Liberal ideas move from fringe to front-burner for Democrats

[CFM]

What makes you think that, knowing that businesses know government assistance programs exist?

Because $5/hour skills are worth $5/hour.

None of those I pay use social welfare. They get paid a wage equivalent to their skills and I make a profit. The few that have grumbled about the pay have been given an option. Either find somewhere else that pays more if you don't think you're making enough or get the fuck back to work because I'm not paying people to bitch and whine. To those that say they can make more somewhere else, I tell them if they can, that's where they should be working. Interesting thing is none have left for that higher pay.

 

[CFM]

Who says the skill is worth that? Just you.

The minimum base pay skill wage is $15/hr, and we know this because that's the maximum benchmark qualifier for most assistance programs.

The one doing the paying.

You don't know shit, boy. You keep making up things that simply aren't true.

 

[The Derp]

Not necessarily. Their skills are worth what the employer says they're worth since they're paying.

No they're not! In no world is that true. In no economic literacy is that ever the case. You're making this shit up as you go, aren't you? Who taught you this? You clearly didn't come to it on your own.

That someone demands welfare has nothing to do with the low wage but the low skills.

No one's demanding welfare; people qualify for it and they qualify for it because businesses are reliant on welfare to maintain their profit margins.

'm pro personal responsibility. Someone demanding welfare isn't being responsible.

Horseshit. Being responsible means knowing what you're talking about, not making it up as you go.

 

[The Derp]

Micawber is as much of a dumbass as you, boy.

You're just poor white trash.

 

[The Derp]

They offer low wages because the worker getting them offers low skills.

So where is it written that certain skills result in certain pay?

Costco pays its workers $18/hr for doing the same job that Walmart pays its workers $10/hr.

So....

People aren't entitled to a welfare check.

Yes they are, because they qualify for it thanks to the shit wages their employers pay.

You're mad at the wrong people; you should be reserving your resentment for the businesses who perpetuate low wages in order to selfishly achieve profit margins.

 

[CFM]

No they're not! In no world is that true. In no economic literacy is that ever the case. You're making this shit up as you go, aren't you? Who taught you this? You clearly didn't come to it on your own.




No one's demanding welfare; people qualify for it and they qualify for it because businesses are reliant on welfare to maintain their profit margins.




Horseshit. Being responsible means knowing what you're talking about, not making it up as you go.

When they go and say give it to me, it's a demand.

People get it because they expect someone else to meet their need.

You don't get to decide what I pay my employees. I tell you nigger.

 

[CFM]

So where is it written that certain skills result in certain pay?

Costco pays its workers $18/hr for doing the same job that Walmart pays its workers $10/hr.

So....




Yes they are, because they qualify for it thanks to the shit wages their employers pay.

You're mad at the wrong people; you should be reserving your resentment for the businesses who perpetuate low wages in order to selfishly achieve profit margins.

In the bookkeeping ledgers of the business doing the paying.

Why don't the Walmart workers apply as Costco?

 

[The Derp]

Because $5/hour skills are worth $5/hour.

From where are you getting this? From the top of your head. It's all improvised with you; you just make this shit up as you go.

How do you account for a business that pays $18/hr for the same job another business pays $10/hr? According to you, there's a standard for skill that correlates to pay; but you have some businesses paying much more for the same job than other businesses (Walmart vs. Costco): so how come it's lowest common denominator and not highest common numerator?

Don't worry, I know you won't answer that.

 

[CFM]

You're just poor white trash.

That I'm white is the only one of the three you got correct. Not bad for a stupid nigger.

 

[The Derp]

None of those I pay use social welfare.

1. I don't believe you own a business.
2. You can't prove you own a business.
3. Even if you did, you won't verify because you know it'll open you up to personal scrutiny because...
4. ...you're full of shit.

 

[The Derp]

They get paid a wage equivalent to their skills and I make a profit. The few that have grumbled about the pay have been given an option. Either find somewhere else that pays more if you don't think you're making enough or get the fuck back to work because I'm not paying people to bitch and whine. To those that say they can make more somewhere else, I tell them if they can, that's where they should be working. Interesting thing is none have left for that higher pay.

This is Randian fanfic.

No one believes for a second that you own a business. And you will never prove that you do.

So you do exactly what I said you did before; you lie about yourself in order to lend your weak argument credibility it doesn't have.

