TX schools will now teach that Civil War was all about slavery!!!

Threedee said:
Have you ever taken over your own property?
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The Feds began building Ft Sumter without ownership.. Its an interesting story and wasn't settled until 1841..

The Union blockade of Ft Sumter in the American Civil War was a naval strategy by the United States to prevent the Confederacy from trading.
 
kudzu said:
With the introduction of the cotton gin the number of slaves needed was declining.. and they were in fact becoming a burden for most planters.
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No that wasn’t a fact. The Southern States had only about half (or less) of their ariable under production leaving plenty of room for growth and from the invention of the cotton gin the price of cotton, and consequently slaves, continued to rise sharply until 1860 when they had both reached their highest price. Which is an irrefutable fact that demand for slaves in the South was high and still growing. If what you’re claiming was true the price of slaves would have dropped substantially. It did not.

Now by 1861 you could argue that slavery was in decline because by then the Civil War had started and the Civil War did end slavery.

The Lost Cause mythology that slavery was already dying in the South is the easiest one to refute as economic numbers don’t lie. The data proves conclusively that until the Civil War started slavery was not only prospering in the South it was growing with increased demand.
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
No that wasn’t a fact. The Southern States had only about half their land suitable for agriculture under production and from the invention of the cotton gin the price of cotton, and consequently slaves, continued to rise sharply until 1860 when they had both reached their highest price. Which is an irrefutable fact that demand for slaves in the South was highbrow and still growing. If what you’re claiming was true the price of slaves would have dropped substantially. It did not.

Now by 1861 you could argue that slavery was in decline because by then the Civil War had started and the Civil War did end slavery.

The Lost Cause mythology that slavery was already dying in the South is the easiest one to refute as economic numbers don’t lie. The data proves conclusively that until the Civil War started slavery was not only prospering in the South it was growing with increased demand.
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Slavery was in sharp decline in 1798.. and increased exponentially after the cotton Ginn, but according to some there soon was a surplus of slaves EXCEPT during time to pick cotton.
 
domer76 said:
It was a federal fort, you fucking moron. It didn't become a Confederate fort just because the treasonous southerners said so.

Fucking idiot
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It's not a union fort either just because the union says so. It was built with money collected from both the north and south and since it was on southern land, the south had the stronger claim. THINK
 
Nordberg said:
We fought to preserve the union. The south left over slavery. The southern states issued ArticlesSecession fleshing out their reasons. They were slavery and states rights. The right of a state to have slaves, they meant.
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Everyone agrees the south seceded mainly over slavery but that doesn't mean the war THAT CAME LATER was fought over slavery. The north should have let the south go. Lincoln wanted a war and he's the cause.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Woulda shoulda coulda but that isn’t what happened. It wasn’t Lincoln or the Union who fought to end slavery. It was The South that started the war to protect slavery. Ending slavery only became a war goal for the Union when it became apparent slavery had to be destroyed for the Union to win the war and preserve the Union. Lincoln always said, prior to the war, he would protect slavery where it currently existed and was protected by the Constitution.

When Lincoln issued his famous Emancipation Proclamation, he only ended slavery in states that were in rebellion against the law. Which he had a legal right to do. He did not nor could not legally end slavery in any of the States not rebelling as he had no legal authority to do so. That was accomplished via the Thirteenth Amendment.
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so lincoln did not want to end slavery but the south started the war for no other reason than for lincoln to not end slavery?

If slavery was the only issue then all the slave states in the north would be in the confederacy
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
It's not a union fort either just because the union says so. It was built with money collected from both the north and south and since it was on southern land, the south had the stronger claim. THINK
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It was built by the United States, dumbfuck. A FEDERAL fort.

The South had ZERO claim. They declared themselves something other than the United States, didn't they?

You idiots sound like the Freemen of Montana. Declared themselves free of any existing jurisdiction. Guess what, stupid fuck? It didn't work for them, either.

You are the stupidest motherfucker on this forum, pigfucker.
 
tsuke said:
so lincoln did not want to end slavery but the south started the war for no other reason than for lincoln to not end slavery?

If slavery was the only issue then all the slave states in the north would be in the confederacy
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They chose not to secede, dumbfuck. How many times does that have to be explained to you?
 
tsuke said:
then they chose to stay for other reasons aside from slavery?
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You can read for yourself as to why they remained. All being border states had a lot to do with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_states_(American_Civil_War)

However, the issue isn't who decided to remain in the Union and why, is it, Jethro? It's why those that left, did. And the answer, as has been explained to you multiple times, was SLAVERY.

How many times does the same thing have to be explained to you regarding secession?
 
“In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon the unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of the equality of all men, irrespective of race or color--a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of the Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and the negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States.”

Declaration of causes of secession Texas.gov

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