Subject of "All Up In My Snatch" thinks The Hildebeast is swell

NOVA said:
All attacks don't necessarily indicate incompetence no matter who is in office....

Thats why we should demand investigations by independent people when incompetence or complacency is suspected by those that have a duty to prevent such attacks
to the best of their ability.......
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As the ding-a-lings have been repeatedly told, and repeatedly ignore... not all attacks were preceded by requests for additional security, which were denied, and involved repeated calls for assistance when under attack, that went unanswered.
 
maineman said:
they don't DO what they told me they were going to do? Of course they do. I am smart enough to know that, at best, politicians can only move the ball down the field in small increments... the opposition is too entrenched... they try, though, and they rarely say they will try to move it one direction and then, after being elected, try to move it in the opposite direction.
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kool aid, you've drunk it.
 
christiefan915 said:
Are you admitting that Benghazi may not necessarily indicate incompetence bravs?
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Investigation has proven otherwise. and post 141

The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya, could have been prevented, according to a bipartisan report on the incident that was declassified Wednesday.
"The committee found the attacks were preventable, based on extensive intelligence reporting on the terrorist activity in Libya — to include prior threats and attacks against Western targets—and given the known security shortfalls at the U.S. Mission," said a press release issued by the offices of Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., the committee’s chairwoman and vice chairman.

Who wasn't doing their job...????
Who was asleep at the wheel
Who was so incompetent so as to ignore the inadequate security
Who ignored the prior threats and attack to Western targets
Who failed to even attempt a rescue effort...
Who repeatedly lied about the attackers
Who claimed to be responsible and yet avoided even a mild scolding

Who in this admin. ever takes responsibility for anything that goes wrong and pays a price for fucking up ?
 
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What was your point again christiefan915 ?



Gerald Ackerman - Democrat MI May - In May 2000, convicted on 10 felony counts of criminal sexual conduct; sentenced to 18 to 38 years imprisonment, also 1 year for indecent exposure to a minor.

Brock Adams - Democrat WA Sen - Arrested for drugging, assault, and rape of a woman. (While married)

Sam Adams - Democrat OR May - Lied, but proven guilty to an affair with an 18-year old male intern.

Jim Bates - Democrat CA Rep - Forced by ethics committee to make a formal apology to the married female staffers he had made repeated sexual advancements towards.

Gary Becker - Democrat WI May - Arrested for soliciting sex of a minor (14 years old).

Rod Blagojevich - Democrat IL Gov - Among other things, also proven to have had an affair. (while married)

Bill Clinton - Democrat Prsdnt - Cheated on wife with an intern

Gary Condit - Democrat CA Rep - Extramarital affair with Chandra Levy. (Woman was murdered, but not by him)

Marc Dann - Democrat OK Agn - In 2008, confessed to an affair with a state staff member. (while married)

Roosevelt Dobbins - Democrat AK Rep - Convicted of fondling a 16-year old while in office.

John Edwards - Democrat NC Sen - Extramarital affair with staff member, while wife was critically ill with breast cancer.

Steven Effman - Democrat FL Rep - Admitted in 2003 to inappropriate relationships with three divorce clients; (While married)

Silvio Failla - Democrat NJ Asm - Was shot and killed when a prostitute he solcicited tried to rob him with the help of her pimp.

Barney Frank - Democrat MA Rep - Hired a male prostitute, ran a prostitution ring from his own home.

Kerry Gauthier - Democrat MN Rep - In August of 2012, he had sex with a 17 year old boy in a public bathroom. Admitted it and agreed to not run for re-election.

David Giles - Democrat WA Rep - Convicted in June 2000 of child rape. (While Married)

Neil Goldschmidt - Democrat OR May - In 2004, confessed to an affair with a 14 year old girl. (while married)

Gary Hart - Democrat CO Sen - Had an affair in 1988 with then model Donna Rice. (while married)

Wayne Hays - Democrat OH Rep - Sexual Acts with secretary. (While married)

Gordon Hintz - Democrat WI Rep - Arrested Feb. 10, 2011 for violating a City of Appleton ordinance of touching or offering to touch sexual parts.

Allan Howe - Democrat UT Rep - 2 counts of solicitation of a prostitute. (While married)

Daniel Inouye - Democrat HI Rep - Charged with sexual harassment against numerous women on his staff. (While married)

Ted Kennedy - Democrat MA Sen - Admitted to womanizing while married from 1967-1981. Confirmed relations with Mary Jo Kapechne.

Kwame Kilpatrick - Democrat MI May - Solicitation of multiple prostitutes, obstruction of justice, 2 felonies, held multiple sex parties at tx payer expense.

Vito J. Lopez - Democrat NJ Asm - Stripped of his committee chairmanship and censured after he sexually harassed two women who worked in his district office.

