George Will leaving Republican Party

So, now we've got one Trumptard responding to every racist thing that Trump says with "but how is that racist?" And another one responding to these specific cases with "I need specifics."

Douchebag Donald has developed the most moronic support base in history.
 
cawacko said:
I think you know many of the comments we are discussing. Maybe it's because of where I live but I read and hear a lot of what the black community says and some in the Hispanic community and the dislike and feeling of racial animosity towards Trump is strong.

To me it's too facile an answer to say it's the media's fault. Trump is a marketing genius. He's knows what he is doing. When he announced his candidacy he didn't say I'm against illegal immigration because it's hurting working class people of all backgrounds. He specifically said Mexico is sending their killers and other bad people here because he knew that would make headlines and he knew that would connect with a certain segment of the population and it did.

When he says a judge can't be fair to his case because this guy born in Indiana has Mexican parents how does that jibe at all with his claim Hispanics love him? It completely turns away the audience he should be trying to reach.

When he says "that's my African-American" I saw that comment posted almost a dozen times on Facebook by black friends and read the following discussions. They all know what he meant by it. It's the exact opposite of trying to win people over to your side.

I'd point again to his unfavorable ratings among minorities. They didn't get that way out of the blue.
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Anytime anything like that is said the media jumps all over it and says it's racist. But ax yourself this, if Mrs. Clinton had said the same thing, would they say the same thing?
 
Establishment said:
So, now we've got one Trumptard responding to every racist thing that Trump says with "but how is that racist?" And another one responding to these specific cases with "I need specifics."

Douchebag Donald has developed the most moronic support base in history.
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So you're a Clinton supporter?
 
Right said:
Anytime anything like that is said the media jumps all over it and says it's racist. But ax yourself this, if Mrs. Clinton had said the same thing, would they say the same thing?
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It's not the media that's doing this. Trump's whole campaign has been based around getting free media so he can't complain when people then hear and react to what he says.

And if his goal is to win over minorities he's doing the opposite.
 
cawacko said:
It's not the media that's doing this. Trump's whole campaign has been based around getting free media so he can't complain when people then hear and react to what he says.

And if his goal is to win over minorities he's doing the opposite.
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Why do you have such trouble answering a direct question? If Mrs. Clinton had said the same thing, would they say the same thing?
 
Right said:
Why do you have such trouble answering a direct question? If Mrs. Clinton had said the same thing, would they say the same thing?
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She didn't say the same thing but my guess is based on how #BLM has treated her Superpredator comments she would receive sh*t for it as well. But ultimately that's irrelevant to the goal of getting more minorities to vote Republican.
 
Establishment said:
So, now we've got one Trumptard responding to every racist thing that Trump says with "but how is that racist?" And another one responding to these specific cases with "I need specifics."

Douchebag Donald has developed the most moronic support base in history.
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We have courage. You have a cowardly yellow streak running down your back as wide as an interstate. The easiest thing in the world to do is be a pop culture follower and a sellout who's only ambition in life is to be popular.

You belong in the social circle you exist in. You're nothing without your mob.
 
cawacko said:
She didn't say the same thing but my guess is based on how #BLM has treated her Superpredator comments she would receive sh*t for it as well. But ultimately that's irrelevant to the goal of getting more minorities to vote Republican.
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It's not irrelevant because it's a double standard. So the Democrats (and their lap dog media) treat one class of people (Republicans) differently than they do another class (Democrats). I'd point out that this behavior- dividing people into classes and treating the differently- is exactly what Democrats have done since segregation.
 
Right said:
It's not irrelevant because it's a double standard. So the Democrats (and their lap dog media) treat one class of people (Republicans) differently than they do another class (Democrats). I'd point out that this behavior- dividing people into classes and treating the differently- is exactly what Democrats have done since segregation.
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Yes, the media is liberal. We've known that forever. But that doesn't change that we are continuing to lose elections and we have a major demographic problem facing us in the future that we need to address. And right now we are running in reverse.
 
cawacko said:
Yes, the media is liberal. We've known that forever. But that doesn't change that we are continuing to lose elections and we have a major demographic problem facing us in the future that we need to address. And right now we are running in reverse.
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The reason why Trump won the primary is that he refuses to play the media's gotcha game of political correctness.
 
Right said:
The reason why Trump won the primary is that he refuses to play the media's gotcha game of political correctness.
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I go back to the point of the discussion which is that we've lost five of the last six general election votes and are currently trailing in this one. Let's say Trump loses. Where does the party go from here?
 
cawacko said:
I go back to the point of the discussion which is that we've lost five of the last six general election votes and are currently trailing in this one. Let's say Trump loses. Where does the party go from here?
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Good question. That's why the Founders gave us three branches of government, and left most power to the states. In '10 and '14 the GOP decimated the Democrats in the federal legislature and may state houses, and these victories extended down to the county and municipal levels. In my state, we won both houses and the governorship for the first time since reconstruction, and Democrats are practically extinct in Raleigh. As a result, our debt is down, the economy is good, and taxes have been reduced.

The states have the power to amend the constitution and take back the recent power grabs of the presidency and judicial branches.

Republicans controlling the federal level need to have some balls and control what they can, like budgets, taxes, disapproval of liberal judicial selections, impeachment and conviction of judges who break their oath.
 
cawacko said:
I go back to the point of the discussion which is that we've lost five of the last six general election votes and are currently trailing in this one. Let's say Trump loses. Where does the party go from here?
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This is going to be a very close election. Trump may indeed lose but your assumption that he can't win if he doesn't start catering to minority special interests is completely inaccurate. He'll lose by a landslide if he sells out the middle class because the middle class .. whom you consider too white and too racist is his bread and butter.

It comes down to a question of whether you want change or the status quo. I think Trump has an excellent chance of winning on that choice alone. He has already tripled the size of the republican voter base. He is energizing the non voting, voter eligible segment of the population. And he's doing all this running against the GOP establishment.
 
philly rabbit said:
This is going to be a very close election. Trump may indeed lose but your assumption that he can't win if he doesn't start catering to minority special interests is completely inaccurate. He'll lose by a landslide if he sells out the middle class because the middle class .. whom you consider too white and too racist is his bread and butter.

It comes down to a question of whether you want change or the status quo. I think Trump has an excellent chance of winning on that choice alone. He has already tripled the size of the republican voter base. He is energizing the non voting, voter eligible segment of the population. And he's doing all this running against the GOP establishment.
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I've said many times that The GOP sucks but the Democrats suck worse. No doubt many Democrats also feel that way about their party, and that bodes well for Trump.
 
cawacko said:
Yes, the media is liberal. We've known that forever. But that doesn't change that we are continuing to lose elections and we have a major demographic problem facing us in the future that we need to address. And right now we are running in reverse.
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What would you suggest the party do to address it??
 
cawacko said:
Yes, the media is liberal. We've known that forever. But that doesn't change that we are continuing to lose elections and we have a major demographic problem facing us in the future that we need to address. And right now we are running in reverse.
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so why don't you stop and turn around like the rest of us have.....
 
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