See post 58
U.S. military spending: increase by ~10%? By cutting what spending elsewhere?
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See post 58
moving the goal posts ????? see post 59....lmao
"Defense is a federal responsibility....municipal waterlines are not...." PP #49
Good point.
And as the sophisticated among us understand, it's complicated.
The U.S. Founders understood that a federal government over the States might seek to gain control, essentially depriving each State of some degree of sovereignty.
So they wrote into our Bill of Rights the 10th Amendment.
Our federal congress has insinuated its cudgel over States by over-taxing us, and then parceling back OUR $money to us, in the form of federal highway funds, etc. etc. etc.
And as you know, if the feds don't like something a State is doing, the feds can threaten to withhold those funds.
But in the real world, that's way, way, way too complicated.
"Defense is a federal responsibility....municipal waterlines are not...." PP #49
True.
But in the real world, irrelevant.
Humans need water. That's a fundamental & unrevocable fact.
And the lead contamination in municipal water supply today is a ticking time-bomb.
Shoulda woulda coulda
This has to be fixed.
Good point.
And as the sophisticated among us understand, it's complicated.
The U.S. Founders understood that a federal government over the States might seek to gain control, essentially depriving each State of some degree of sovereignty.
So they wrote into our Bill of Rights the 10th Amendment.
But as you observe, it's not enough.
Our federal congress has insinuated its cudgel over States by over-taxing us, and then parceling back OUR $money to us, in the form of federal highway funds, etc. etc. etc.
And as you know, if the feds don't like something a State is doing, the feds can threaten to withhold those funds.
The sensible thing would be to cut federal taxation in proportion to the amount needed by the water facility government which by raising taxes correspondingly, could then fund their own upgrade operations.
But in the real world, that's way, way, way too complicated.
"Defense is a federal responsibility....municipal waterlines are not...." PP #49
True.
But in the real world, irrelevant.
Humans need water. That's a fundamental & unrevocable fact.
And the lead contamination in municipal water supply today is a ticking time-bomb.
Shoulda woulda coulda
This has to be fixed.
christiefan915
Catalyst
You're right, I missed it.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Now I know you're barking mad. Post 40: "What do you mean by hire more soldiers, we have a volunteer military."
christiefan915
Catalyst
tsuke said: "actually if you spent more on military you get to hire more soldiers..."
Would you be called a soldier if you were hired w/o conscription? I thought your title would be military contractor, or something like that.
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Oh, hi
What is your point? And nice insult btw, I didn't insult you, but you insulted me. I seem to recall you are against insults.
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Oh, hi
A soldier hired without conscription, yes, they would be called a soldier. The US military hires them every year.
We HIRE soldiers and sailors for our Armed Forces....they volunteer for the job....
Todays 'military contractor' is yesterdays 'mercenary soldier'....cute little play on words.....
Getting back to the op....why did you ignore my post #47, Cricket.
christiefan915
Catalyst
First, is there a difference between a military contractor and a soldier and if so, what is it?
Second, I haven't researched 47 yet but just from what you posted I would be against it 100%.
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You could eliminate the entire departments. Don't need them
Education can be handled by the state and local governments where they belong.
But I get it. You need gobblement to control your life
I guess without the government there would be ZERO energy produce. No crops. Zero commerce etc.
christiefan915
Catalyst
I looked up contractors and they are private companies.
A private military company (PMC) is a private company providing armed combat and/or security services. PMCs refer to their staff as "security contractors" or "private military contractors". Private military companies refer to their business generally as the "private military industry" or "The Circuit".[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] The United Nations, in a convention so far ratified by 35 states, considers PMCs to be mercenaries and prohibits them; the United Kingdom, Russia, China, and the United States are not signatories to the convention, and the United States has rejected the UN's classification of PMCs as mercenaries.[SUP][3][/SUP]
christiefan915
Catalyst
My point is that you lied about what I said, and claimed I moved the goalposts.
McCain: Trump defense budget not enough for 'world on fire'
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/321374-mccain-trump-defense-budget-not-enough-for-world-on-fire
In a white paper released in January, McCain outlined his vision for $640 billion for 2018 with annual increases afterward that bring the defense budget to $800 billion in fiscal 2022.
The $640 billion is $54 billion above what the Obama administration had projected for 2018.
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/321374-mccain-trump-defense-budget-not-enough-for-world-on-fire
In a white paper released in January, McCain outlined his vision for $640 billion for 2018 with annual increases afterward that bring the defense budget to $800 billion in fiscal 2022.
The $640 billion is $54 billion above what the Obama administration had projected for 2018.
"Would you be called a soldier" c9 #67
Only if hired by the U.S. Army.
Those hired by the U.S. Air Force are called "airmen".
Those hired by the U.S. Marine Corp. are called "marines".
Those hired by the U.S. Navy are called "sailors".
"if you were hired w/o conscription?" c9 #67
It doesn't matter.
Conscription means Compulsory enrollment. So the above titles apply whether the soldier / airman / marine / sailor volunteered or not.
" I thought your title would be military contractor "
That's for civilians.
When an employee holds military rank, they're not a civilian.
Only if hired by the U.S. Army.
Those hired by the U.S. Air Force are called "airmen".
Those hired by the U.S. Marine Corp. are called "marines".
Those hired by the U.S. Navy are called "sailors".
"if you were hired w/o conscription?" c9 #67
It doesn't matter.
Conscription means Compulsory enrollment. So the above titles apply whether the soldier / airman / marine / sailor volunteered or not.
" I thought your title would be military contractor "
That's for civilians.
When an employee holds military rank, they're not a civilian.
#72
Our federal government provides a means to both coordinate and standardize to both national, and global standards.
"Education can be handled by the state and local governments where they belong."
True.
But not as well.
It's not merely a question of who can handle it. It's a matter of which level of government can handle it best.
Prior to national standards, it was a hodgepodge. And the problem with that is, in our globalized economy, we can't compete as effectively as a nation if the nations against which we compete maintain high national standards, and we don't.
We can't continue to be the best if we are not the best. And our educational standing in the world has been slipping steadily and substantially.
If not for providing visas for immigrants to fill our high tech jobs, we'd already have lost the top spot.
And with the Trump administration's xenophobia, the bright and well educated professionals from abroad that might otherwise have emigrated here may instead go to a more immigrant friendly nation like Canada, or Australia.
Our federal government provides a means to both coordinate and standardize to both national, and global standards.
"Education can be handled by the state and local governments where they belong."
True.
But not as well.
It's not merely a question of who can handle it. It's a matter of which level of government can handle it best.
Prior to national standards, it was a hodgepodge. And the problem with that is, in our globalized economy, we can't compete as effectively as a nation if the nations against which we compete maintain high national standards, and we don't.
We can't continue to be the best if we are not the best. And our educational standing in the world has been slipping steadily and substantially.
If not for providing visas for immigrants to fill our high tech jobs, we'd already have lost the top spot.
And with the Trump administration's xenophobia, the bright and well educated professionals from abroad that might otherwise have emigrated here may instead go to a more immigrant friendly nation like Canada, or Australia.
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Oh, hi
I did not lie about what you said. What do you think I lied about?
You hate me so much, I believe you make things up about me because you think I'm some former poster that did you wrong. I did not lie. Everything I said was the absolute truth and if you don't recant, well, that says more about you than me.
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Interesting. Seems we have been losing ground ever since the unions and gobblement took over.
But you loves ya some gobblement so you probably disagree. Don forget to genuflect
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