Robert L. Leggit - Democrat CA Rep - Fathered two illegitimate children by a Congressional secretary, then had an affair with another woman who was an aide to Speaker Carl Albert.

Tim Mahoney - Democrat IL Rep - Cheated on wife with a staff member, and then paid her $121,000 to keep quiet.

Eric Massa - Democrat NY Rep - Resigned from the house over allegations from the Ethics panel. Admitted to sexual language / misconduct to a staffer.

Jim McGreevey - Democrat NJ Gov - Extramarital homosexual affair with his homeland security advisor.

Wilbur Mills - Democrat AK Rep - Solicitation and sexual misconduct with a prostitute. (While married)

Paul Morrison - Democrat AK Agn - Attorney General, confessed to an affair with addministrative staffer. (while married)

Gavin Newsom - Democrat CA May - San Fran Mayor, In 2007, confessed to an affair with his secretary, Ruby Rippey. (while married)

David Patterson - Democrat NY Gov - Numerous extramarital affairs, confessed after getting elected and sworn in.

Paul Patton - Democrat KY Gov - Confessed to an affair in 2002. (while married)

Mel Reynolds - Democrat IL Rep - 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16 year old.

Fred Richmond - Democrat NY Rep - Arrested in 78 for soliciting sex with a 16 year old (also tax evasion)

Charles Robb - Democrat VA Rep - Cheated on wife (Lyndon Johnson's daughter) with Tai Collins (Miss Virginia).

Gus Savage - Democrat IL Rep - Fondled an under age peace corp volunteer while on a business trip.

Harold Scott - Democrat MI Rep - Convicted on rape charges and sentenced to prison in 1988 (While married)

Derrick Sheperd - Democrat LA Sen - Arrested for solicitation of a stripper w/ tax payer money.

Eliot Spitzer - Democrat NY Gov - Solicitation and sexual misconduct with a prostitute. (While married)

Gerald Springer - Democrat OH May - Admitted to paying a prostitute with a personal check, which was found in a police raid on a massage parlor. (While Married)

Gerry Studds - Democrat MA Rep - Censured for sexual relations with an underage male page.

Antonio Villaraigosa - Democrat CA May - LA Mayor, confessed to an affair in 2007 with a news reporter. (while married)

Sol Wachtler - Democrat NY Jud - In 1993, he was sentenced to 15 months in prison for extortion in connection with his harassment of an ex-lover.

Anthony Weiner - Democrat NY Rep - In 2011, he confessed to tweeting / e-mailing innapropriate photos to a college girl. (while married)

Bob Wise - Democrat WV Gov - In 2003, had an affair with a state government staffer.

David Wu - Democrat Or Rep - In 2011, had an affair with a minor, and friend of a campaign contributor (while married). He resigned from Congress.

John Young - Democrat TX Rep - Increased salaried staffer after sexual affair. (While married)


* Note: This list only includes Presidents, Senators, Congressman, Mayors, Governors, Attorney Generals, and Judges that have either confessed or been charged with a crime.
http://www.conservative21.net/Media/The_List.txt
 
NOVA said:
Investigation has proven otherwise. and post 141

The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya, could have been prevented, according to a bipartisan report on the incident that was declassified Wednesday.
"The committee found the attacks were preventable, based on extensive intelligence reporting on the terrorist activity in Libya — to include prior threats and attacks against Western targets—and given the known security shortfalls at the U.S. Mission," said a press release issued by the offices of Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., the committee’s chairwoman and vice chairman.

Who wasn't doing their job...????
Who was asleep at the wheel
Who was so incompetent so as to ignore the inadequate security
Who ignored the prior threats and attack to Western targets
Who failed to even attempt a rescue effort...
Who repeatedly lied about the attackers
Who claimed to be responsible and yet avoided even a mild scolding

Who in this admin. ever takes responsibility for anything that goes wrong and pays a price for fucking up ?
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I guess you didn't actually read the report, did you? For the DOS the buck ultimately stopped with Hillary but there was plenty of blame to go around and the report acknowledges this. Furthermore, what about the failure in military leadership? Do Gen. Dempsey and the rest get a pass from you hacks because you're like a pack of dogs going at Hillary? At least have the honesty to admit that your main objective is to put obstacles in Hillary's path should she decide to run for prez. Ignoring all the other factors makes you cons look pretty stupid.

Failure in Leadership, State Department

"...we are particularly disappointed that Charlene Lamb, who was the Deputy Assistant Secretary for International
Programs, has refused to explain to the Committee why certain decisions were made concerning enhanced security
at the Temporary Mission Facility and who ultimately was responsible for those decisions...

