Poll: Large majorities of Americans want to preserve Obamacare's consumer protections

anonymoose is getting exposed for the racist fraud he is.

yea, sure, in racist white man gobble gook speak .

Riding the SHORT Race hustling BUS
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The TROLL TRAIN!
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Actually, it's quite relevant because your entire argument is predicated on this belief that I'm jealous of you because you have someone else paying for your health care.

So it's paramount that I accept your premise, otherwise you have nothing to argue.

Your belief has nothing to do with the facts, boy.

Your claim is that is my argument. You've already acknowledged what I have. Jealousy is the result of you not having it.
 
The irony of this whole discussion is that on this post you're bitching at me for supporting using your tax dollars for something you don't want, then on another you'll be justifying extremely broad government spending to enforce YOUR idea of morality. Like protecting "society" from nonviolent drug users. This is tens of billions of dollars annually going down the toilet for this. Not including the demanding cost of incarcerating them. That's just to catch them. Gets worse when you realize drug abuse is worse now than when the drug war started so it's not even effective at doing what you want it to do. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you're a fake ass fiscal conservative. You don't get to be on your high horse about taxes when you support some of the most wasteful shit programs our government has to offer just because you'd rather spend tax money throwing people in a cage rather than feeding or clothing them.

The only thing further I have to say to you is: get the hell over it. Nearly half of my paycheck has been going to militarize law enforcement, throw peaceful people in prison, spy on the public, bomb other countries, bail out failing industries, and countless other crap for decades I'm very much ideologically and morally opposed to. Totaling trillions on trillions by now. If you end up spending money to treat someone's cancer, I'm frankly not going to shed a tear over your plight. Maybe if we come together as a country and begin to utilize solutions to our problems outside the state, reducing our dependence on state institutions to manifest social change, we can talk. But you can't have it both ways. At the end of the day, we can sit here and debate the merit, effectiveness, efficiency, outcomes of these programs...but you have no place playing the victim complaining about theft through taxation. That's laughable, considering the bloated government you yourself support holding a gun at my head to fund.

In the end, your entire argument centers around things not being done your way and you not getting to do all the drugs you want. When you use phrases like "maybe if we come together as a country . . " proves that unless it's done YOUR way you think it's wrong. You only want to talk when people agree to your side.

Do all the drugs you want. Maybe you'll get some bad drugs and you'll die a horrible, painful death while the kids of the single mother with three baby daddies are asking your for a sandwich. All that to say that someone else's choices are not another group's responsibility to offset. Arguing general welfare means providing people with what they won't do for themselves or being their ATM when their choices produce results they either didn't expect or can't handle has, and always will be, an invalid argument.
 
Bob Dole was the last repub I ever voted for in a pres. election - 22 yrs. ago. lol You're a classic moonbeam - anyone who disagrees with you is a Trumpster and/or rayciss although I think most moonbeams finally don't use the rayciss card as much since it got worn out and since Trump got elected.odern liberals basterdized the term liberal and classical liberalism was the original.

I don't believe anything you say about yourself because you operate exclusively in bad faith here.
 
lol, it's already well established you can't read.

LOL!

That's not what you linked to originally.

And did you actually go to the site and check for SHOP plans? I did, and guess what I found? For the Anchorage area, for 49 employees with an average age of 45, Healthcare.gov's SHOP marketplace offers 28 FUCKING PLANS

So you fucking lied. You've been lying. You lie your fat, smelly, ugly, stupid ass off on these boards.

What a phony.

What a fraud.

What a joke.
 
anonymoose is getting exposed for the racist fraud he is.

He's a liar.

Imagine being so insecure that you have to come on an anonymous message board and lie about yourself, just to feel better about being a garbage person.

He lied about owning a business. He lied about providing health care for his fake employees. Are we entirely sure he's not lying about being an American? Can't say for sure.
 
Your belief has nothing to do with the facts, boy.

Your claim is that is my argument. You've already acknowledged what I have. Jealousy is the result of you not having it.

