DNA test said man was 4% BLACK. Now he wants to qualify as a minority business owner

Bigdog said:
" ... the results were enough for Taylor to update his birth certificate last November: It now says that he is black, Native American and Caucasian.

Taylor acknowledges that he looks white. But despite being “visually Caucasian,” as he puts it, he considers himself to be multiracial.

“I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.

The legal battle got its start in 2013. With the test results in hand, Taylor applied to get his insurance agency certified as a minority-owned business by Washington state’s Office of Minority and Women’s Business Enterprises. As the Seattle Times first reported, he was initially rejected on the grounds that he wasn’t visibly identifiable as a minority. ... "



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Did Don renege on a bet with him too? Imagine if all you sniveling self victimized white guys all found out you ain't pure white.
 
Bigdog said:
Even Tdak can't define Black :palm:
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scares the fuck out of you racists huh


how can you know who to hate if you cant tell whos black


I think we should make all the proud boys take a DNA test


but then you and them don't believe in science huh


racist and fact adverse

what a pack of fucking losers
 
Question. Why does anyone care what these ignorant right wing Repuke losers think about anything. Look at the board. It is littered with sixth grade retarded thread titles from little fascist troll living in moms garage in whatever flyover hellscape their poor ancestors stopped on the way west in the 1800s. They will never go anywhere, be anything important, never get a decent education. They will eke out a living, or not, to raise children who pray to god they can escape to the east coast or California or Seattle or fuck sake, anywhere. But you guys respond to these low life trash as if they had a point. They have no point and no reason to even wake up and drop a sanka into that Dixie cup in the morning.
 
Micawber said:
Question. Why does anyone care what these ignorant right wing Repuke losers think about anything. Look at the board. It is littered with sixth grade retarded thread titles from little fascist troll living in moms garage in whatever flyover hellscape their poor ancestors stopped on the way west in the 1800s. They will never go anywhere, be anything important, never get a decent education. They will eke out a living, or not, to raise children who pray to god they can escape to the east coast or California or Seattle or fuck sake, anywhere. But you guys respond to these low life trash as if they had a point. They have no point and no reason to even wake up and drop a sanka into that Dixie cup in the morning.
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You continually post and respond. What's that say?
 
Who needs a DNA test? You can just identify as whatever you want. ANd go into any bathroom you choose.
 
Bigdog said:
" ... the results were enough for Taylor to update his birth certificate last November: It now says that he is black, Native American and Caucasian.

Taylor acknowledges that he looks white. But despite being “visually Caucasian,” as he puts it, he considers himself to be multiracial.

“I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.

The legal battle got its start in 2013. With the test results in hand, Taylor applied to get his insurance agency certified as a minority-owned business by Washington state’s Office of Minority and Women’s Business Enterprises. As the Seattle Times first reported, he was initially rejected on the grounds that he wasn’t visibly identifiable as a minority. ... "



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Defining race genetically doesn't make sense if you're talking about affirmative action. There are two major arguments in favor of affirmative action:

(1) To counterbalance the negative impact of racism individuals have experienced, to create a fairer overall system at the individual level.

(2) To seed under-privileged communities with more successful people, to disrupt some of the forces that create systemic racism.

When you're dealing with someone who doesn't appear to be a member of a discriminated-against minority group, then the first argument in favor of affirmative action doesn't apply (he wasn't subjected to racism, because people weren't aware he had any link to that race).

When he's also not from one of the under-privileged communities, the second argument doesn't apply either. It's not, for example, like if this "visually Caucasian" person has more business success, thanks to getting more business contracts from the government as a "minority" business owner, he will serve as an inspiration for other blacks in underprivileged communities and otherwise contribute to those communities in ways we might expect to disrupt the racial-underclass dynamics of our society.

Unfortunately, while it's clear this guy should not be treated as a minority for those purposes, it's not at all clear how the government should design and implement rules to prevent such misfires (which will become increasingly common the more racial lines break down).

What I'd advocate is a shift of affirmative action to a economic and geographic model. For example, designate people based on how the average income of their parents when they were children compared to the average income in their geographic area. That would give preferential treatment to those who had less advantages growing up.... which would also have a tendency to disproportionately help out underprivileged minority groups, and to seed poorer communities with successful people.

Just as a quick side note, there are also issues around those who are not members of races that get affirmative action, but look like they are, such that they theoretically would be faced with the same discrimination. For example, I had a Sri Lankan American friend who people regularly mistook for an African American -- some Sri Lankans have very dark skin and hair similar to people descended from Africans. For example, this man is Sri Lankan:

A-Veddah-man-from-Dambana.jpg


One of the two arguments for affirmative action would apply to such people, since they face individual racial discrimination the same way an African American would. Yet, for purposes of most affirmative action programs, they're "Asian," which means if anything affirmative action will work against them (since, for example, many universities effectively cap the number of people of Asian descent they'll accept).
 
Bigdog said:
" ... the results were enough for Taylor to update his birth certificate last November: It now says that he is black, Native American and Caucasian.

Taylor acknowledges that he looks white. But despite being “visually Caucasian,” as he puts it, he considers himself to be multiracial.

“I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.

The legal battle got its start in 2013. With the test results in hand, Taylor applied to get his insurance agency certified as a minority-owned business by Washington state’s Office of Minority and Women’s Business Enterprises. As the Seattle Times first reported, he was initially rejected on the grounds that he wasn’t visibly identifiable as a minority. ... "



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So?
 
“I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.
 
noise said:
“I’m a certified black man,” he told The Post. “I’m certified black in all 50 states. But the federal government doesn’t recognize me.”

After he was rejected from a program for minority business owners that would have given him an advantage when competing for lucrative government contracts, Taylor sued. His case, which raises complicated questions about how race is defined, is pending before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit.
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A DNA test could become a requirement to qualify for AA, depending on how this court case is decided.
 
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