...We know from the testimony of Eric Nordstrom, who served as the Regional Security Officer in Libya until shortly before the attacks,
that Ms. Lamb and other senior State Department officials were unreceptive to repeated requests from the Libyan mission regarding
security personnel in both Tripoli and Benghazi. According to Mr. Nordstrom, the previous U.S. Ambassador to Libya, GeneCretz,
and his Deputy Chief of Mission (DCM), Joan Polaschik, traveled to Washington in mid-February 2012 to specifically ask for additional
security personnel. In addition to meeting with Ms. Lamb, they met separately with Mr. Kennedy and other senior officials. Yet, when
the Libyan mission transmitted its official request for additional security personnel on March 28, 2012, the push back from Ms. Lamb's
office was swift and significant...

...According to Mr. Nordstrom, Ms. Lamb was also vocal about her unwillingness to provide additional security personnel, including
support of an extension of the Department of Defense (DoD) Site Security Team. Nordstrom told the Committee that Ms. Lamb
claimed it would be embarrassing and give Libya more security agents than in Yemen and Pakistan...

...We heard of similar difficulties with Ms. Lamb from Gregory Hicks, the former DCM who arrived in Tripoli just over one month before
the attacks. In a May 20 12 briefing with Ms. Lamb as he prepared for his new assignment, he pushed back on the proposed security
complement, but "did not get a favorable response" from Ms.Lamb...

...While Ms. Lamb should be held accountable for her actions in failing to provide better security in .Benghazi, we believe that Mr. Kennedy,
as the Under Secretary for Management, bears a specific responsibility for these lapses. Mr. Kennedy never responded to the Libyan
mission's request for additional security personnel, he did specifically decline an offer from Lieutenant General Robert Neller, U.S. Matine Corps,
Director of Operations, J3, the Joint Staff, to sustain or provide additional DoD security personnel in Libya by extending the deployment
of the DoD Site Security Team in Tripoli, transitioning to a Marine Security Detachment, or deploying a U.S. Marine Corps Fleet Antiterrorism
Security Team...

Failures in Leadership - General Dempsey

The failures in leadership relating to Benghazi were not limited to the State Department. The tenure of the Chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, has been marked by what we view as significant deficiencies in command. From
Syria to Benghazi, there has been either a profound inability or clear unwillingness to identify and prevent problems before they arise.
Given the known operating environment in Benghazi, much less North Africa, a strong military leader would have ensured there was
a viable plan in place to rescue Americans should the need arise. We understand the Department of Defense cannot plan for
a rescue operation of every Embassy or diplomatic facility across the globe, but Benghazi was different given its hostile environment
and lack of host nation security and support. Yet, there was no such plan. General Dempsey's attempts to excuse inaction by
claiming that forces were not deployed because they would not have gotten there in time does not pass the common sense test. No one
knew when the attacks against our facilities in Benghazi would end, or how aggressive the attacks would be. That is the whole point
of a pre-established emergency rescue plan-so that the length of the attack alone does not dictate the rescue or survival of Americans.
Understanding that the State Department bears ultimate responsibility for the safety of Americans serving in diplomatic facilities
abroad, General Dempsey should have ensured that plan was in place, but he failed to do so.

A strong military leader would also have ensured that his commanders in the field were fully aware of all United States personnel,
including CIA personnel, who were located within their areas of responsibility. Yet, the Committee has confirmed that
General Carter Ham, as the Commander of U.S. Africa Command, was not even aware there was a CIA annex in Benghazi
at the time of the attacks. We are puzzled as to how the military leadership expected to effectively respond and rescue Americans
in the event of an emergency when it did not even know of the existence of one of the U.S. facilities...

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf
 
NOVA said:
Investigation has proven otherwise. and post 141

The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya, could have been prevented, according to a bipartisan report on the incident that was declassified Wednesday.
"The committee found the attacks were preventable, based on extensive intelligence reporting on the terrorist activity in Libya — to include prior threats and attacks against Western targets—and given the known security shortfalls at the U.S. Mission," said a press release issued by the offices of Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., the committee’s chairwoman and vice chairman.

Who wasn't doing their job...????
Who was asleep at the wheel
Who was so incompetent so as to ignore the inadequate security
Who ignored the prior threats and attack to Western targets
Who failed to even attempt a rescue effort...
Who repeatedly lied about the attackers
Who claimed to be responsible and yet avoided even a mild scolding

Who in this admin. ever takes responsibility for anything that goes wrong and pays a price for fucking up ?
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People who don't know about foreign policy crack me up.

EVERYONE in the world knows more about Bengazi than America. Half of America looks at it like a mistake, the other half a cover up. The rest of the world can explain it easily but we don't pay attention to them, they are "less" than Americans lol.