Here are the facts: you're lying about yourself. You play pretend because you think it makes your argument more credible. But it doesn't. Inventing personal circumstances out of thin air and trying to pretend they're real is key insight into how disturbed and insecure you are.

Kill yourself.
 
Hello hvilleherb,



And he let you down; but still you won't hold his feet to the fire.

The right has become cheerleaders for failure.

he did get rid of Obamacare, that you choose to sleep through it is your choice
nut-bag

and some advice, why don't you stay in threads where you ban members who might respond to your uninformed diatribe

you're embarrassing yourself
 
he did get rid of Obamacare, that you choose to sleep through it is your choice
nut-bag

and some advice, why don't you stay in threads where you ban members who might respond to your uninformed diatribe

you're embarrassing yourself

Wow, some Democrats still don't realize that ObamaCare has been ripped to pieces.

And then they have the nerve to call us uninformed and stupid.
 
He's a liar.

Imagine being so insecure that you have to come on an anonymous message board and lie about yourself, just to feel better about being a garbage person.

He lied about owning a business. He lied about providing health care for his fake employees. Are we entirely sure he's not lying about being an American? Can't say for sure.

Racist white men have to lie to keep up the charade that everyone else bad.
 
Wow, some Democrats still don't realize that ObamaCare has been ripped to pieces.

And as a result, premium increases this fall will be the highest in years since before the ACA.

Good job, idiots.

Really going to do well for your electoral prospects when Joe Inbred goes to enroll in health insurance and finds his $200/mo premium is now $700/mo.
 
In the end, your entire argument centers around things not being done your way and you not getting to do all the drugs you want. When you use phrases like "maybe if we come together as a country . . " proves that unless it's done YOUR way you think it's wrong. You only want to talk when people agree to your side.

Do all the drugs you want. Maybe you'll get some bad drugs and you'll die a horrible, painful death while the kids of the single mother with three baby daddies are asking your for a sandwich. All that to say that someone else's choices are not another group's responsibility to offset. Arguing general welfare means providing people with what they won't do for themselves or being their ATM when their choices produce results they either didn't expect or can't handle has, and always will be, an invalid argument.

Actually, my entire argument centers around your hypocrisy concerning the budget. It's painful to watch you scrambling to ease your cognitive dissonance on this matter.
 
Wow, some Democrats still don't realize that ObamaCare has been ripped to pieces.

And then they have the nerve to call us uninformed and stupid.


what Republicans don't realize is that Trump's numbers are in the low 30s and this is part of why that is
 
Actually, my entire argument centers around your hypocrisy concerning the budget. It's painful to watch you scrambling to ease your cognitive dissonance on this matter.

There has been nothing but consistency with my stance on whether or not one person has the responsibility to feed another person's kids, provide them with healthcare coverage, etc. I don't believe it is and you, in an effort to claim compassion, disagree.

No, you're entire argument has been 'you don't agree with me, therefore, you're wrong'

If you want someone without healthcare coverage to have it, pay their premiums. If you want someone else's kids who aren't feeding their own to have food, make them a sandwich. I'm not their ATM.
 
Hello anonymoose,



I'd be interested in hearing more about Moosecare.
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Everybody pays into healthcare. It can be a tax deductible HSA, or taxes but everybody pays into it much like SS. Those that choose to pay into an HSA must use the funds from that for their health care. All medical fees will be made available before a procedure is performed. That way a patient can choose how best to use his funds like any other consumer. Those that choose to pay a tax for their health care go to a doc who accepts pre-set gubmint fees same as Medicaide or go to a gubmint emloyed salaried doc much like a VA doc.
Anyone who utilizes hlth care after they've used up their HSA must pay into the taxable medical fund.
This is a system that should satisfy everyone form free market advocates (like me) to socialists (those that would use the salaried docs).
The key to its success is that everybody is required to pay into it. It would not be cheap, but it would be fair. I'd call it the Fairness in Care Act and ditch the Unaffordable Care Act.
There's a lot more to this so if you have any questions pls ask.
 
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