Dead kids and our 1st and 2nd amendment rights...

ZappasGuitar said:
They seem to think that since we decry war that if rebellion ever occurred we'd go meekly into their little pens and that just isn't the case.

I think those in for the biggest surprise would be the gun nut insurrectionists who imagine how easy their overthrow of those they consider soft will be.

They might also be in for a BIG surprise.
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And even bigger surprise might be when a large portion of the military joins their cause....
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Do you really think that every one of us who rails against war wouldn't, if the situation demanded it, be ready to kill each and every one of you insurrectionist bastards?

Because I gotta tell you, I have no problem picking up a gun and taking out each and every one of you "revolution is coming" nutbars and there's MILLIONS more just like me.
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now THAT is funny, especially considering that you consider the gun nuts cowards and claim that most americans couldn't handle standing up to the military, but i guess you statist fuckers are just bad ass mothers, right?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that's something i've never been able to grasp about liberal illogic. do they think that all of us former military people were de-programmed to forget all of our training when we got out?
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Liberals also seem to imagine that the majority of the Military would be with the Government.
 
Sardonic said:
Do you think they would all join forces with you to overthrown the govenment they swore to protect and serve? I know my family members would fight against you?
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And you fail to understand that by the time the US would be at that point, the Government in power would not be the Government that they swore to protect.
 
Nemo said:
No. Rights exist only by law. There are no rights without law; no rights contrary to law; no rights superior to law. That's the way it is; the way it must be; and no other way. Get used to it.
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Move to your fantasy country since you live in a full time fantasy land anyway.

Ever read this sentence? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
 
Nemo said:
The Second Amendment was never intended to protect the people from the government. That’s simple nonsense. The rights secured by the Second Amendment, whether individual or collective, are subject to law; and there is no law that allows the people to take up arms against the government. To the contrary, even to advocate such action constitutes a crime under 18 U.S.C. § 2385. Our individual rights and liberty are provided and protected by law, not by guns; and the method for effecting change is not by armed insurrection, but by vote of our elected representatives in government, and by lawful means through the courts, not lawlessness. That’s the way of our constitutional republic; that’s the American way.
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Guess you missed this part too; Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
 
Nemo said:
That is incorrect. The Constitutional Convention was convened after the American Revolution, and in time of peace. Thomas Jefferson, who authored the Declaration of Independence, was serving as our ambassador to France (Chasing skirts while he was at it!). Under the Constitution, it is "We the People" that elect our government; and it is we that are responsible for the choices we make at the ballot box. It will not do to blame the government of our own choice.
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That would all be good and fine if the government "we" chose did our will.
 
christiefan915 said:
I'm saying we could have done to Iraq, Pakistan etc. what we did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki and that would have taken care of it. It wasn't just about goat farmers in the desert, it was about the US for once not unleashing all the weapons in the arsenal against a couple of poor backward countries.
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We could have but we will never do that again will we Christie? And certainly not on our own land, so your comment is irrelevant and distracting.
 
christiefan915 said:
Bravs, we're talking about Americans rising up against the American government.
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And I'm pointing out what a small determine group of radicals can do to a well equipped and professional force....

you've witnessed it and seen it happen to our troops and still don't believe it ?

You've even seen what a small angry mob can do rioting in the streets of our cities with no weapons and no real intent to kill.......it ain't pretty.
 
Rune said:
Guess you missed this part too; Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
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Rune the pRune ?....Is that really you ?.....you posted this ?....
 
Rune said:
That would all be good and fine if the government "we" chose did our will.
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"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." (emphasis added)---Obama

Ever wonder what the hell this was all about...a civilian national force to achieve the national security objectives that we've he's set.
why a civilian force, just as powerful, just as strong and just as well-funded as the military ?

I'm not saying it, Obama said it.

Now we have the NSA, TSA, DHS, rumored to be buying ammo totaling tens of millions of dollars and billions of rounds...is it all bullshit ?

http://www.ibtimes.com/homeland-sec...billion-rounds-ammo-pepper-ball-gun-riot-gear
 
NOVA said:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." (emphasis added)---Obama

Ever wonder what the hell this was all about...a civilian national force to achieve the national security objectives that we've he's set.
why a civilian force, just as powerful, just as strong and just as well-funded as the military ?

I'm not saying it, Obama said it.

Now we have the NSA, TSA, DHS, rumored to be buying ammo totaling tens of millions of dollars and billions of rounds...is it all bullshit ?

http://www.ibtimes.com/homeland-sec...billion-rounds-ammo-pepper-ball-gun-riot-gear
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Yeah Bravs, I hate to agree with you about pretty much anything but Obama is frightening me even more than his predecessor did.
 
NOVA said:
Careful you don't shoot your eye out.....
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Lol, okay Mr. Parker.

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SmarterthanYou said:
read the declaration of independence.
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I read this yesterday and it reminded me of you and Billy. Guess oathers and threepers never consider rising up against a repub administration.

"U.S. gun makers led by Sturm Ruger & Co. and Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. (SWHC:US) churned out a record number of firearms in 2012, government data show, continuing a trend of robust production during Democratic presidencies.

More than 8.57 million guns were produced in 2012, up 31 percent from 6.54 million in 2011, according to data released this week by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which has been tracking the statistics since 1986.

Almost as many guns -- 26.1 million -- were produced during Democrat Barack Obama’s first term as president as during the entire eight-year presidency of his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush, the ATF data show."

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...oduction-during-obama-term-as-buyers-stock-up
 
NOVA said:
And I'm pointing out what a small determine group of radicals can do to a well equipped and professional force....

you've witnessed it and seen it happen to our troops and still don't believe it ?

You've even seen what a small angry mob can do rioting in the streets of our cities with no weapons and no real intent to kill.......it ain't pretty.
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When I read comments like yours, STY's and Billy's I think of a bunch of guys playing World of Warcraft or something and believing that gaming strategies would work in the real world.
 
christiefan915 said:
I read this yesterday and it reminded me of you and Billy. Guess oathers and threepers never consider rising up against a repub administration.

"U.S. gun makers led by Sturm Ruger & Co. and Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. (SWHC:US) churned out a record number of firearms in 2012, government data show, continuing a trend of robust production during Democratic presidencies.

More than 8.57 million guns were produced in 2012, up 31 percent from 6.54 million in 2011, according to data released this week by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which has been tracking the statistics since 1986.

Almost as many guns -- 26.1 million -- were produced during Democrat Barack Obama’s first term as president as during the entire eight-year presidency of his Republican predecessor, George W. Bush, the ATF data show."

http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...oduction-during-obama-term-as-buyers-stock-up
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Fact; Other than the 1%, republicans are idiots.
Fact; The idiotic dolts who elect republicans believe their lies.
Fact; The GOP claims to be against gun control. (in reality they are it's staunchest supporters, since it is their sponsors who will be the first to be slaughtered in a general revolt.
The GOP just isn't in a position (yet) to let it's true agenda become known.
 
Rune said:
We could have but we will never do that again will we Christie? And certainly not on our own land, so your comment is irrelevant and distracting.
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I don't know if we'll ever do it again because I'm not an astrologer. But the fact remains that we still have them.
 
christiefan915 said:
I read this yesterday and it reminded me of you and Billy. Guess oathers and threepers never consider rising up against a repub administration.
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you would guess wrong. what you fail to consider though is that democrats tend to go after guns more than repubs, but don't think for a second that we wouldn't fight against repubs coming after our guns as well.
 
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