I'm just curious, how do they know your political and religious affiliations?
The Christ Haters Are At It Again Folks.
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I'm just curious, how do they know your political and religious affiliations?
Darth Omar
Russian asset
I don't know that Jefferson ever said that and if he did it's manifestly untrue. Paul was a very learned man for his day, as was Luke and between them they wrote a large portion of the NT.
Jefferson was a bit of an eccentric and had some off the wall thoughts on the general subject.
Actually, the very second you can provide proof of the bible being the word of god instead of a group of allegorical stories collected by humans which were then shuffled and reshuffled several times by humans where humans decided what books did and didn't matter based on what best fit the designs and agendas of those making those decisions, you might have even the tiniest germ of a point. But, since you can't, you don't have a point at all.
Faith is defined as, "belief without evidence." Which is what you do. You believe without evidence. That's fine for you. But for you to come in here and spout scripture verse and claim it to be the true word of god is asking far too much for those of us who can think and reason.
You don't know what my relationship with god is, or if I have one. You don't know if I think a relationship between science and religion is an apotheosis or antithesis. All you know for certain is that I'm not a BLIND follower like you.
And the BEST part of that is the fact that we worship the same god. I just worship god while you worship a bronze-age hippie who claimed to be the Messiah but by all prophecies ever written wasn't anything LIKE the Messiah, thus condemning to hell Christians who worship a false prophet - by everything told in their religious dogma (see you in hell, buddy).
And then, of course, there's THIS:
First, nobody had their ass handed to them via the "actual doctrine found in scripture." Because? Well, because not everybody sees what you see, believes what you believe, or is bound by the kind of extreme zeal you have for allegorical stories.
Second, what domer said was not a list. It was an example of circular logic that you don't recognize even when you engage in EXACTLY what he said. And I mean EXACTLY.
We've gone around EXACTLY like this before, Ralph. I tell you something about the bible, you tell me it's the word of god, I say, "Prove it," and you say, "It's the word of GOD!", likely while sweating, red-faced with that little white spittle forming at the corner of your mouth that religious extremists get when screaming at someone who thinks and reasons.
What domer showed is the child-like attempt at argument that you, yourself, have used on this forum and in fact use in the part of your proselytization that I quoted above. "It's the word of god because it's the word of god. So there. Infinity."
And the fact that you went after domer for pointing out your own immature thought pattern on that? I actually laughed so hard my wife came to find out what was so funny.
Finally, the story of Adam & Eve, Eden, the expulsion and everything else is allegory. It's not intended to be taken literally, it didn't actually happen. Even Cardinals, priests, reverands, pastors and other "men of the cloth" recognize that.
Not you, though. You take it as fact without evidence because, and I know you'll love this, "it's the word of god".
To which I ask you, how can you be sure it's the word of god?
philly rabbit
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They're not atheists, they're anti theists. Otherwise, they wouldn't be putting on this hateful display holiday season after holiday season.
They cannot tolerate the fact that no matter how you chose to celebrate the holidays, Christmas has a Christian religious root to it and it is sickening to the anti theists. They are 0 tolerant ass holes and deserve to be ridiculed.
Your ignorance truly knows no bounds.
Christmas does not, in fact, have Christian roots. It has Pagan roots ("pagan" being a term early Christians used for a variety of people with a variety of faiths).
As just about everyone knows, during the period of the early church, Christians co-opted the various winter festivals, rites, ceremonies, and traditions in an attempt to assimilate non-Christians into their own religion in order to grow their own numbers.
So they stole various traditions, repackaged them and spit them out as "Christmas." Ignorant, uneducated people don't know this because they hide that kind of information in books, which ignorant, uneducated people never bother to read. I'm sure not reading sounds VERY familiar to you.
Oh, and that Christmas tree you've no doubt smiled at every year thinking it has something to do with Jesus? That didn't turn up until the 17th century, but even that has Pagan roots because it comes from the Pagan tradition of decorating for winter rites with greenery.
There was a lot that went on before Christianity and Christianity stole, assimilated and co-opted a lot of it. Christianity is a cobbled-together Mutt religion, to put it in basest terms. It's just that you're ignorant - and willfully so - so you don't know about any of it.
Which is what makes you a zero-tolerant asshole who deserves to be ridiculed.
And which is also one of the many, MANY things that makes it so easy for me to ridicule you.
Merry Christmas.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
You mean, aside from the whole, miraculous birth of the Christ, it is entirely pagan without any actual Christian significance.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
"that incarnate deity sacrificing his life for his creation" thing sort of fucks with the pagan pattern, doesn't it.....
