Dead kids and our 1st and 2nd amendment rights...

I think any suggestion that this country could successfully rise up and rebel against govt. forces is comical. It didn't work for Koresh at Waco and it didn't work for Lee in the Civil War.

you're projecting your own passivity and cowardice upon everyone. as it stands right now, we're looking at way more oppressive countries who are finding it extremely difficult to quell rebellion.
 
You are assuming the military would come down on the sides of the idiots in DC rather than on the side of the people.

I'm saying that the number of people who would rise up against the govt. is miniscule but that doesn't mean STY and Billy can't enjoy their pipe dream.
 
...and the govt. would use the same weaponry on American rebels as it uses in Iraq, Pakistan, etc. And the govt. has strength in numbers, I think you're overestimating how many people here would rise up against it. Most are too content with the American lifestyle to consider it.

Yeah, again, what's your point? It didn't deter a bunch of illiterate goat farmers in the middle of a damned desert with no military training and a complete inability to target U.S. supply lines. They've stood and fought us for a decade+ and we still haven't managed to beat them.
 
I'm saying that the number of people who would rise up against the govt. is miniscule but that doesn't mean STY and Billy can't enjoy their pipe dream.

again, your naivete. I do understand, though, that the brainwashing you receive from the media will color your viewpoint so as to paint any violence as citizens being psycho, but not everyone is duped like you. one need only look at examples like the LA riot and the reason that the FBI assaulted WACO as early as they did. and your notion of the government having the numbers is absurd.
 
Yeah, again, what's your point? It didn't deter a bunch of illiterate goat farmers in the middle of a damned desert with no military training and a complete inability to target U.S. supply lines. They've stood and fought us for a decade+ and we still haven't managed to beat them.

I'm saying we could have done to Iraq, Pakistan etc. what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and that would have taken care of it. It wasn't just about goat farmers in the desert, it was about the US for once not unleashing all the weapons in the arsenal against a couple of poor backward countries.
 
again, your naivete. I do understand, though, that the brainwashing you receive from the media will color your viewpoint so as to paint any violence as citizens being psycho, but not everyone is duped like you. one need only look at examples like the LA riot and the reason that the FBI assaulted WACO as early as they did. and your notion of the government having the numbers is absurd.

Can't say I'm brainwashed by the media because the media I pay attention to never even mentions uprising. How many people do you think would rise up against the US? What would be the reasons given to encourage this uprising? How many would it take to destroy the current govt. and supplant it with whatever you have in mind?

Here's an idea, why don't you do a JPP poll and get some numbers from this microcosm?
 
I'm saying we could have done to Iraq, Pakistan etc. what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and that would have taken care of it. It wasn't just about goat farmers in the desert, it was about the US for once not unleashing all the weapons in the arsenal against a couple of poor backward countries.
Didn't help us win in Vietnam when we did just that. Didn't make Germany surrender any faster during WW2. But go on, please tell me more about how bombing our own industrial base will win a civil war.
 
Can't say I'm brainwashed by the media because the media I pay attention to never even mentions uprising. How many people do you think would rise up against the US? What would be the reasons given to encourage this uprising? How many would it take to destroy the current govt. and supplant it with whatever you have in mind?

Here's an idea, why don't you do a JPP poll and get some numbers from this microcosm?

About 100,000, give or take.
 
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