'When John McCain was my captive'

It's because he is still paying back the Karma for the torture.

This is so fricking weak. The same people who were all on about people even talking about Kerry and Viet Nam in other than a whispered awe of his awesome greatness are now trashing a vet who was tortured.

Obama's worst nightmare... is if his supporters start getting their message out.

Please Damo. You're partisan skirt is showing. I have the very distinct impression of you on Fullpolitics, questioning the veracity of Kerry's missions to cambodia, buying into some of the innuendo about how he got his medals, and enabling the swiftboater campaign with regard to "why doesn't kerry release his medical records".
 
Please Damo. You're partisan skirt is showing. I have the very distinct impression of you on Fullpolitics, questioning the veracity of Kerry's missions to cambodia, buying into some of the innuendo about how he got his medals, and enabling the swiftboater campaign with regard to "why doesn't kerry release his medical records".
I spent time suggesting that he should not be attacked for his service regardless. Although the "Christmas in Cambodia" stuff was total rubbish. Exaggeration takes nothing away from what he did.
 
Again, total rubbish.

McCain will benefit from any attack made on his service. I believe that Kerry did as well. I think crap like this will always backfire.

Again. This is exactly why Obama's team wants to control the message. I don't think they'll be able to.

Ohh quite right Damo, just as he did in 2000 when running against Bush.
 
Ohh quite right Damo, just as he did in 2000 when running against Bush.
This was never a reason why McCain lost to Bush, such suggestion is total hackery. Although I think the "push-polling" was definitely detrimental, it concerned his daughter not his service.
 
Again, total rubbish.

McCain will benefit from any attack made on his service. I believe that Kerry did as well. I think crap like this will always backfire.

Again. This is exactly why Obama's team wants to control the message. I don't think they'll be able to.

Your response is rubbish and you know less about McCain's military record than those who have investigated it know.

What part is rubbish .. that McCain collaborated with the VC .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he crashed five planes .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he graduated at the bottom of his class and got an assignment he didn't deserve .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he blocked legislation on discovering the truth behind POW's that may be left behind .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he has been the Vietnamese governments best friend in politics .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he blocks release of his own military record and blocks release of POW/MIA data and debriefings .. DOCUMENTED

McCain also claims he was going to be appointed as Admiral before he went to Vietnam .. another known lie.

So where's the rubbish?

By the way .. Obama doesn't have to touch this .. bloggers and the internet, the only investigative arm of the Fourth Estate we have left, will force the media to pay attention to it.
 
This was never a reason why McCain lost to Bush, such suggestion is total hackery. Although I think the "push-polling" was definitely detrimental, it concerned his daughter not his service.

Ohh of course it wasn't Bush won because people were so impressed with his brilliant humpbacked debating skills.

Ohh wait that was after the primary.
 
Ohh of course it wasn't Bush won because people were so impressed with his brilliant humpbacked debating skills.

Ohh wait that was after the primary.
It wasn't because of McCain's service. Show one ad from back then that attacks his service. Put up or shut up. If they existed, people like BAC would be using them now.
 
Please Damo. You're partisan skirt is showing. I have the very distinct impression of you on Fullpolitics, questioning the veracity of Kerry's missions to cambodia, buying into some of the innuendo about how he got his medals, and enabling the swiftboater campaign with regard to "why doesn't kerry release his medical records".

Why did I know Damo was a swiftboater?
 
Your response is rubbish and you know less about McCain's military record than those who have investigated it know.

What part is rubbish .. that McCain collaborated with the VC .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he crashed five planes .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he graduated at the bottom of his class and got an assignment he didn't deserve .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he blocked legislation on discovering the truth behind POW's that may be left behind .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he has been the Vietnamese governments best friend in politics .. DOCUMENTED

.. that he blocks release of his own military record and blocks release of POW/MIA data and debriefings .. DOCUMENTED

McCain also claims he was going to be appointed as Admiral before he went to Vietnam .. another known lie.

So where's the rubbish?

By the way .. Obama doesn't have to touch this .. bloggers and the internet, the only investigative arm of the Fourth Estate we have left, will force the media to pay attention to it.
Again,

I hope your message gets out load and clear, attacks on his service will backfire.

This is weak.
 
Why did I know Damo was a swiftboater?
Total BS. I was not a "swiftboater". I argued against their attacks because I believed that Kerry would gain support from attacking a veteran, just as I know McCain will.

The closest I got to it was saying he wasn't in Cambodia in Christmas, while agreeing his logs showed he was there in February.
 
It wasn't because of McCain's service. Show one ad from back then that attacks his service. Put up or shut up. If they existed, people like BAC would be using them now.

Perhaps you haven't noticed but I am using the Bush/Rove words in thier attack on McCain .. they even claimed he had a black child.

For you to need an ad to validate what planet earth is well aware of is quite telling sir.
 
Perhaps you haven't noticed but I am using the Bush/Rove words in thier attack on McCain .. they even claimed he had a black child.

For you to need an ad to validate what planet earth is well aware of is quite telling sir.
That was what the "push-poll" I mentioned was about (the 'black' child crap).

Yet you show not one ad? So, what I said was accurate? Thanks.

His service was not the reason he lost to Bush. I think he dropped out because of Cindy's drug use getting out...

I think it is disingenuous to suggest it was the service record that knocked him out of the race. Most people have never heard at all about the stuff you keep putting out there.

As I said, it will backfire and only harm those you seek to help.


I think it is modern politics being played, but it is not how your candidate wants to play it. I personally find it interesting how people who can be so upset over Kerry would actually use information from the same dude "against" McCain.
 
Again,

I hope your message gets out load and clear, attacks on his service will backfire.

This is weak.

Appreciate the honor .. but it ain't my message. There are lots of people saying it .. including some republicans and Ross Perot whgo took care of McCain's wife while he was captured and after she had an accident .. then McCain came home and swiftly dumped her.

Did I make that up too?
 
Appreciate the honor .. but it ain't my message. There are lots of people saying it .. including some republicans and Ross Perot whgo took care of McCain's wife while he was captured and after she had an accident .. then McCain came home and swiftly dumped her.

Did I make that up too?
Nope.

But I think the swiftboat dude makes stuff up, and repeating his stuff is just plain weak, and will work against the man you want to win. Just as I believe it worked against Bush. It's never good to attack a veteran on his service, I think it will always backfire, thankfully.
 
That was what the "push-poll" I mentioned was about (the 'black' child crap).

Yet you show not one ad? So, what I said was accurate? Thanks.

His service was not the reason he lost to Bush. I think he dropped out because of Cindy's drug use getting out...

I think it is disingenuous to suggest it was the service record that knocked him out of the race. Most people have never heard at all about the stuff you keep putting out there.

As I said, it will backfire and only harm those you seek to help.


I think it is modern politics being played, but it is not how your candidate wants to play it. I personally find it interesting how people who can be so upset over Kerry would actually use information from the same dude "against" McCain.

No, what you said was silly. "Show me an ad" is silly and doesn't confirm anything you've said. Show me an ad that suggested McCain had a black child. Obviously no ad doesn't mean a damn thing.

There doesn't have to be an ad, not then, not now, for the information to get dispersed and become effective.

I agree that many have not heard of the information .. all the more reason to put it out there.

And your admonition that this will backfire and help McCain .. it sure didn't help his ass when Bush and Rove attacked his record and it didn't prevent Bush and Rove from winning the election.
 
so a former prison torture guard at the Hanoi Hilton says that the Americans were lying about being tortured. This is a waste of time reading this when i could have been sharpening my pencil or organizing my post it notes.
 
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