NFL: League NOT seeking mandate for players to stand during anthem

[Bigdog]

bringing up how much money they have?

.

Why do you give these OWS 1%ers a pass? ... It's because you are a fucking racist.

 

[blackascoal]

Why do you give these OWS 1%ers a pass? ... It's because you are a fucking racist.

So damn giggle-worthy reading a white racist like you calling other white people a racist. :0)

 

[Bigdog]

So damn giggle-worthy reading a white racist like you calling other white people a racist. :0)

It's even funnier to watch a "socialist" lick the anuses of filthy rich capitalist pigs.

 

[dukkha]

Why do you idiots keep bringing up how much money they have?

Are you of the opinion that once people make money, they should shut up about inequality or any other issue that bothers them? That they should just be happy and keep quiet?

Please expound.

it's part ( not all -you didn't address the full post) of how out of touch they are to middle america

 

[dukkha]

Protest isn't always popular, dopey.

MOST Americans were for the invasion of Iraq also, and against the protestors. Who was right on that one? Should the protestors have "shut up?"

Grow up, anatta.

thanks for a nothingness response.we're talking messaging here.
stay out of what you don't understand

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

it's part ( not all -you didn't address the full post) of how out of touch they are to middle america

Civil rights in the '60's was "out of touch" with middle America. Opposing Iraq was.

Grow up. Protest isn't comfortable.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

thanks for a nothingness response.we're talking messaging here.
stay out of what you don't understand

Yeah - I know this message is too "complex" for your simple mind.

You don't understand how players can be "unified" too as they protest. Too much for you.

 

[Darth Omar]

Civil rights in the '60's was "out of touch" with middle America. Opposing Iraq was.

Grow up. Protest isn't comfortable.

The Vietnam war was a real thing though lol.

 

[dukkha]

"Organizers understood you have to have a singular message you can drive home. STOP THE WAR.NOW.
not a bunch of shifting hostility to the flag/Trump/whatever these guys struggle with"

There were no single "organizers" .. there was no single message as the Vietnam protests took place in the middle of the Civil Rights Era.

There was LOTS of shifting hostility to not only the flag, but also to the military and the American government.

You haven't asked me what the message was because the message is abundantly clear no matter how much you and the right try to ignore it. The murders of innocent and unarmed African-Americans by the police

If you don't believe the protests are valid, or you don't know what any of this is about, or you believe this is just grandstanding my black athletes who make too much money .. I don't care.

Where is the argument?

What is your message?

there were most certainly organizers. there were leadership like Viet Vets Against the war. Students for a Democratic Society ( i was part of that- SDS) -as well as crossovers like Yippies and Black panthers..
and Hippys of course, (but they were not organizers)..

Thanks for attempting an answer "shifting hostility" I used as a term for "messaging" -is this the message?

The murders of innocent and unarmed African-Americans by the police

because it gets lost in "unity" and otherwise..you guys need a better message. "Stop killing us" -something like that.

I didn't say the protests had no validity -i said their validity is compromised and lost when you drag it in during the anthem.. You should do it at another time during the game,and you would get clarity of purpose and a much more sympathetic auduence

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

The Vietnam war was a real thing though lol.

And there it is. What the NFL guys are protesting isn't a "real thing," per Darth.

There is no unequal treatment under the law. Racism is over in America.

Who exactly is out of touch here?

 

[dukkha]

Yeah - I know this message is too "complex" for your simple mind.
You don't understand how players can be "unified" too as they protest. Too much for you.

complexity is not wanted for protesting..you need a straight forward mantra type saying.

 

[dukkha]

And there it is. What the NFL guys are protesting isn't a "real thing," per Darth.

There is no unequal treatment under the law. Racism is over in America.

Who exactly is out of touch here? You know, in a few decades, you guys are gonna be in the minority. Better gear up.

you keep making this more complex,and diluting the message. Others are doing the same.
settle on a message

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

there were most certainly organizers. there were leadership like Viet Vets Against the war. Students for a Democratic Society ( i was part of that- SDS) -as well as crossovers like Yippies and Black panthers..
and Hippys of course, (but they were not organizers)..

Thanks for attempting an answer "shifting hostility" I used as a term for "messaging" -is this the message?
because it gets lost in "unity" and otherwise..you guys need a better message. "Stop killing us" -something like that.

I didn't say the protests had no validity -i said their validity is compromised and lost when you drag it in during the anthem.. You should do it at another time during the game,and you would get clarity of purpose and a much more sympathetic auduence

Ah, yes - protest comfortably, in a way that makes people happy & feel good. That will get a lot of press.

Completely ignores every year of American history.

 

[dukkha]

Civil rights in the '60's was "out of touch" with middle America. Opposing Iraq was.

Grow up. Protest isn't comfortable.

pablum

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

you keep making this more complex,and diluting the message. Others are doing the same.
settle on a message

It's not complex.

Grow up.

 

[dukkha]

Ah, yes - protest comfortably, in a way that makes people happy & feel good. That will get a lot of press.

Completely ignores every year of American history.

the problem is you are between a rock and a hard place. If you do it during the anthem, you get all kinds of blowback-it becomes unpopular and lost in the patriotism most of us want to express.. Which is why I mentioned doing it right before or afterwards, then you get coverage but still separation from the anthem

 

[Darth Omar]

And there it is. What the NFL guys are protesting isn't a "real thing," per Darth.

There is no unequal treatment under the law. Racism is over in America.

Who exactly is out of touch here?

Well, the Vietnam war was only one thing lol.

I thought they decided on what exactly, they were protesting?

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

the problem is you are between a rock and a hard place. If you do it during the anthem, you get all kinds of blowback-it becomes unpopular and lost in the patriotism most of us want to express.. Which is why I mentioned doing it right before or afterwards, then you get coverage but still separation from the anthem

Why would it get coverage?

The only reason Kaep got coverage was because it was controversial. They wouldn't get more than minimal coverage w/ your "palatable" method.

It's so weird to hear you talk about protest that way. It's not always supposed to be comfy.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Well, the Vietnam war was only one thing lol.

I thought they decided on what exactly, they were protesting?

You really minimize their concerns. It's sad how out of touch you are w/ what's happening in America.

 

[dukkha]

Why would it get coverage?

The only reason Kaep got coverage was because it was controversial. They wouldn't get more than minimal coverage w/ your "palatable" method.

It's so weird to hear you talk about protest that way. It's not always supposed to be comfy.

who said "comfortable"? I'm taliking effective. you should be looking to reform the grand jury process