Are we better off with a discredited FBI?

I'm not surprised that there are some Republicans who are not devoted to Trump, I'm relieved. Proof that, while I may not support a Republican president over all when they win an election, I can still support the process because there are still Republicans who also support the process. You all aren't the deplorables you try so desperately to portray yourselves as. Good for you.

3) Before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he maintained contact with DOJ via then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, a senior DOJ official who worked closely with Deputy Attorneys General Yates and later Rosenstein. Shortly after the election, the FBI began interviewing Ohr, documenting his communications with Steele. For example, in September 2016, Steele admitted to Ohr his feelings against then-candidate Trump when Steele said he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not, being president.” This clear evidence of Steele’s bias was recorded by Ohr at the time and subsequently in official FBI files— but not reflected in any of the Page FISA applications.

a) During this same time period, Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump.
Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the FISC.



Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

AND:

1) The “dossier” compiled by Christopher Steele (Steele dossier) on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign formed an essential part of the Carter Page FISA application. Steele was a longtime FBI source who was paid over $160,000 by the DNC and Clinton campaign, via the law firm Perkins Coie and research firm Fusion GPS, to obtain derogatory information on Donald Trump’s ties to Russia.



AND:

4) According to the head of the counterintelligence division, Assistant Director Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steele dossier was in its “infancy” at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steele was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unit within FBI assessed Steele’s reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yet, in early January 2017, Director Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steele dossier, even though it was—according to his June 2017 testimony—“salacious and unverified.” While the FISA application relied on Steele’s past record of credible reporting on other unrelated matters, it ignored or concealed his anti-Trump financial and ideological motivations.

a) Neither the initial application in October 2016, nor any of the renewals, disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior DOJ and FBI officials.


That's a wrap.
 
A majority were recovered for one. Second, what does it have to do with this thread?

Hillary's deleted emails manage to find their way into just about every thread so I included other deleted emails. The fact that they may have been recovered is beside the damn point. Seriously?

Also, these threads wander all over the damn place so I think I'm comfortable introducing what ever the hell I want into one. Thanks for your question though. Way to stay alert.
 
Ok, let’s judge Mueller’s investigation on its merits, thus far lol.

Thus far, Mueller gets a C- for scoring a couple process crime indictments THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO with his mandate.

And I’m being generous.

The delicious irony is that, thus far, all the corruption has been exposed on the fricking investigators!

Like I said in another thread, Putin has to be laughing his ass off. And not at or because of Trump.

You're talking about the investigation like you know what the evidence is, and what their conclusions will be.

I think that's been the issue all along. Some think that investigations are these wide open kinds of things, where we know every fact & development as soon as the investigators do. That's not how it works, or how it should work.
 
He was presenting a moral equivalence , dumbass.

And there is none they weren't under subpoena and most if not all were recovered there was no Mens Rea unlike the bleach bit used and the devices smashed with hammers demonstrating criminal intent to permanently destroy evidence.
 
And there is none they weren't under subpoena and most if not all were recovered there was no Mens Rea unlike the bleach bit used and the devices smashed with hammers demonstrating criminal intent to permanently destroy evidence.

You've somehow managed to up your syllable count. Have a go at punctuation.
 
Hillary's deleted emails manage to find their way into just about every thread so I included other deleted emails. The fact that they may have been recovered is beside the damn point. Seriously?

Also, these threads wander all over the damn place so I think I'm comfortable introducing what ever the hell I want into one. Thanks for your question though. Way to stay alert.

You do not have ADD do you?
 
fuck off retard. This is a free speech forum, and us mods are able to conduct ourselves however we wish. We don't hold ourselves to some bullshit arbitrary moral standard.

Your "crying Thingy" graphic is pretty ironic in light of that, though. You sound like the tense one on this thread - the one shaking his fists at the sky.

Just an observation. No disrespect intended.
 
The FBI LEADERSHIP ( so called 7th floor) are corrupt. Look at the demotions already.
Page
Strozk
Baker
Ribyiki (sp?)
McCabe..

virtually every time we talk about 'FBI corruption' -it's said as "FBI leadership"

Thing's OP doesn't separate it out -but nobody has any problems with the so called 'rank and file' agents.
Hopefully Thing ( and others) stop the conflation about "discrediting the FBI"
 
You're talking about the investigation like you know what the evidence is, and what their conclusions will be.

I think that's been the issue all along. Some think that investigations are these wide open kinds of things, where we know every fact & development as soon as the investigators do. That's not how it works, or how it should work.

The entire Mueller investigation is fruit from the poison tree as demonstrated by the Nunes memo.
 
The FBI LEADERSHIP ( so called 7th floor) are corrupt. Look at the demotions already.
Page
Strozk
Baker
Ribyiki (sp?)
McCabe..

virtually every time we talk about 'FBI corruption' -it's said as "FBI leadership"

Thing's OP doesn't separate it out -but nobody has any problems with the so called 'rank and file' agents.
Hopefully Thing ( and others) stop the conflation about "discrediting the FBI"

Honestly, the bolded just shows that you're aware on some level of how damaging this is.

Yesterday's tweet was the first time I heard Trump separate it, and give praise to the rank & file. Not saying it's the first time he's done that, but as someone who follows him pretty closely, the vast majority of what he puts out there does not differentiate. He, Hannity & the rest talk about the FBI like it's a corrupt, partisan organization through & through. And he has spoken that way about the intel community & media as well.

It's reckless, and ham-handed at best. And it's all for self-preservation...he doesn't care what happens to America.
 
Are we better off with a discredited FBI?

Yes. Trump was elected on a wave of American urgency for change. Might as well clean the outhouse along with the house.
 
The racist white men who are now against the FBI are still butt hurt that a Black man and Black woman led the FBI and the Government.

That's what all this is about. They know dump and his administration colluded with Russians and they are using the FBI (that was lead by Blacks) as a scape goat.

I don't put anything past racist white men...and neither should Americans.
 
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