Notice how the right-wing Trumptards are all suddenly all on board with....

If Iran really, truly did it and they do it again, I think it's time to seriously consider a retaliatory strike.

If the world's oil supply gets disrupted, it could have serious economic implications.

I can't help but consider the possibility that the Israeli Mossad could be behind it.

They're good at that kind of thing.

Then let the Saudis do the retaliatory strike, not us. The gods know they've bought enough of our weapons systems over the years.
 
What if we strike Iran and they immediately retaliate by sinking one of our aircraft carriers, or even an entire carrier battle group? What if we hit Iran and China and or Russia intervene?

Take it down a notch.

Was that last comment directed at me?

First of all, the idea that Iran could come close to sinking even one of our carriers much less an entire battle group is laughable.

On the other hand, the possibility of Russia (probably not China) is a possibility, but that makes Trump's coziness with them look even more suspicious. Was this all part of the plan to begin with? Iran acting at the behest of Russia, drone strikes Saudi oil fields, Trump acting as a puppet of the Kremlin, retaliates unilaterally creating a conflict that ends somehow up in Russia's favor.

Not entirely implausible.

But what I suggested was that if it happens again, or more than once more, forming a coalition of nation's ala Desert Storm, not going it alone.
 
Exactly. Let the Saudis deal with it.

Whether we should or shouldn't retaliate should be up to the UN. The flow of oil is a necessary to all industrialized nations. The UN as the supposed world governing body is the group that should decide what actions to take.

I was listening to the radio the other day and this ME expert was saying that the Iranian people are just about fed up with the current regimen. He was saying that he thinks the regimen might be trying to goad the US into attacking so they can unify the people behind them against a common enemy. That makes sense why else would they attack a Saudi oil field?
 
Then let the Saudis do the retaliatory strike, not us. The gods know they've bought enough of our weapons systems over the years.

Short sighted and easy to say from the living room sofa.

If the world's oil supply gets interrupted, it's everybody's problem not just the Saudis.

Afaic, if these attacks continue, it's the responsibility of everyone including other democratic countries, to put a stop to it just like we booted Iraq out of Kuwait in 1991.
 
Whether we should or shouldn't retaliate should be up to the UN. The flow of oil is a necessary to all industrialized nations. The UN as the supposed world governing body is the group that should decide what actions to take.

I was listening to the radio the other day and this ME expert was saying that the Iranian people are just about fed up with the current regimen. He was saying that he thinks the regimen might be trying to goad the US into attacking so they can unify the people behind them against a common enemy. That makes sense why else would they attack a Saudi oil field?

Exactly.

Hadn't considered that motive, but it makes sense.

Good post.
 
and yet we've learned that the only reason people originally thought that a presidential candidate might be in the pocket of an unfriendly foreign power was a lie started by people within those intel agencies who were supporting a different presidential candidate...........in your mind does that perhaps say something about that "duty"?......

Of all the Trumptard zeros on this forum, you are one of the most brainlessly gullible.
 
Whether we should or shouldn't retaliate should be up to the UN. The flow of oil is a necessary to all industrialized nations. The UN as the supposed world governing body is the group that should decide what actions to take.

I was listening to the radio the other day and this ME expert was saying that the Iranian people are just about fed up with the current regimen. He was saying that he thinks the regimen might be trying to goad the US into attacking so they can unify the people behind them against a common enemy. That makes sense why else would they attack a Saudi oil field?

Assuming that they did, of course. The Yemeni rebels were claiming credit. We have spy satellites looking closely at that region 24/7/365. The evidence will be found there -- if we can trust our intelligence agencies not to lie about it. Can we?

I agree with you about the UN. I don't want us involved.
 
Short sighted and easy to say from the living room sofa.

If the world's oil supply gets interrupted, it's everybody's problem not just the Saudis.

Afaic, if these attacks continue, it's the responsibility of everyone including other democratic countries, to put a stop to it just like we booted Iraq out of Kuwait in 1991.

I like Eagle Eye's UN suggestion, don't you? I don't think we should be the world's cops.
 
I like Eagle Eye's UN suggestion, don't you? I don't think we should be the world's cops.

Absolutely.

And if you'll reread what I posted, I mentioned a coalition of democratic nations, which implies UN cooperation and approval. I also made the point that any action should only be considered after multiple attacks.

I am by no means in favor of the US acting unilaterally and in response to the one attack.
 
