'they tried Austerity' is simply a myth the left loves. Austerity was not tried. Spending in the EU was up from pre-crisis 2007 spending levels not down (in almost every EU country).

Otherwise, I don't think Ferguson has a damn clue. He isn't looking at what Krugman has written in its totality but grabbing specific quotations as if that is the totality of Krugman's world view. That is highly irregular and classical right wing ignorance.
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The ignorance being shown is from you. He actually has read Krugmans work. The reverse is not true. Which was one of the points of the articles. Krugman spouts off with bullshit (similar to what you are doing now) without even knowing what Ferguson has actually stated. It is Krugman that deliberately has been warping the words of Ferguson, not the other way around.

And of course you are willing to go right along with that ignorance and claim that Ferguson "eviscerated" Krugman.
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Because that is precisely what occurred, but given you didn't read the three articles, you wouldn't know that.

Numerous people showed that the austerity program increased unemployment and has harmed the British economy. Right wing Republicans have made the same ignorant mistake in this country. Without the austerity shenanigans of the right wing in this country, it is estimated that we would have another 2.5 million people gainfully employed today and the unemployment rate would be somewhere around 6 percent.
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This type of nonsense is why people mock warped Keynesians. We have not tried Austerity here. Not in the least.

But the right wing thinks it is in their interest to drag the recession that they triggered years ago with their insistence on deregulating the banking industry under the "Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (GLB), also known as the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999," which helped pave the way for the kinds of wild speculation that lead to the financials services crash or 2007 and the ensuing bailout and the continuing slow jobless recovery. As I have said cutting and pasting a long list of quotes is lazy and none specific. Write something up and let's see what you have to say, otherwise there is nothing to discuss or to refute, because you haven't said anything to refute. I'm not talking to Ferguson, I'm talking to you. Let's see what you have to say, other than your regular idiotic pandering and personal attacks.
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Pure comedy. The above was done with nearly unanimous support from BOTH parties. Championed by Larry Summers, passing the Senate 90-8, signed by Clinton. All the while the two parties championed 'more home owners than ever before'... making credit looser and looser for longer periods of time.

lmao at the bolded...
 
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