Did he hit her? Kick her?
How do u take your phone back from someone that has it? Get on your knees and beg?
No, you act like a civilized adult and ask for it. You talk it out. There was zero reason to get physical.
Did he hit her? Kick her?
How do u take your phone back from someone that has it? Get on your knees and beg?
Go to the mall or somewhere take someones phone and see what happens to you...and get back with us
Yeah. I teach them to stand up for themselves and treat other people with respect. (Like NOT stealing other people's property)
(Do YOU teach YOUR daughters it's OK to steal?)
It takes two to tango and no one here knows what set off the incident yet folks want Baer thrown in jail.
Were you sober when you wrote all these comments?
I already said both parties behaved badly. She shouldn't have taken his phone. He shouldn't have pushed her to the ground, accidentally or not, while trying to retrieve it. What is this, elementary school?
You need to hold adults to a higher standard of behaviour.* Taking someone's phone doesn't automatically trigger the "might makes right" response. Nor does it rise to the level of "theft." This is a married couple, not two strangers.
Btw I scanned some comments and articles about this incident and nowhere did I see anyone calling for him to be jailed. Granted I couldn't search out at every single response. Why are you so triggered by what I wrote?
Christie: "I already said both parties behaved badly."
Jack: Only one party behaved 'badly', the Perpetrator.
Christie: "She shouldn't have taken his phone."
Jack: Thank you. We both agree on that.
Christie: "He shouldn't have pushed her to the ground, accidentally or not, while trying to retrieve it."
Jack: 1. He didn't "push her to the ground". 2. She should have voluntarily returned his phone.
Christie: "Taking someone's phone doesn't automatically trigger the "might makes right" response. Nor does it rise to the level of "theft."
Jack: She took his phone without permission ... and refused to return it ... what do you call that?
You're so outraged by the responses here that it makes me think you actually went through a similar situation.
Isn't that wonderful? You have one of the good ones. Gloat on...please do.
Don't blame others of us who weren't as fortunate and suffered through true ABUSE, some near death and know the damn difference between a possible a-hole type guy like this one possibly is and a guy who would have gone straight to the throat instead of a phone in an attempt to strangle her. Some of us got away by the skin of our teeth. So, forgive us if we don't freak out over a husband grabbing a phone out of the hand of a drama queen wife.
WOW guess you have never heard of road rage or shopping rage or parking lot rage!!!!!!! If someone is angry enough they will and often do attack the subject of their rage. So don't give me that bullshit.
Could you link to that? As of now I haven't found anyone calling for him to be jailed.
I see her with throwing an elbow to the crotch and throws a a kick to the rib cage, but I guess in Lib land its ok to throw an elbow to stop someone from getting "their" property back
Most abuse starts with verbal lashings, then a push, or grabbing, holes in walls or doors, then a pop in the mouth. The public displays aren’t usually as violent as the ones at home, unless there is alcohol or drugs involved. Women who have been abused usually find any aggressive act towards women cringe worthy because they know how it starts.It seems to me that if a person was previously abused, he or she would be on guard against any sudden angry moves from the other.
You don't know if the reason they were meeting in public was because she was afraid to bring it up at home where it would be just the two of them.
We can all speculate here yet none of us knows the real story of this couple's relationship.
christiefan said he should serve a couple/few days in jail
Where's the calls for jail time for this wife beater?
Christie: "I already said both parties behaved badly."
Jack: Only one party behaved 'badly', the Perpetrator.
Christie: "She shouldn't have taken his phone."
Jack: Thank you. We both agree on that.
Christie: "He shouldn't have pushed her to the ground, accidentally or not, while trying to retrieve it."
Jack: 1. He didn't "push her to the ground". 2. She should have voluntarily returned his phone.
Christie: "Taking someone's phone doesn't automatically trigger the "might makes right" response. Nor does it rise to the level of "theft."
Jack: She took his phone without permission ... and refused to return it ... what do you call that?
hahahaha ... no. I find it stunning that this woman is garnering ANY kind of support for STEALING.
IIRC you said yesterday he should be jailed for a couple of days and then the OP
Most abuse starts with verbal lashings, then a push, or grabbing, holes in walls or doors, then a pop in the mouth. The public displays aren’t usually as violent as the ones at home, unless there is alcohol or drugs involved. Women who have been abused usually find any aggressive act towards women cringe worthy because they know how it starts.
I paid attention to what the guy who filmed the incident said. Did you? He was there, we weren't.
"The man who shot the video did not wish to be identified, but told The San Francisco Chronicle he saw the couple having a “very emotional conversation” that lasted roughly 20 minutes before Pam Baer grabbed her husband’s cellphone.
“He knocks her down off her chair and gets on top of her and puts his hands on her,” the man told the Chronicle. “She was screaming for help. She seemed pretty terrified.”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/larry...b0e5e313cdd949
I'm sure if Baer reported this "theft" to the cops he'd be the laughingstock of SF.
I watched the Video. I didn't see 'Pam' grab the cellphone, but I'll take his word on that because that is what it looked like.
I DIDN'T see him 'knock her off her chair'. I saw the woman fall off her chair while attempting to keep the cellphone away from her husband.
I DIDN'T see him 'get on top of her'. I saw him reaching for his cellphone that he wanted back.
If by 'putting his hands on her', you mean grabbing her hand that held his cellphone, I DID see that.
Do you think instead of 'screaming for help', if she would have returned his cellphone she wouldn't need any 'help'?
Do you think if she hadn't took his cellphone in the first place, this entire incident would never have happened?