Assuming that they did, of course. The Yemeni rebels were claiming credit. We have spy satellites looking closely at that region 24/7/365. The evidence will be found there -- if we can trust our intelligence agencies not to lie about it. Can we?

I agree with you about the UN. I don't want us involved.

Before a Trump appointee was in charge, yes.

After a Trump appointee was put in charge, ??????.
 
ThatOwlWoman;3257615 We have spy satellites looking closely at that region 24/7/365. The evidence will be found there -- if we can trust our intelligence agencies not to lie about it. Can we?[/QUOTE said:
The problem is not that the intelligence agencies would lie about anything. The worry comes from the people who get that intel and how they spin it. I have less faith in the politicians than I do the worker bees that develop the intelligence. Remember the people who brief the president may or may not be trained intelligence officials. So X may not mark the spot after it goes thru two or three people.
 
The problem is not that the intelligence agencies would lie about anything. The worry comes from the people who get that intel and how they spin it. I have less faith in the politicians than I do the worker bees that develop the intelligence. Remember the people who brief the president may or may not be trained intelligence officials. So X may not mark the spot after it goes thru two or three people.

Exactly. And if you got war hawks in your administration, guess which way the intel is going to be spun? We already went through all this garbage when W was president. How many Americans and Iraqi civilians are now dead, and how many trillions lost that could have improved our citizens' lives?
 
Exactly. And if you got war hawks in your administration, guess which way the intel is going to be spun? We already went through all this garbage when W was president. How many Americans and Iraqi civilians are now dead, and how many trillions lost that could have improved our citizens' lives?

And the smartest thing Trump has done is fire Bolton. Hopefully the new guy will have a cooler head and keep Trump straight.
 
If Iran really, truly did it and they do it again, I think it's time to seriously consider a retaliatory strike.

If the world's oil supply gets disrupted, it could have serious economic implications.

I can't help but consider the possibility that the Israeli Mossad could be behind it.

They're good at that kind of thing.

What Iranian soft targets should the US hit in retaliation? Iranian Oil fields? You don't think that will disrupt the oil supply in the Mid-East?

It is looking more and more like the weapons used in the Saudi attack were Iranian, just based on their sophistication, accuracy, and success in their mission. The mission was to prove that Iran, with their expansive capability of Russian Weapons can do some major disruption to the flow of oil coming out of the Mid-east!

Not sure anyone should underestimate Iran's resolve to fight back, defend themselves, and demonstrate their ability to retaliate against heir neighbors and defend themselves from attack. They recently proved they could easily shoot down our million dollar military drones!

Iran once refused to deal with Jimmy Carter or have talks with him during the hostage crisis, and now it looks as if the Iranians do not want to have talks with Donald Trump's Administration. After all, Donald Trump is what knocked the wasp nest down by backing out of the Iranian World Treaty, stirred up the wasps, just to punk Obama and give his leg-humpers a hard-on and cheap thrill for doing it.

Now, looks as if the Iranians only want to deal with Democrats to resolve the new crisis deliberately brought about by the Trump Administration.

The Iranians are looking to wait Trump out, and looking forward to a newly elected Democrat leader in 2020 to negotiate with.

Putin will have to weigh his heavy fortune of selling arms to the Iranians, and see if that is worth losing, or helping Donald Trump win another election.

If, the US should attack Iran, THE LOVE Life he is enjoying with Donald Trump will turn into a lover scorned in a NEW YORK MINUTE!!

This is where Donald Trump and Putin, neither one, can have things both ways! Because Donald Trump and Putin have discovered a conflict of interest regarding IRAN.

It seems their bromance is in jeopardy! Because everything Donald Trump touches falls to shit- including the Iranian Deal. This has blown up in Putin's and Donald Trump's face!

Putin may very well turn on DOnald Trump- AND HELP THE DEMOCRATS GET ELECTED NEXT TIME! LOL!
 
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Of course you do.

When they suggested the very real possibility that the shit head you helped put in the WH and mindlessly support, might have close and illegal ties to The Kremlin, you had a giant problem with them.

It wasn't a real possibility. It was a typical day for Democrats.
 
every news media in the country......pay attention next time......

You're right, it's everywhere!

The National Enquirer has it all - how the Deep State planned to sink Trump by launching a fake collusion investigation, then leaking the story a week before the election. But they got mixed up and leaked some crap about Hillary instead. Those evil masterminds always make one little slip!


"Wait till you read this book, it blew me away!" - Sean Hannity.
But he came back. :mad:

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