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
this will probably come as a surprise to the typical brainless atheist, but we don't actually believe that Christmas trees have anything to do with Jesus.....the Christmas we celebrate doesn't have anything to do with paganism......that would be the Christmas you atheists have tried to paste over the real thing to hide what its about.......
"That incarnate deity sacrificing his life for creation" fucks with the rational mind. The rest of you childlike morons buy it without question.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
AMerica is a CHRISTIAN REPUBLIC. Our founders WANTED IT THAT WAY. DEATH TO ISLAM! DEATH TO SATANISTS!
I've been over this many times on this forum, citing fact, with quotes, pointing to the Constitution, and proving beyond any doubt that the founders of this country did NOT intend it to be a "Christian" nation, and that they went out of their way to make sure it wasn't.
And I do it because obviously stupid, ignorant, moronic imbeciles like cucked, here, have no goddamned idea what this country was intended and founded to be.
Because people like cucked shout from the highest mountain how they want to "make America great again" without ever actually knowing anything other than what they've been told by other stupid, ignorant, moronic imbeciles - and NONE of them at ANY point have EVER bothered to educate themselves before they open their stupid, ignorant, moronic, imbecilic mouths.
I'm not sugar-coating this, because I'm really tired of the argument idiots try to make. Every single person who says that the US is, should be, must be, etc. a "christian nation" is spewing the most anti-American, unpatriotic, Constitution-hating bullshit that any citizen could ever utter.
Not a single one of our founding fathers advocated for ANY religion, be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Shintoist, Hindu, etc. There's a REASON that Jesus is NEVER mentioned in the Constitution.
They went out of their way to avoid references to god, deity or any higher power anywhere in the documents upon which this country is founded. They ALSO went out of their way to avoid - whatever their PERSONAL beliefs - any ties with religion in anything they wrote about government. In fact, they often in their writings made efforts to support a complete separation of religion from government (Jeffer's famous "wall of separation" in his letter to the Baptists being a prime example).
To those un-American people who wish to rid our country of Muslims, I would also point toward Jefferson, who wrote that the statute he brought to Virginia for religious freedom was, "...meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammeden [Muslims], the Hindoo and Infidel of every demnomination."
He was VERY clear that he he wanted at all costs to avoid any single religion being dominant in society.
If you want proof, you take your un-American idiocy to four documents and read them, cucked, because you don't know jack shit about our country.
Go read the two most important: The Constitution of the United States of America and the Declaration of Independence.
Then go read the Articles of Confederation and the Federalist Papers.
But let me help you out, here.
Christians like to quote the Declaration of Independence especially, because of the following phrases: "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," "Supreme Judge of the world," "their Creator" and "divine Providence."
But the Christians are wrong, here. What the authors of the Declaration are referring to here are not God, they are referring to the idea of inherent human dignity. They never ONCE suggest that god has a role in government.
In 1777's Articles of Confederation, there is only one instance that could possibly be construed to reference god, and that is "Great Governor of the World."
But there is no authority granted to religion in the Articles, whether they're talking about matters civil or governmental. Again, the Articles go out of their way to deny ANY religion any kind of authority.
The Constitution (which far too many people think is fromn 1776, and I bet you did too, cucked), makes ZERO reference to Jesus and/or Christianity. In fact, the only reference to religion in the Constitution is actively AGAINST religion:
And of course, let's not forget the First Amendment, which tells us:
Finally, we've got the Federalist Papers - which are not governing or founding documents, but reveal the intent and context under which our country was founded.
There is never a single instance of god or Christianity mentioned in the Federalist papers. The only time religion is mentioned is in discussion of ensuring that it is kept separate from government, and keeping religion free from governmental interference.
Our founding fathers were very clear of their intent: Religion has absolutely no place in our government. The United States of America is not a Christian nation. It is not a religious nation at all. It is a nation made up of religious and non-religious people. WE the People.
And to insist that we are anything different makes you un-American. YOU are un-American, cucked.
So as a Citizen of the United States of America, a member of We, the People, I say to you and everyone who repeats your lie:
Fuck you, you anti-American piece of filth. Go back where you came from.
Merry Christmas.
And I do it because obviously stupid, ignorant, moronic imbeciles like cucked, here, have no goddamned idea what this country was intended and founded to be.