What a pussy.

 

[The Derp]

The one doing the paying.

Not "the market"? Geez, for someone who loves free market principles, you sure hate them in practice.

How do you account for the pay disparity between Walmart and Costco? Workers for both companies do the same job, yet Costco pays $18/hr while Walmart pays $10? So what's the value of the labor? Is it $18/hr or is it $10? You're the one who said skill correlates to pay, so correlate away, boy wonder!

 

[The Derp]

You don't know shit, boy. You keep making up things that simply aren't true.

Accusing me of doing the things you do is called projection.

Kill yourself.

 

[The Derp]

When they go and say give it to me, it's a demand.

It's businesses who are demanding they get it because otherwise, they'd have to pay their workers more.

 

[The Derp]

WPeople get it because they expect someone else to meet their need.

You mean they expect their employer to pay them enough money to survive? Fancy that someone would have the nerve to demand a wage high enough for doing a job.

You don't get to decide what I pay my employees. I tell you nigger.

No one believes for a second that you have a business.

 

[The Derp]

In the bookkeeping ledgers of the business doing the paying.

LOL!

You have a big problem in your argument. You think wage determines someone's skill, yet the wage for the same position at Walmart as Costco is an $8/hr gap. So what's the true value of those retail workers? Is it the $10/hr Walmart pays or the $18/hr Costco pays?

You're the one who said that wage is determinant to skill, so is the retail wage $10/hr or $18/hr? Correlate away!

Why don't the Walmart workers apply as Costco?

Why not answer the fucking quesiton instead of dodging like a coward?

What is the true value of the skill set if Walmart pays $10/hr for the same job at Costco that pays $18/hr????

You're the one who made that shitty correlation argument, so put your money where your fat mouth is.

 

[CFM]

From where are you getting this? From the top of your head. It's all improvised with you; you just make this shit up as you go.

How do you account for a business that pays $18/hr for the same job another business pays $10/hr? According to you, there's a standard for skill that correlates to pay; but you have some businesses paying much more for the same job than other businesses (Walmart vs. Costco): so how come it's lowest common denominator and not highest common numerator?

Don't worry, I know you won't answer that.

From the same place I get that you don't pay $40,000 for a vehicle that's worth $20,000.

It's easy to account for it. One business that's paying has determined it's worth a certain amount and another that determined a different amount. Never said there was a standard that Job A is worth amount B. The standard is determined by the one doing the paying which means the amount can vary based on the one making the decision.

It's easy if those Walmart people don't like the pay their. Apply at Costco. There's a reason a lot won't get hired just like a lot of those working at McDonald's, BK, Wendy's, etc. won't get hired at a five star restaurant. It's the person.

 

[The Derp]

That I'm white is the only one of the three you got correct. Not bad for a stupid nigger.

There's no way you will ever verify any of your claims about yourself.

You hide behind the shadow of anonymity the internet provides because you're a coward and a loser.

But if you want to play that game, fine.

I know people in your life and none of them say you're an actual business owner. In fact, they all say you're a poseur who is on SSDI.

 

[The Derp]

From the same place I get that you don't pay $40,000 for a vehicle that's worth $20,000.

You keep dodging. Why not just admit that you're pulling this all from your ass.

Walmart pays its retail workers $10/hr, Costco pays them $18/hr. So are their skills worth $10/hr or $18/hr? You're the one who said skill correlates to pay, so correlate that mess.

 

[CFM]

LOL!

You have a big problem in your argument. You think wage determines someone's skill, yet the wage for the same position at Walmart as Costco is an $8/hr gap. So what's the true value of those retail workers? Is it the $10/hr Walmart pays or the $18/hr Costco pays?

You're the one who said that wage is determinant to skill, so is the retail wage $10/hr or $18/hr? Correlate away!




Why not answer the fucking quesiton instead of dodging like a coward?

What is the true value of the skill set if Walmart pays $10/hr for the same job at Costco that pays $18/hr????

You're the one who made that shitty correlation argument, so put your money where your fat mouth is.

You have it wrong and leave out things. A skill determines the way with the one paying determining what that wage is worth.

The real value is both. One payer has determined one amount and the other payer a different amount. Same as buying a vehicle.


Why don't you apply at Costco if the $10/hour you make at Walmart isn't enough, boy. Get off your ass and do something.