Where's the calls for jail time for this wife beater?

Were you sober when you wrote all these comments?

I already said both parties behaved badly. She shouldn't have taken his phone. He shouldn't have pushed her to the ground, accidentally or not, while trying to retrieve it. What is this, elementary school?

You need to hold adults to a higher standard of behaviour.* Taking someone's phone doesn't automatically trigger the "might makes right" response. Nor does it rise to the level of "theft." This is a married couple, not two strangers.

Btw I scanned some comments and articles about this incident and nowhere did I see anyone calling for him to be jailed. Granted I couldn't search out at every single response. Why are you so triggered by what I wrote?



Christie: "I already said both parties behaved badly."
Jack: Only one party behaved 'badly', the Perpetrator.

Christie: "She shouldn't have taken his phone."
Jack: Thank you. We both agree on that.

Christie: "He shouldn't have pushed her to the ground, accidentally or not, while trying to retrieve it."
Jack: 1. He didn't "push her to the ground". 2. She should have voluntarily returned his phone.

Christie: "Taking someone's phone doesn't automatically trigger the "might makes right" response. Nor does it rise to the level of "theft."
Jack: She took his phone without permission ... and refused to return it ... what do you call that?
 
Isn't that wonderful? You have one of the good ones. Gloat on...please do.
Don't blame others of us who weren't as fortunate and suffered through true ABUSE, some near death and know the damn difference between a possible a-hole type guy like this one possibly is and a guy who would have gone straight to the throat instead of a phone in an attempt to strangle her. Some of us got away by the skin of our teeth. So, forgive us if we don't freak out over a husband grabbing a phone out of the hand of a drama queen wife.

It seems to me that if a person was previously abused, he or she would be on guard against any sudden angry moves from the other.

You don't know if the reason they were meeting in public was because she was afraid to bring it up at home where it would be just the two of them.

We can all speculate here yet none of us knows the real story of this couple's relationship.
 
WOW guess you have never heard of road rage or shopping rage or parking lot rage!!!!!!! If someone is angry enough they will and often do attack the subject of their rage. So don't give me that bullshit.

Yes, the word "rage' says it all. People who have the kind of rage you mentioned above have anger management problems.
 
It seems to me that if a person was previously abused, he or she would be on guard against any sudden angry moves from the other.

You don't know if the reason they were meeting in public was because she was afraid to bring it up at home where it would be just the two of them.

We can all speculate here yet none of us knows the real story of this couple's relationship.
Most abuse starts with verbal lashings, then a push, or grabbing, holes in walls or doors, then a pop in the mouth. The public displays aren’t usually as violent as the ones at home, unless there is alcohol or drugs involved. Women who have been abused usually find any aggressive act towards women cringe worthy because they know how it starts.
 
christiefan said he should serve a couple/few days in jail

I'm only one person. I'd still like to see all these others calling for jailing.

Wonder why a lot of people on this thread are ignoring what the person who filmed this wrote: "The man who shot the video did not wish to be identified, but told The San Francisco Chronicle he saw the couple having a “very emotional conversation” that lasted roughly 20 minutes before Pam Baer grabbed her husband’s cellphone.

He knocks her down off her chair and gets on top of her and puts his hands on her,” the man told the Chronicle. “She was screaming for help. She seemed pretty terrified.”
 
Where's the calls for jail time for this wife beater?

Where's the one call, where are the two or more calls.

I get that you are proud to have no education, but you do not need to embed the message that you are uneducated and proud of it right into the title of a thread. The thread title says something about jail time and wife beating, but the biggest message is where you say "where's" instead of "where are." You are telling the world that you are ignorant and uneducated and you are using some narrative about wife beating to give you an excuse to show off how ignorant you are.

I see a lot of lefties posting in a way that shows how ignorant and uneducated they are, so this must be some kind of trend right now.
 
Christie: "I already said both parties behaved badly."
Jack: Only one party behaved 'badly', the Perpetrator.

Christie: "She shouldn't have taken his phone."
Jack: Thank you. We both agree on that.

Christie: "He shouldn't have pushed her to the ground, accidentally or not, while trying to retrieve it."
Jack: 1. He didn't "push her to the ground". 2. She should have voluntarily returned his phone.

Christie: "Taking someone's phone doesn't automatically trigger the "might makes right" response. Nor does it rise to the level of "theft."
Jack: She took his phone without permission ... and refused to return it ... what do you call that?

I paid attention to what the guy who filmed the incident said. Did you? He was there, we weren't.

"The man who shot the video did not wish to be identified, but told The San Francisco Chronicle he saw the couple having a “very emotional conversation” that lasted roughly 20 minutes before Pam Baer grabbed her husband’s cellphone.

He knocks her down off her chair and gets on top of her and puts his hands on her,” the man told the Chronicle. “She was screaming for help. She seemed pretty terrified.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/larry...b0e5e313cdd949
 
Most abuse starts with verbal lashings, then a push, or grabbing, holes in walls or doors, then a pop in the mouth. The public displays aren’t usually as violent as the ones at home, unless there is alcohol or drugs involved. Women who have been abused usually find any aggressive act towards women cringe worthy because they know how it starts.

You hear it all the time in stories told by abused people. They did something in public the other didn't like, then they paid for it when they got home.
 
I paid attention to what the guy who filmed the incident said. Did you? He was there, we weren't.

"The man who shot the video did not wish to be identified, but told The San Francisco Chronicle he saw the couple having a “very emotional conversation” that lasted roughly 20 minutes before Pam Baer grabbed her husband’s cellphone.

He knocks her down off her chair and gets on top of her and puts his hands on her,” the man told the Chronicle. “She was screaming for help. She seemed pretty terrified.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/larry...b0e5e313cdd949

I watched the Video. I didn't see 'Pam' grab the cellphone, but I'll take his word on that because that is what it looked like.
I DIDN'T see him 'knock her off her chair'. I saw the woman fall off her chair while attempting to keep the cellphone away from her husband.
I DIDN'T see him 'get on top of her'. I saw him reaching for his cellphone that he wanted back.
If by 'putting his hands on her', you mean grabbing her hand that held his cellphone, I DID see that.

Do you think instead of 'screaming for help', if she would have returned his cellphone she wouldn't need any 'help'?
Do you think if she hadn't took his cellphone in the first place, this entire incident would never have happened?
 
I watched the Video. I didn't see 'Pam' grab the cellphone, but I'll take his word on that because that is what it looked like.
I DIDN'T see him 'knock her off her chair'. I saw the woman fall off her chair while attempting to keep the cellphone away from her husband.
I DIDN'T see him 'get on top of her'. I saw him reaching for his cellphone that he wanted back.
If by 'putting his hands on her', you mean grabbing her hand that held his cellphone, I DID see that.

Do you think instead of 'screaming for help', if she would have returned his cellphone she wouldn't need any 'help'?
Do you think if she hadn't took his cellphone in the first place, this entire incident would never have happened?

Well if you didn't see Pam grab the cell phone then you're judging her based on what wasn't filmed.

The film starts at the point where it attracted attention from others and none of us know what happened before then. However, people who were actually there said they'd been arguing for a good while.

"Eye witnesses told the San Francisco Chronicle they saw the couple arguing for about 20 minutes in a public plaza before the incident, and added that Pamela seemed “seemed pretty terrified” afterward. They said Baer only calmed down after two bystanders intervened."
 
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