WEIRD why they would cover up an under-cover operation....http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50586

How did Libya and Syria rebels get brand new weapons (mostly American made)? Bias Media has an issue with uncovering Under-Cover operations....They don't call them "Under Cover Operations" they call them "Scandals".
 
Unicron said:
She also supports fascism.
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Explain.

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noun 1. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
 
Big Money said:
Did anyone named "Bravo" say they believe that a long list of Republicans who dallied could not also be produced, Commander?
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someone who used to be called that posted a list of dallying democrats. why post such a list?

and, now that I think of it, why in the world am I asking YOU this question... you post all sorts of meaningless shit every day.
 
Big Money said:
She's certainly old enough. I don't recall questioning whether or not she meets the requirements to run.


I asked for a list of her accomplishments in office, didn't I?
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and again.... for someone as consumed with hatred for Hillary as you are - scores of threads about "The Hildebeast" - most rational folks know that you really could give a rat's ass about her qualifications or her accomplishments.

Here's the deal... if she runs, I'll be sure to vote FOR her, which will make you leave your mom's basement and go vote against her to cancel my vote.... if you are, in fact, old enough to vote.
 
NOVA said:
Investigation has proven otherwise. and post 141

The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility and CIA annex in Benghazi, Libya, could have been prevented, according to a bipartisan report on the incident that was declassified Wednesday.
"The committee found the attacks were preventable, based on extensive intelligence reporting on the terrorist activity in Libya — to include prior threats and attacks against Western targets—and given the known security shortfalls at the U.S. Mission," said a press release issued by the offices of Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., the committee’s chairwoman and vice chairman.

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Well, bravs? Did you actually read the entire report yet? It's clear that despite your cherry-picking there was plenty of blame to go around, up to and including the ambassador himself. I wonder if you'll have the honesty to admit this or if you'll just continue bleating "Hillary Hillary Hillary."

"...According to the report of the ARB, "there appeared to be very real confusion over who, ultimately, was responsible and empowered to make decisions based on both policy and security concerns" at the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, and the Mission facility in Benghazi. The Independent Panel on Best Practices, which the ARB recommended State establish
to identify best practices from other agencies and countries, found that a "potential root cause for the confusion, lack of clear lines of authority, and communication at the headquarters level" was that "some senior Foreign Service officers and DS agents who met with the Panel identified the Under Secretary for Management (M) as the senior security official in the Department responsible for final decision making regarding critical security requirements," even though this role was "not identified by Congress in the Diplomatic Security Act of 1986..."

...Additionally, the uncertain future of the Mission facility, due to its one-year expiration in December 2012, contributed to a lack of continuity for security staff and constrained decision-makers in Washington regarding the allocation of security enhancements to that facility...

...DoD confirmed to the Committee that Ambassador Stevens declined two specific offers from General Carter Ham, then the head of AFRICOM, to sustain the SST in the weeks before the terrorist attacks. After reading the August 16, 2012, EAC cable, General Ham called Ambassador Stevens and asked if the Embassy needed the SST from the U.S. military, but Stevens told Ham it did not.Shortly thereafter, Stevens traveled to Germany for a previously scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. Ham again offered to sustain the SST at the meeting, and Stevens again declined.

...Although it is impossible to draw definitive conclusions, there were fragmentary reports from the IC indicating that more in-depth intelligence exploitation of social media in the Benghazi area, including web postings by Libyan nationals employed at the Temporary Mission Facility, could have flagged potential security threats to the Mission facility or important information about the employees prior to the September 11, 2012, attacks...

...A dearth of clear and definitive HUMINT or eyewitness reporting led IC analysts to rely on open press reports and limited SIGINT reporting that incorrectly attributed the origins of the Benghazi attacks to "protests," over first-hand accounts from U.S. officials on the ground. CIA's January 4, 2013, Analytic Line Review found that "[a ]pproximately a dozen reports that included press accounts, public statements by AAS members, HUMINT reporting, DOD reporting, and signals intelligence all stated or strongly suggested that a protest occurred outside of the Mission facility just prior to the attacks..."

...The primary Source of security for the Temporary Mission Facility, local Libyan militia members, failed to provide any significant defense of the compound from the attack...

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf
 
maineman said:
and again.... for someone as consumed with hatred for Hillary as you are - scores of threads about "The Hildebeast" - most rational folks know that you really could give a rat's ass about her qualifications or her accomplishments. Here's the deal... if she runs, I'll be sure to vote FOR her, which will make you leave your mom's basement and go vote against her to cancel my vote.... if you are, in fact, old enough to vote.
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Did I say I hate The Hildebeast, Commander?


The fact that you have declared you're going to vote for someone with such apparently paltry accomplishments in office is amusing, to say the least.
 
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