Because people like cucked shout from the highest mountain how they want to "make America great again" without ever actually knowing anything other than what they've been told by other stupid, ignorant, moronic imbeciles - and NONE of them at ANY point have EVER bothered to educate themselves before they open their stupid, ignorant, moronic, imbecilic mouths.
I'm not sugar-coating this, because I'm really tired of the argument idiots try to make. Every single person who says that the US is, should be, must be, etc. a "christian nation" is spewing the most anti-American, unpatriotic, Constitution-hating bullshit that any citizen could ever utter.
Not a single one of our founding fathers advocated for ANY religion, be it Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Shintoist, Hindu, etc. There's a REASON that Jesus is NEVER mentioned in the Constitution.
They went out of their way to avoid references to god, deity or any higher power anywhere in the documents upon which this country is founded. They ALSO went out of their way to avoid - whatever their PERSONAL beliefs - any ties with religion in anything they wrote about government. In fact, they often in their writings made efforts to support a complete separation of religion from government (Jeffer's famous "wall of separation" in his letter to the Baptists being a prime example).
To those un-American people who wish to rid our country of Muslims, I would also point toward Jefferson, who wrote that the statute he brought to Virginia for religious freedom was, "...meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and the Mohammeden [Muslims], the Hindoo and Infidel of every demnomination."
He was VERY clear that he he wanted at all costs to avoid any single religion being dominant in society.
If you want proof, you take your un-American idiocy to four documents and read them, cucked, because you don't know jack shit about our country.
Go read the two most important: The Constitution of the United States of America and the Declaration of Independence.
Then go read the Articles of Confederation and the Federalist Papers.
But let me help you out, here.
Christians like to quote the Declaration of Independence especially, because of the following phrases: "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," "Supreme Judge of the world," "their Creator" and "divine Providence."
But the Christians are wrong, here. What the authors of the Declaration are referring to here are not God, they are referring to the idea of inherent human dignity. They never ONCE suggest that god has a role in government.
In 1777's Articles of Confederation, there is only one instance that could possibly be construed to reference god, and that is "Great Governor of the World."
But there is no authority granted to religion in the Articles, whether they're talking about matters civil or governmental. Again, the Articles go out of their way to deny ANY religion any kind of authority.
The Constitution (which far too many people think is fromn 1776, and I bet you did too, cucked), makes ZERO reference to Jesus and/or Christianity. In fact, the only reference to religion in the Constitution is actively AGAINST religion:
And of course, let's not forget the First Amendment, which tells us:
Finally, we've got the Federalist Papers - which are not governing or founding documents, but reveal the intent and context under which our country was founded.
There is never a single instance of god or Christianity mentioned in the Federalist papers. The only time religion is mentioned is in discussion of ensuring that it is kept separate from government, and keeping religion free from governmental interference.
Our founding fathers were very clear of their intent: Religion has absolutely no place in our government. The United States of America is not a Christian nation. It is not a religious nation at all. It is a nation made up of religious and non-religious people. WE the People.
And to insist that we are anything different makes you un-American. YOU are un-American, cucked.
So as a Citizen of the United States of America, a member of We, the People, I say to you and everyone who repeats your lie:
Fuck you, you anti-American piece of filth. Go back where you came from.
Merry Christmas.
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PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
he's got you there, Domer......
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
then you don't stand a chance......
Which early Christians actually didn't pay much attention to and didn't really see the point in celebrating? Yeah, it's entirely Pagan without any Christian significance.
Shoehorning in a birth that took place sometime in July (by best estimates) doesn't suddenly give the holiday Christian roots. It just means Christians needed to force information into what already existed.
You really don't abstract very well, do you?
I'm well aware that not all Christians believe trees have anything to do with Jesus.
And then there are the Christians who have told me it's symbolic of the Tree that Jesus was nailed to - which makes me laugh every time.
I'm sure philly idiot is one of the latter type, hence the reference.
And there you go again, saying "you atheists" without knowing what my actual beliefs are.
We know what YOUR beliefs are though, don't we? You're definitely one headed for hell.
Merry Christmas.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
lol....oh wait, you're the idiot who thinks the only real Christians were the gnostics, aren't you.......ROFL......
You once gave your age on these forums. If memory serves, it was in the 60s.
Are you sure it wasn't just 6?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
lol......you have it all fucked up.....he was was sacrificed BEFORE he was born, right?....I mean otherwise wouldn't Christmas be early in the year than Easter......for someone who believes in universal truth you certainly know very little of it.......what is REALLY confusing is how he managed to cram all that shit in between December and April, am I right?....its only a few months and he had to do all those miracles......